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* In ''Manga/BlueExorcist'', the Okumura twins serve as this to their mutual crush Shiemi with the rough and lively Rin as the Veronica and the calm and polite Yukio as the Betty. However, as the story goes on, they begin to switch places as Rin matures and Yukio's inner darkness rises to the surface.
** To a lesser extent, Rin serves as the Archie to Shiemi's very sweet Betty and Izumo's haughty Veronica. However, Rin doesn't even realize that Izumo is crushing on him, and [[spoiler:Shiemi reveals that she isn't even interested in romance with anyone right now, feeling that she is too young for that.]]
4th Jun '17 10:30:37 PM mouschilight
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* In ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', there's a weird variation. Naruto, of course, is the Archie, who has a [[LovingAShadow one-sided shallow crush]] on Sakura (Veronica), who is a {{Tsundere}} towards him and [[SingleTargetSexuality has always been in love with Sasuke]]. Watching from afar is Hinata (Betty), who has admired Naruto since childhood and has been in love with him for years. The weirdness comes in when one brings up of social classes, where Hinata has the Veronica trait of being the heiress of the most illustrious clan in Konoha (probably the closest the village has to a princess barring Tsunade), while Naruto, for all of his childhood and most of Part I, was the village pariah -- socially speaking, a relationship between them would be unacceptable. This obstacle for any potential relationship between them was removed when Naruto became the village hero, and became gradually clear to the people of Konoha that he was the son of the Fourth Hokage. [[spoiler:The series ends with Naruto and Hinata as the OfficialCouple, while Sakura and Sasuke are the BetaCouple (since Sasuke reciprocates Sakura's feelings two years before [[Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie Naruto realized and reciprocated Hinata's love for him]])]].

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* In ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', there's a weird variation. Naruto, of course, is the Archie, who has a [[LovingAShadow one-sided shallow crush]] on Sakura (Veronica), who is a {{Tsundere}} towards him and [[SingleTargetSexuality has always been in love with Sasuke]]. Watching from afar is Hinata (Betty), who has admired Naruto since childhood and has been in love with him for years. The weirdness comes in when one brings up of social classes, where Hinata has the Veronica trait of being the heiress of the most illustrious clan in Konoha (probably the closest the village has to a princess barring Tsunade), while Naruto, for all of his childhood and most of Part I, was the village pariah -- socially speaking, a relationship between them would be unacceptable. This obstacle for any potential relationship between them was removed when Naruto became the village hero, and became gradually clear to the people of Konoha that he was the son of the Fourth Hokage. [[spoiler:The series ends with Naruto and Hinata as the OfficialCouple, while Sakura and Sasuke are the BetaCouple (since Sasuke reciprocates reciprocated Sakura's feelings two years before [[Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie Naruto realized realizes and reciprocated reciprocates Hinata's love for him]])]].
4th Jun '17 10:29:22 PM mouschilight
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* In ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', there's a weird variation. Naruto, of course is the Archie, who is attracted to Sakura (Veronica), who acts all {{Tsundere}} towards him and is in love with Sasuke. Watching from afar is Hinata (Betty), who has admired Naruto since childhood and has been in love with him for years. The weirdness comes in when one brings up of social classes, where Hinata has the Veronica trait of being the heiress of a major clan (probably the closest the village has to a princess barring Tsunade), while Naruto, for all of his childhood and most of Part I, was the village pariah -- socially speaking, a relationship between them would be unacceptable. This obstacle for any potential relationship between them was removed when Naruto became the village hero, and became gradually clear to the people of Konoha that he was the son of the Fourth Hokage. [[spoiler:The series ends with Naruto and Hinata as the OfficialCouple, while Sakura ends up with Sasuke.]]

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* In ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', there's a weird variation. Naruto, of course course, is the Archie, who is attracted to has a [[LovingAShadow one-sided shallow crush]] on Sakura (Veronica), who acts all is a {{Tsundere}} towards him and is [[SingleTargetSexuality has always been in love with Sasuke.Sasuke]]. Watching from afar is Hinata (Betty), who has admired Naruto since childhood and has been in love with him for years. The weirdness comes in when one brings up of social classes, where Hinata has the Veronica trait of being the heiress of a major the most illustrious clan in Konoha (probably the closest the village has to a princess barring Tsunade), while Naruto, for all of his childhood and most of Part I, was the village pariah -- socially speaking, a relationship between them would be unacceptable. This obstacle for any potential relationship between them was removed when Naruto became the village hero, and became gradually clear to the people of Konoha that he was the son of the Fourth Hokage. [[spoiler:The series ends with Naruto and Hinata as the OfficialCouple, while Sakura ends up with Sasuke.]]and Sasuke are the BetaCouple (since Sasuke reciprocates Sakura's feelings two years before [[Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie Naruto realized and reciprocated Hinata's love for him]])]].
11th Apr '17 8:47:17 AM GlitteringFlowers
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* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'': The kind and pacifist GirlNextDoor Orihime Inoue looks like a good Betty and the {{Tsundere}} Rukia seems to be a nice Veronica. Ichigo and Rukia are considered more than friends but less than lovers; on the other hand, Orihime already confessed her love for Ichigo but he wasn't conscious at the time to hear. Ichigo is more than willing to scale both Soul Society and Hueco Mundo in order to rescue both of them (in separate arcs) and has the 'other' help participate in the rescue: Orihime is the BarrierWarrior and healer in Soul Society who actually came up with the idea of rescuing Rukia, while Rukia recovers her ActionGirl credentials by the time the Hueco Mundo arc kicks in and joins Ichigo's quest for Orihime heartily. [[spoiler: It turns out that Rukia was TheNotLoveInterest to Ichigo and her romantic feelings [[ChildhoodFriendRomance were for her childhood friend Renji]] instead; Ichigo is seen HappilyMarried to Orihime.]]

