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5th Apr '16 11:12:41 AM Morgenthaler
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* In ''{{Wolverine}}: Origins'', Wolverine has a plan with ComicBook/{{Bucky|Barnes}}. The first part of the plan requires Bucky to hire a mercenary to attack Wolverine. Bucky hires everyone's favorite fourth-wall destroying, partially insane, [[{{Deadpool}} merc with a mouth]], because Bucky knows how he hates that everyone thinks he's a Wolverine knock-off -- so Deadpool will draw Wolverine into a very noticeable battle. Deadpool is also the only guy who could have a chance against Wolverine. Hence, the battle ensues, and eventually [[spoiler:Deadpool has Wolverine hanging above a secret pool so that he can drown him, which may take a long time. But then, Wolverine's son, {{ComicBook/Daken}}, shows up, Bucky shoots Daken with a special bullet that will dull his healing factor, keeping him knocked out for a long time, so Wolverine can un-brainwash him.]] It turns out, that was the entire point of everything. [[TheChewToy Deadpool did not get paid.]]

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* In ''{{Wolverine}}: ''ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}: Origins'', Wolverine has a plan with ComicBook/{{Bucky|Barnes}}. The first part of the plan requires Bucky to hire a mercenary to attack Wolverine. Bucky hires everyone's favorite fourth-wall destroying, partially insane, [[{{Deadpool}} merc with a mouth]], because Bucky knows how he hates that everyone thinks he's a Wolverine knock-off -- so Deadpool will draw Wolverine into a very noticeable battle. Deadpool is also the only guy who could have a chance against Wolverine. Hence, the battle ensues, and eventually [[spoiler:Deadpool has Wolverine hanging above a secret pool so that he can drown him, which may take a long time. But then, Wolverine's son, {{ComicBook/Daken}}, shows up, Bucky shoots Daken with a special bullet that will dull his healing factor, keeping him knocked out for a long time, so Wolverine can un-brainwash him.]] It turns out, that was the entire point of everything. [[TheChewToy Deadpool did not get paid.]]



* Done at least twice in ''SinCity'':

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* Done at least twice in ''SinCity'':''ComicBook/SinCity'':
14th Mar '16 7:27:43 AM LadyJaneGrey
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** [[http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1986/01/13 shows a elegantly simple Batman Gambit]].

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** Susie tricks Calvin [[http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1986/01/13 shows a with an elegantly simple Batman Gambit]].
14th Mar '16 7:26:06 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'' [[http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1986/01/13 shows a elegantly simple Batman Gambit]].

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* ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'' ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'':
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[[http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1986/01/13 shows a elegantly simple Batman Gambit]].Gambit]].
** [[http://assets.amuniversal.com/d52fdf68250b102d94d7001438c0f03b Susie pulls off a far-more complex one]] during a story arc in which Calvin steals Susie's "Binky Betsy" doll and holds it for ransom, demanding $100 for her return (via an "anonymous" note signed [[WhatAnIdiot "Sincerely, Calvin."]]) Susie puts an envelope by "the tree out front," as she was instructed to do, but hides behind the tree, out of Calvin's line of sight. Calvin sees the envelope and is overjoyed, thinking she caved and coughed up the money. However, just as Susie had planned, Calvin takes his eyes off of Hobbes for a few seconds to check the envelope, inside of which is no money, but a note that reads "Now we're even." Calvin is confused and has no idea what that means... until he turns to see [[{{Revenge}} Susie running off with Hobbes, whom SHE holds for ransom]]. Susie even comes out ahead, because in the ensuing [[PrisonerExchange toy exchange]], Susie gets both "Binky Betsy" ''and'' a quarter in exchange for Hobbes.
22nd Feb '16 4:47:05 PM LadyJaneGrey
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* A double subversion occurs in a ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} story from the [[TheSilverAgeOfComics Silver Age]]. Supergirl encounters Black Flame, a woman who seems to be a super-powered Kryptonian, in the process of some rather destructive vandalism. The villainess claims she's from the distant future of the year 4000, and "invites" Supergirl to view her time using a computerized exhibition device. It shows the heroine a terrible future where Black Flame extorts wealth from thousands of worlds (as in, she can blow them to little pieces if they don't comply). Worst part: she's Supergirl’s direct descendent, "Supergirl XXV", and the citizens of this distant future despise the first one just as much for starting this hated family line. Supergirl is naturally very upset, and after pursuing numerous leads (she senses something fishy here) decides to unearth a chuck of gold kryptonite, and use it to erase her own powers, eliminating the possibility she could pass them down to a descendant, in effect, making Black Flame RetGone. Then Black Flame appears with a cruel laugh, revealing her ''true'' identity, that of an assistant of a criminal from the bottle city of Kandor who was interred in the Phantom Zone. Black Flame had set up the plan out of revenge, leaving Kandor and using something called Red-K to increase her size, then pulled the ruse ''hoping Supergirl'' would depower herself, and now, after listening to her beg a little, shoves the heroine into a pit of quicksand and watches her drown. Or so she thinks. Black Flame gets a big surprise as the Red-K wears off, shrinking herself to normal size, because Supergirl figured the plan out, and was pulling her own BatmanGambit; now that she's shrunk, Supergirl grabs her, showing her the - fake - chuck of gold kryptonite and shoving her inside a make-up compact that holds a few minute grains of ''real'' gold kryptonite. As she ships the criminal back to Kandor, the last panel of the story shows the one flaw in Black Flame's plan - a cavity in her teeth with a dental filling that Supergirl noticed, something a superpowered descendant would not have,

