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22nd Nov '16 5:11:18 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' had Lynn Minmay as the Veronica and Misa Hayase as the Betty. Minmay herself had a similar case, with Hikaru as the Betty and Lynn Kaifunn as the Veronica.
** ''Anime/{{Macross 7}}'' had a gender-reversed version of the trope, with Gamlin as the Betty and Basara as the Veronica.

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** ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' had has IdolSinger Lynn Minmay as the Veronica and BridgeBunny Misa Hayase as the Betty. Minmay herself had has a similar case, with military pilot Hikaru as the Betty and manager/martial artist Lynn Kaifunn as the Veronica.
** ''Anime/{{Macross 7}}'' had a gender-reversed version of the trope, with dutiful military pilot Gamlin as the Betty Betty, and HotBlooded rock musician Basara as the Veronica.


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** ''Anime/MacrossDelta'' plays with this. Sweet-natured PluckyGirl Freyja Wion would ''at first'' seem like the Betty compared to older {{Tsundere}} Mirage Jenius, but the former is an IdolSinger with a fairly rambunctious personality, while the latter is a straight-laced military pilot.
7th Nov '16 12:26:40 AM mystery_kcad
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** Kuno sees himself as an Archie in his delusions. Akane is the Betty to "the pigtailed girl" (female Ranma)'s Veronica. The fact that neither of them can stand him doesn't deter him at all.
22nd Sep '16 5:08:30 PM Scabbard
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* The ''Manga/{{Hellsing}}'' anime has a twisted, 'sort of' affection triangle between Alucard, Integra Hellsing, and Seras Victoria that creates an animosity between the women. While Seras looks as the Veronica (being the one with sultry clothes and the newest addition to the Hellsing group) to Integra's Betty (long-standing bond with Alucard and with more tomboyish traits), personality and role wise could be switched: Integra's the Rich Veronica that has Alucard's affection while Reliable Betty Seras longs for it. [[WordOfGod Studio Gonzo]] claims that in the Anime, Alucard actually [[ReplacementGoldfish turned Seras because her eyes reminded him to Integra during her youth]], but he was mistaken. The manga averts this situation with an emphasis on a platonic bond between Alucard and Seras, but curiously adding LesYay subtext between Seras and Integra, and having Pip Bernadotte as Seras' LoveInterest.

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* The ''Manga/{{Hellsing}}'' anime has a twisted, 'sort of' affection triangle between Alucard, Integra Hellsing, and Seras Victoria that creates an animosity between the women. While Seras looks as the Veronica (being the one with sultry clothes and the newest addition to the Hellsing group) to Integra's Betty (long-standing bond with Alucard and with more tomboyish traits), personality and role wise could be switched: Integra's the Rich Veronica that has Alucard's affection while Reliable Betty Seras longs for it. [[WordOfGod Studio Gonzo]] claims that in the Anime, Alucard actually [[ReplacementGoldfish turned Seras because her eyes reminded him to of Integra during her youth]], but he was mistaken. The manga averts this situation with an emphasis on a platonic bond between Alucard and Seras, but curiously adding LesYay subtext between Seras and Integra, and having Pip Bernadotte as Seras' LoveInterest.
15th Sep '16 5:07:33 PM Lyner
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* In the manga Momokuri, a gender-inverted version occurswith [[spoiler:Shouta]] as the "Betty" to [[spoiler:Rihito]]'s "Veronica" for [[spoiler:Yuzuki]]'s "Archie. Both have loved her for years, and her own feelings remain extremely confused, with her asserting a deep love for [[spoiler:Rihito]] and a desire to always have him with her and unchanged, but it's also made clear that [[spoiler:Shouta]] is always the first one on her mind, and she can't even imagine him changing toward her or not being there at her side forever.