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* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'': The kind and pacifist GirlNextDoor Orihime Inoue looks like a good Betty and the {{Tsundere}} Rukia seems to be a nice Veronica. Ichigo and Rukia are considered more than friends but less than lovers; very close friends; on the other hand, Orihime already confessed her love for Ichigo but he wasn't conscious at the time to hear. Ichigo is more than willing to scale both Soul Society and Hueco Mundo in order to rescue both of them (in separate arcs) and has the 'other' help participate in the rescue: Orihime is the BarrierWarrior and healer in Soul Society who actually came up with the idea of rescuing Rukia, while Rukia recovers her ActionGirl credentials by the time the Hueco Mundo arc kicks in and joins Ichigo's quest for Orihime heartily. [[spoiler: It turns out that ''there was never a LoveTriangle between them to start with'' Rukia was always TheNotLoveInterest [[PlatonicLifePartners to Ichigo Ichigo]] and her romantic feelings [[ChildhoodFriendRomance were for her childhood friend Renji]] instead; instead, whereas Ichigo is seen HappilyMarried to Orihime.and Orihime developed more and more ShipTease as time passed, and ultimately were HappilyMarried.]]
24th Feb '17 1:39:07 PM GlitteringFlowers
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* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'': The kind and pacifist GirlNextDoor Orihime Inoue looks like a good Betty and the {{Tsundere}} Rukia seems to be a nice Veronica. Ichigo and Rukia are considered more than friends but less than lovers; on the other hand, Orihime already confessed her love for Ichigo but he wasn't conscious at the time to hear. Ichigo is more than willing to scale both Soul Society and Hueco Mundo in order to rescue both of them (in separate arcs) and has the 'other' help participate in the rescue: Orihime is the BarrierWarrior and healer in Soul Society who actually came up with the idea of rescuing Rukia, while Rukia recovers her ActionGirl credentials by the time the Hueco Mundo arc kicks in and joins Ichigo's quest for Orihime heartily.

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* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'': The kind and pacifist GirlNextDoor Orihime Inoue looks like a good Betty and the {{Tsundere}} Rukia seems to be a nice Veronica. Ichigo and Rukia are considered more than friends but less than lovers; on the other hand, Orihime already confessed her love for Ichigo but he wasn't conscious at the time to hear. Ichigo is more than willing to scale both Soul Society and Hueco Mundo in order to rescue both of them (in separate arcs) and has the 'other' help participate in the rescue: Orihime is the BarrierWarrior and healer in Soul Society who actually came up with the idea of rescuing Rukia, while Rukia recovers her ActionGirl credentials by the time the Hueco Mundo arc kicks in and joins Ichigo's quest for Orihime heartily. [[spoiler: It turns out that Rukia was TheNotLoveInterest to Ichigo and her romantic feelings [[ChildhoodFriendRomance were for her childhood friend Renji]] instead; Ichigo is seen HappilyMarried to Orihime.]]



* In ''Manga/GokinjoMonogatari'', one of the main characters, [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Yuusuke]], is involved in a LoveTriangle with wild and [[HelloNurse sexy]] MsFanservice Mariko and his 'GirlNextDoor'-ish ExtremeDoormat classmate, Ayumi. Since this is a [[Manga/{{Nana}} Yazawa]] [[Manga/ParadiseKiss Ai]] manga, things [[{{Deconstruction}} don't quite look as stereotypical as they can be described]]...

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* In ''Manga/GokinjoMonogatari'', one of the main characters, [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Yuusuke]], is involved in a LoveTriangle with wild and [[HelloNurse sexy]] MsFanservice Mariko and his 'GirlNextDoor'-ish ExtremeDoormat classmate, Ayumi. Since this is a [[Manga/{{Nana}} Yazawa]] [[Manga/ParadiseKiss Ai]] manga, things [[{{Deconstruction}} [[BettyAndVeronicaSwitch don't quite look as stereotypical as they can be described]]...