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* A double subversion occurs in a ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} story from the [[TheSilverAgeOfComics [[TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]]. Supergirl encounters Black Flame, a woman who seems to be a super-powered Kryptonian, in the process of some rather destructive vandalism. The villainess claims she's from the distant future of the year 4000, and "invites" Supergirl to view her time using a computerized exhibition device. It shows the heroine a terrible future where Black Flame extorts wealth from thousands of worlds (as in, she can blow them to little pieces if they don't comply). Worst part: she's Supergirl’s direct descendent, "Supergirl XXV", and the citizens of this distant future despise the first one just as much for starting this hated family line. Supergirl is naturally very upset, and after pursuing numerous leads (she senses something fishy here) including visiting the bottled city of Kandor, and eventually decides to unearth a chuck of gold kryptonite, and use it to erase her own powers, eliminating the possibility she could pass them down to a descendant, in effect, making Black Flame RetGone. Then Black Flame appears with a cruel laugh, revealing her ''true'' identity, that of an assistant of a criminal from the bottle city of Kandor who was interred in the Phantom Zone. Black Flame had set up the plan out of revenge, leaving Kandor and using something called Red-K to increase her size, then pulled the ruse ''hoping Supergirl'' ''hoping'' Supergirl would depower herself, and now, after herself. After listening to the powerless heroine her beg a little, she shoves the heroine Supergirl into a pit of quicksand and watches her drown. Or so she thinks. it seems. [[spoiler: Black Flame gets a big surprise as the Red-K wears off, shrinking herself to normal size, because Supergirl actually figured the plan out, and was pulling [[OutGambit outgambitting her]] with her own BatmanGambit; now that she's shrunk, Supergirl grabs her, showing her the - fake - chuck of gold kryptonite and shoving her inside a make-up compact that holds a few minute grains of ''real'' gold kryptonite. As she ships the criminal back to Kandor, the last panel of the story shows the one flaw in Black Flame's plan - a cavity in her teeth with a dental filling that Supergirl noticed, noticed while investigating records in a Kandor dental clinic, something a superpowered descendant would not have,have,]]
22nd Feb '16 11:09:24 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* A double subversion occurs in a ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} story from the [[TheSilverAgeOfComics Silver Age]]. Supergirl encounters Black Flame, a woman who seems to be a super-powered Kryptonian, in the process of some rather destructive vandalism. The villainess claims she's from the distant future of the year 4000, and "invites" Supergirl to view her time using a computerized exhibition device. It shows the heroine a terrible future where Black Flame extorts wealth from thousands of worlds (as in, she can blow them to little pieces if they don't comply). Worst part: she's Supergirl’s direct descendent, "Supergirl XXV", and the citizens of this distant future despise the first one just as much for starting this hated family line. Supergirl is naturally very upset, and after pursuing numerous leads (she senses something fishy here) decides to unearth a chuck of gold kryptonite, and use it to erase her own powers, eliminating the possibility she could pass them down to a descendant, in effect, making Black Flame RetGone. Then Black Flame appears with a cruel laugh, revealing her ''true'' identity, that of an assistant of a criminal from the bottle city of Kandor who was interred in the Phantom Zone. Black Flame had set up the plan out of revenge, leaving Kandor and using something called Red-K to increase her size, then pulled the ruse ''hoping Supergirl'' would depower herself, and now, after listening to her beg a little, shoves the heroine into a pit of quicksand and watches her drown. Or so she thinks. Black Flame gets a big surprise as the Red-K wears off, shrinking herself to normal size, because Supergirl figured the plan out, and was pulling her own BatmanGambit; now that she's shrunk, Supergirl grabs her, showing her the - fake - chuck of gold kryptonite and shoving her inside a make-up compact that holds a few minute grains of ''real'' gold kryptonite. As she ships the criminal back to Kandor, the last panel of the story shows the one flaw in Black Flame's plan - a cavity in her teeth with a dental filling that Supergirl noticed, something a superpowered descendant would not have,
30th Dec '15 2:11:31 PM Anddrix
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* This is the kind of planning that allows SelfDemonstrating/LexLuthor, with no superpowers, to mop the floor with Superman nearly every time the two of them meet. (Until Supes eventually wins, of course.)