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* In the manga Momokuri, a gender-inverted version occurswith [[spoiler:Shouta]] as the "Betty" to [[spoiler:Rihito]]'s "Veronica" "Veronica"[[note]]not so erotic, fanservice-laden but still very rude and cold and possessing a sort of bad-boy feel[[/note]] for [[spoiler:Yuzuki]]'s "Archie. Both have loved her for years, and her own feelings remain extremely confused, with her asserting a deep love for [[spoiler:Rihito]] and a desire to always have him with her and unchanged, but it's also made clear that [[spoiler:Shouta]] is always the first one on her mind, and she can't even imagine him changing toward her or not being there at her side forever.
15th Sep '16 5:04:46 PM Lyner
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* In the manga Momokuri, a gender-inverted version occurswith [[spoiler:Shouta]] as the "Betty" to [[spoiler:Rihito]]'s "Veronica" for [[spoiler:Yuzuki]]'s "Archie. Both have loved her for years, and her own feelings remain extremely confused, with her asserting a deep love for [[spoiler:Rihito]] and a desire to always have him with her and unchanged, but it's also made clear that [[spoiler:Shouta]] is always the first one on her mind, and she can't even imagine him changing toward her or not being there at her side forever.
1st Jul '16 4:25:39 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** ''Anime/MacrossZero'' has Sara as the Veronica to her sister Mao's Betty.
22nd Jun '16 12:28:20 PM quackytrope
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* Manga/{{Beck}} has Koyuki as the Archie, his [[GirlNextDoor sweet]] childhood friend Izumi as the Betty, and the free-spirited and [[{{Tsundere}} slightly edgy]] Maho as the Veronica.

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* Manga/{{Beck}} has Koyuki as the Archie, his [[GirlNextDoor sweet]] childhood friend Izumi as the Betty, and the free-spirited and [[{{Tsundere}} slightly edgy]] {{Tsundere}} Maho as the Veronica.
8th May '16 12:16:16 PM Arcana4th
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* ''Manga/LovePistols'' had one during the summer trip to the Madarame household. Norio becomes the Archie to a cold, aggressive and increasingly distant Kunimasa(Veronica) and a caring, sweeter and openly in love with him Hidekuni(Betty).
29th Apr '16 12:40:47 PM Pichu-kun
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* In ''Manga/BokuraNoHentai'' Ryousuke's girlfriend Miki is the "Veronica" to Marika's "Betty". Ryousuke likes his girlfriend but harbors a crush on Marika that's hard to resist. [[spoiler:He eventually dumps Miki to confess to Marika.]]

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* In ''Manga/BokuraNoHentai'' Ryousuke's girlfriend Miki is the "Veronica" to Marika's "Betty". Ryousuke likes his girlfriend but harbors a crush on Marika that's hard to resist. [[spoiler:He eventually dumps Miki to confess to Marika.]]Marika but that goes nowhere.]] The DistantFinale has a MaybeEverAfter [[spoiler:for Ryousuke and Miki as adults]].
20th Apr '16 1:08:12 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** As does ''Anime/MacrossPlus'', where brash and rebellious Isamu is the Veronica, and serious and caring Guld seems to be a Betty. And then it puts everything on its head in TheReveal, because [[spoiler:Guld, a psychotic [[AttemptedRape would-be rapist]], is TheAtoner who got RedemptionEqualsDeath moment in the end]]; while [[spoiler:Isamu [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy wanted Myung to be happy]], and thus removed himself from the picture, becoming something of a DeathSeeker, but after Guld's RedemptionEqualsDeath he and Myung stay together.]].
** ''Anime/MacrossFrontier'' has Ranka as the Betty and Sheryl as the Veronica. In the second movie, The Wings of Goodbye: The End of the Triangle, it's resolved. [[spoiler: Alto apologizes to Ranka for being unable to return her feelings and declares his love to Sheryl before going Missing In Action. WordOfGod confirmes Alto comes back, Sheryl wakes up and relationship ensues]]

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** As does ''Anime/MacrossPlus'', where brash and rebellious Isamu is the Veronica, and serious and caring Guld seems to be a Betty. And then it puts everything on its head in TheReveal, because [[spoiler:Guld, while normally a nice guy, occasionally has random psychotic moments, and once he remembers that [[AttemptedRape would-be rapist]], is he attempted to rape Myung]] during one of those moments, it turns him into TheAtoner who got gets his RedemptionEqualsDeath moment in the end]]; while [[spoiler:Isamu actually [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy wanted Myung to be happy]], and thus removed himself from the picture, becoming something of a DeathSeeker, but after Guld's RedemptionEqualsDeath he and Myung stay together.]].
** ''Anime/MacrossFrontier'' has Ranka as the Betty and Sheryl as the Veronica. In the second movie, The ''The Wings of Goodbye: The End of the Triangle, Triangle'', it's resolved. [[spoiler: Alto [[spoiler:Alto apologizes to Ranka for being unable to return her feelings and declares his love to Sheryl before going Missing In Action. WordOfGod confirmes Alto comes back, Sheryl wakes up and their relationship ensues]]ensues]].
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