** ''[[Anime/MobileFighterGGundam G Gundam]]'': Domon Kasshu's Archie is at one point stuck between Rain Mikamura's Betty and Allenby Beardsley's Veronica.

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** ''[[Anime/MobileFighterGGundam G Gundam]]'': Domon Kasshu's Archie is at one point stuck between Rain Mikamura's Betty and Allenby Beardsley's Veronica. [[spoiler: As his ChildhoodFriend and partner, Rain is victorious.]]



* ''Manga/KimagureOrangeRoad''. Kyosuke is torn between Hikaru (the ever-doting Betty) and Madoka (the WildChild Veronica).

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* ''Manga/KimagureOrangeRoad''. Kyosuke is torn between Hikaru (the ever-doting Betty) and Madoka (the WildChild Veronica). Both of them love him, with the added complication that Hikaru was Madoka's OnlyFriend. [[spoiler: Madoka is the one he chooses.]]



* ''Anime/MawaruPenguindrum'''s Kanba Takakura is kind of an an Archie, with [[BrotherSisterIncest his little sister]] [[TheCutie Himari]] as the Betty and [[spoiler:Masako Natsume]] as the Veronica.

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* ''Anime/MawaruPenguindrum'''s Kanba Takakura is kind of an an Archie, with [[BrotherSisterIncest his little sister]] [[TheCutie Himari]] as the Betty and [[spoiler:Masako Natsume]] as the Veronica. [[spoiler: It turns out Himari is adopted while Masako is Kanba's ''twin'' sister. And at the end, Kanba goes the RedemptionEqualsDeath way for Himari.]]



* ''Anime/{{Voltron}}'' has a male version. Boy Scout Keith (Betty) and Evil Prince Lotor (Veronica) both love Princess Allura. But Allura only loves Keith- so this may actually be a subversion. Some fans try to pair up Allura with the rebellious Lance (Veronica)- but in the canon anime and other series they show absolutely no interest whatsoever in each other.

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* ''Anime/{{Voltron}}'' has a male version. Boy Scout Keith (Betty) and Evil Prince Lotor (Veronica) both love Princess Allura. But Allura only loves Keith- so this may actually be a subversion. Some fans try to pair up Allura with the rebellious Lance (Veronica)- but in the canon anime and other series they show absolutely no romantic interest whatsoever in each other.
23rd Feb '17 4:21:12 PM Monsund
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** As shown in the image at the top of the page, Ranma is the Archie to Akane's Betty and Shampoo's Veronica. Although this being an UnwantedHarem situation, it's not so much about Ranma being torn about which one to choose (though he is attracted to both girls, he feels much more attracted to [[NoGuyWantsToBeChased Akane]]), but torn because he's engaged against his will to both women (Akane being an ArrangedMarriage, Shampoo an AccidentalMarriage) and rejecting one in favor of the other [[PillarsOfMoralCharacter would bring lots of trouble for the THREE of them]]. This triangle also includes a ThirdOptionLoveInterest, in the form of UnluckyChildhoodFriend and {{Bokukko}}, Ukyo Kuonji who is ALSO engaged to Ranma.

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** As shown in the image at the top of the page, Ranma is the Archie to Akane's Betty and Shampoo's Veronica. Although this being an UnwantedHarem situation, it's not so much about Ranma being torn about which one to choose (though he is attracted to both girls, he feels much more attracted to [[NoGuyWantsToBeChased Akane]]), but torn because he's engaged against his will to both women (Akane being an ArrangedMarriage, Shampoo an AccidentalMarriage) and rejecting one in favor of the other [[PillarsOfMoralCharacter would bring lots of trouble for the THREE of them]]. This triangle also includes a ThirdOptionLoveInterest, in the form of UnluckyChildhoodFriend [[ChildhoodFriendRomance childhood friend]] and {{Bokukko}}, Ukyo Kuonji who is ALSO engaged to Ranma.



** Kuno sees himself as an Archie in his delusions. Akane is the Betty to "the pigtailed girl" (female Ranma)'s Veronica. The fact that neither of them can stand him doesn't deter him at all.