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* This is the kind of planning that allows SelfDemonstrating/LexLuthor, ComicBook/LexLuthor, with no superpowers, to mop the floor with Superman nearly every time the two of them meet. (Until Supes eventually wins, of course.)
29th Dec '15 8:12:50 AM Anddrix
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* If you know ''anything'' about [[SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom Victor Von Doom]], you can easily see why this trope could just as well be called ''The Doom Gambit''.

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* If you know ''anything'' about [[SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom Victor Von Doom]], Doom, you can easily see why this trope could just as well be called ''The Doom Gambit''.



* If you followed [[Comicbook/TheMightyThor Thor]] since ComicBook/AvengersDisassembled, and through Comicbook/DarkReign and Comicbook/{{Siege}}, and up until now, you probably already know this. If you didn't, [[http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=743153 read this]] and realize who the real orchestrator behind everything that happened was. [[spoiler:Loki]]. In short? [[spoiler:Loki was shown to ensure his own adoption by [[PhysicalGod Odin]], caused the last [[{{Gotterdammerung}} Ragnarok]], made sure Thor would revive all the gods, manipulated humans, gods, demons and [[SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom Doom]] to ensure he won't have an afterlife and that he would be reincarnated, caused [[ComicBook/NormanOsborn Osborn's]] downfall, made it possible for Asgard to exist without harming [[WorldTree Yggdrasil]], all with everyone around him being clueless.]] And the best part? No one has yet realized the magnitude of the plan that was executed or the reason behind it.

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* If you followed [[Comicbook/TheMightyThor Thor]] since ComicBook/AvengersDisassembled, and through Comicbook/DarkReign and Comicbook/{{Siege}}, and up until now, you probably already know this. If you didn't, [[http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=743153 read this]] and realize who the real orchestrator behind everything that happened was. [[spoiler:Loki]]. In short? [[spoiler:Loki was shown to ensure his own adoption by [[PhysicalGod Odin]], caused the last [[{{Gotterdammerung}} Ragnarok]], made sure Thor would revive all the gods, manipulated humans, gods, demons and [[SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom Doom]] Doom to ensure he won't have an afterlife and that he would be reincarnated, caused [[ComicBook/NormanOsborn Osborn's]] downfall, made it possible for Asgard to exist without harming [[WorldTree Yggdrasil]], all with everyone around him being clueless.]] And the best part? No one has yet realized the magnitude of the plan that was executed or the reason behind it.



* In a crossover with ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} and ComicBook/TheDefenders, the hero and team find themselves at the mercy of the Grandmaster and an old SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom robot called the Prime Mover and the Grandmaster is able to beat the Prime Mover and obtain the Earth. When he decides he wants to turn Earth into a breeding ground for super-powered pawns, Daredevil challenges him to a game of heads or tails, double or nothing, playing with the Grandmaster's addiction to gambling. Though Daredevil cheats to win, the entire plan hinged on Grandmaster accepting. ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}} would pull the same trick years later with even ''more'' blatant cheating.