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** Parodied with Tatewaki Kuno who sees himself as an Archie in his delusions. caught between a LoveTriangle between him, Akane, and the Pigtailed Girl. Akane is Betty, the Betty to "the girl he's known longer and has always been close at hand. "The pigtailed girl" (female Ranma)'s Veronica. The fact girl"([[LovesMyAlterEgo female Ranma]]) is Veronica, a mysterious beauty who disappears and reappears like the wind. Of course, Kuno [[SelectiveObliviousness doesn't seem to get]] that neither of them can stand him doesn't deter him at all.the two like him. An episode of the anime also had Kuno consider his [[VitriolicBestBuds vitriolic best bud]], Nabiki, as a ThirdOptionLoveInterest, ultimately leading to Kuno saying he'd MarryThemAll. Unsurprisingly Kuno was turned into ATwinkleInTheSky after say that.
22nd Nov '16 5:11:18 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' had Lynn Minmay as the Veronica and Misa Hayase as the Betty. Minmay herself had a similar case, with Hikaru as the Betty and Lynn Kaifunn as the Veronica.
** ''Anime/{{Macross 7}}'' had a gender-reversed version of the trope, with Gamlin as the Betty and Basara as the Veronica.

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** ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' had has IdolSinger Lynn Minmay as the Veronica and BridgeBunny Misa Hayase as the Betty. Minmay herself had has a similar case, with military pilot Hikaru as the Betty and manager/martial artist Lynn Kaifunn as the Veronica.
** ''Anime/{{Macross 7}}'' had a gender-reversed version of the trope, with dutiful military pilot Gamlin as the Betty Betty, and HotBlooded rock musician Basara as the Veronica.


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** ''Anime/MacrossDelta'' plays with this. Sweet-natured PluckyGirl Freyja Wion would ''at first'' seem like the Betty compared to older {{Tsundere}} Mirage Jenius, but the former is an IdolSinger with a fairly rambunctious personality, while the latter is a straight-laced military pilot.
7th Nov '16 12:26:40 AM mystery_kcad
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** Kuno sees himself as an Archie in his delusions. Akane is the Betty to "the pigtailed girl" (female Ranma)'s Veronica. The fact that neither of them can stand him doesn't deter him at all.
22nd Sep '16 5:08:30 PM Scabbard
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* The ''Manga/{{Hellsing}}'' anime has a twisted, 'sort of' affection triangle between Alucard, Integra Hellsing, and Seras Victoria that creates an animosity between the women. While Seras looks as the Veronica (being the one with sultry clothes and the newest addition to the Hellsing group) to Integra's Betty (long-standing bond with Alucard and with more tomboyish traits), personality and role wise could be switched: Integra's the Rich Veronica that has Alucard's affection while Reliable Betty Seras longs for it. [[WordOfGod Studio Gonzo]] claims that in the Anime, Alucard actually [[ReplacementGoldfish turned Seras because her eyes reminded him to Integra during her youth]], but he was mistaken. The manga averts this situation with an emphasis on a platonic bond between Alucard and Seras, but curiously adding LesYay subtext between Seras and Integra, and having Pip Bernadotte as Seras' LoveInterest.

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* The ''Manga/{{Hellsing}}'' anime has a twisted, 'sort of' affection triangle between Alucard, Integra Hellsing, and Seras Victoria that creates an animosity between the women. While Seras looks as the Veronica (being the one with sultry clothes and the newest addition to the Hellsing group) to Integra's Betty (long-standing bond with Alucard and with more tomboyish traits), personality and role wise could be switched: Integra's the Rich Veronica that has Alucard's affection while Reliable Betty Seras longs for it. [[WordOfGod Studio Gonzo]] claims that in the Anime, Alucard actually [[ReplacementGoldfish turned Seras because her eyes reminded him to of Integra during her youth]], but he was mistaken. The manga averts this situation with an emphasis on a platonic bond between Alucard and Seras, but curiously adding LesYay subtext between Seras and Integra, and having Pip Bernadotte as Seras' LoveInterest.
15th Sep '16 5:07:33 PM Lyner
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* In the manga Momokuri, a gender-inverted version occurswith [[spoiler:Shouta]] as the "Betty" to [[spoiler:Rihito]]'s "Veronica" for [[spoiler:Yuzuki]]'s "Archie. Both have loved her for years, and her own feelings remain extremely confused, with her asserting a deep love for [[spoiler:Rihito]] and a desire to always have him with her and unchanged, but it's also made clear that [[spoiler:Shouta]] is always the first one on her mind, and she can't even imagine him changing toward her or not being there at her side forever.

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* In the manga Momokuri, a gender-inverted version occurswith [[spoiler:Shouta]] as the "Betty" to [[spoiler:Rihito]]'s "Veronica" "Veronica"[[note]]not so erotic, fanservice-laden but still very rude and cold and possessing a sort of bad-boy feel[[/note]] for [[spoiler:Yuzuki]]'s "Archie. Both have loved her for years, and her own feelings remain extremely confused, with her asserting a deep love for [[spoiler:Rihito]] and a desire to always have him with her and unchanged, but it's also made clear that [[spoiler:Shouta]] is always the first one on her mind, and she can't even imagine him changing toward her or not being there at her side forever.
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