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* In a crossover with ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} and ComicBook/TheDefenders, the hero and team find themselves at the mercy of the Grandmaster and an old SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom Doctor Doom robot called the Prime Mover and the Grandmaster is able to beat the Prime Mover and obtain the Earth. When he decides he wants to turn Earth into a breeding ground for super-powered pawns, Daredevil challenges him to a game of heads or tails, double or nothing, playing with the Grandmaster's addiction to gambling. Though Daredevil cheats to win, the entire plan hinged on Grandmaster accepting. ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}} would pull the same trick years later with even ''more'' blatant cheating.
19th Dec '15 4:25:46 PM Morgenthaler
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*** [[SugarWiki/MostTriumphantExample Most Triumphant Example]]: Triumph and Torment. The Agamotti are holding a sorcerer's tournament, DoctorDoom and Comicbook/DoctorStrange are among the participants. Whomever wins gets bequeathed power, the runner up? Gets owed a boon by the winner. Doom loses to Strange.[[ItGetsBetter This is the start of the story]]. Doom requests from Strange that he train him and help rescue his [[EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas mother's soul from]] [[BigRedDevil Mephisto]] which is trapped in his hell because of a DealWithTheDevil. Doom and Strange go to Mephisto's hell, Doom betrays Doctor Strange in exchange for his Mother's soul, she spurns him because of his evil deed, she [[TakenForGranite petrifies]], [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder Doom betrays Mephisto]], Doctor Strange frees Cynthia von Doom, her [[CareBearStare now redeemed soul burns Mephisto]], [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence and ascends to heaven]]. [[LikeABadassOutOfHell Doom and Strange get the hell out of dodge]]. [[PyrrhicVictory This is all according to plan]]. [[http://s52.beta.photobucket.com/user/Dutchtica/media/Scans/Insinuation0.jpg.html?sort=3&o=33 Doom sacrificed his mother's love for him in order to free her soul from Hell]]. [[http://s52.beta.photobucket.com/user/Dutchtica/media/Scans/Insinuation.jpg.html?sort=3&o=32 Strange is left bewildered, and wonders if this was Doom's plan from the get go.]]
13th Dec '15 10:11:04 AM LentilSandEater
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* In the 13-issue story "The Kindly Ones" from ''Comicbook/TheSandman'' series, Death calls Dream out on having orchestrated a Batman Gambit.
** What makes it even more amazing is that it's quite possible that he did it unconsciously.
*** As he is the embodiment of Story, it is only natural that [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy tropes would bend to his unconscious will]].
**** It's also worth noting that this gambit is a [[spoiler: suicide.]] It's also implied that only two others in existence realize what's happened: Puck [[spoiler: who says that he could discuss the subject "endlessly"]], and [[spoiler: Loki, who doesn't realize he's been played until it's too late for him.]]
* Interestingly enough, SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker, in his more serious interpretations, is immune to the Batman Gambit based simply on the fact that he is completely unpredictable.
** And moreover, that if he can be bothered, he's DangerouslyGenreSavvy enough to see through them.
** Worst of all is if Batman finds himself on the receiving end of a gambit orchestrated by the Joker, something writer Scott Snyder did heavily during the times he used the character in the New 52. After all, the Joker knows Batman just as well as the Bat knows him.

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* In the 13-issue story "The Kindly Ones" from ''Comicbook/TheSandman'' series, Death calls Dream out on having orchestrated a Batman Gambit.
** What makes it even more amazing is that it's quite possible that he did it unconsciously.
*** As he is the embodiment of Story, it is only natural that [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy tropes would bend to his unconscious will]].
**** It's also worth noting that this
Gambit. This gambit is a [[spoiler: suicide.]] It's also implied that only two others in existence realize what's happened: Puck [[spoiler: who says that he could discuss the subject "endlessly"]], and [[spoiler: Loki, who doesn't realize he's been played until it's too late for him.]]
* Interestingly enough, SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker, in his more serious interpretations, is immune to the Batman Gambit based simply on the fact that he is completely unpredictable.
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unpredictable. And moreover, that if he can be bothered, he's DangerouslyGenreSavvy enough to see through them.
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them. Worst of all is if Batman finds himself on the receiving end of a gambit orchestrated by the Joker, something writer Scott Snyder did heavily during the times he used the character in the New 52. After all, the Joker knows Batman just as well as the Bat knows him.
13th Dec '15 10:07:10 AM LentilSandEater
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* The [[Literature/HarryPotter Voldemort]]-like villain from the horror comic ''ComicBook/LockeAndKey''. So far, he's been manipulating pretty much '''everyone''' into his agenda.

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* %%* The [[Literature/HarryPotter Voldemort]]-like villain from the horror comic ''ComicBook/LockeAndKey''. So far, he's been manipulating pretty much '''everyone''' into his agenda.
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