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30th Dec '15 2:11:31 PM Anddrix
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* This is the kind of planning that allows SelfDemonstrating/LexLuthor, with no superpowers, to mop the floor with Superman nearly every time the two of them meet. (Until Supes eventually wins, of course.)
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* This is the kind of planning that allows SelfDemonstrating/LexLuthor, ComicBook/LexLuthor, with no superpowers, to mop the floor with Superman nearly every time the two of them meet. (Until Supes eventually wins, of course.)
29th Dec '15 8:12:50 AM Anddrix
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* If you know ''anything'' about [[SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom Victor Von Doom]], you can easily see why this trope could just as well be called ''The Doom Gambit''.
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* If you know ''anything'' about [[SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom Victor Von Doom]], Doom, you can easily see why this trope could just as well be called ''The Doom Gambit''.

* If you followed [[Comicbook/TheMightyThor Thor]] since ComicBook/AvengersDisassembled, and through Comicbook/DarkReign and Comicbook/{{Siege}}, and up until now, you probably already know this. If you didn't, [[http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=743153 read this]] and realize who the real orchestrator behind everything that happened was. [[spoiler:Loki]]. In short? [[spoiler:Loki was shown to ensure his own adoption by [[PhysicalGod Odin]], caused the last [[{{Gotterdammerung}} Ragnarok]], made sure Thor would revive all the gods, manipulated humans, gods, demons and [[SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom Doom]] to ensure he won't have an afterlife and that he would be reincarnated, caused [[ComicBook/NormanOsborn Osborn's]] downfall, made it possible for Asgard to exist without harming [[WorldTree Yggdrasil]], all with everyone around him being clueless.]] And the best part? No one has yet realized the magnitude of the plan that was executed or the reason behind it.
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* If you followed [[Comicbook/TheMightyThor Thor]] since ComicBook/AvengersDisassembled, and through Comicbook/DarkReign and Comicbook/{{Siege}}, and up until now, you probably already know this. If you didn't, [[http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=743153 read this]] and realize who the real orchestrator behind everything that happened was. [[spoiler:Loki]]. In short? [[spoiler:Loki was shown to ensure his own adoption by [[PhysicalGod Odin]], caused the last [[{{Gotterdammerung}} Ragnarok]], made sure Thor would revive all the gods, manipulated humans, gods, demons and [[SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom Doom]] Doom to ensure he won't have an afterlife and that he would be reincarnated, caused [[ComicBook/NormanOsborn Osborn's]] downfall, made it possible for Asgard to exist without harming [[WorldTree Yggdrasil]], all with everyone around him being clueless.]] And the best part? No one has yet realized the magnitude of the plan that was executed or the reason behind it.

* In a crossover with ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} and ComicBook/TheDefenders, the hero and team find themselves at the mercy of the Grandmaster and an old SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom robot called the Prime Mover and the Grandmaster is able to beat the Prime Mover and obtain the Earth. When he decides he wants to turn Earth into a breeding ground for super-powered pawns, Daredevil challenges him to a game of heads or tails, double or nothing, playing with the Grandmaster's addiction to gambling. Though Daredevil cheats to win, the entire plan hinged on Grandmaster accepting. ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}} would pull the same trick years later with even ''more'' blatant cheating.
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* In a crossover with ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} and ComicBook/TheDefenders, the hero and team find themselves at the mercy of the Grandmaster and an old SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom Doctor Doom robot called the Prime Mover and the Grandmaster is able to beat the Prime Mover and obtain the Earth. When he decides he wants to turn Earth into a breeding ground for super-powered pawns, Daredevil challenges him to a game of heads or tails, double or nothing, playing with the Grandmaster's addiction to gambling. Though Daredevil cheats to win, the entire plan hinged on Grandmaster accepting. ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}} would pull the same trick years later with even ''more'' blatant cheating.
19th Dec '15 4:25:46 PM Morgenthaler
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*** [[SugarWiki/MostTriumphantExample Most Triumphant Example]]: Triumph and Torment. The Agamotti are holding a sorcerer's tournament, DoctorDoom and Comicbook/DoctorStrange are among the participants. Whomever wins gets bequeathed power, the runner up? Gets owed a boon by the winner. Doom loses to Strange.[[ItGetsBetter This is the start of the story]]. Doom requests from Strange that he train him and help rescue his [[EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas mother's soul from]] [[BigRedDevil Mephisto]] which is trapped in his hell because of a DealWithTheDevil. Doom and Strange go to Mephisto's hell, Doom betrays Doctor Strange in exchange for his Mother's soul, she spurns him because of his evil deed, she [[TakenForGranite petrifies]], [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder Doom betrays Mephisto]], Doctor Strange frees Cynthia von Doom, her [[CareBearStare now redeemed soul burns Mephisto]], [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence and ascends to heaven]]. [[LikeABadassOutOfHell Doom and Strange get the hell out of dodge]]. [[PyrrhicVictory This is all according to plan]]. [[http://s52.beta.photobucket.com/user/Dutchtica/media/Scans/Insinuation0.jpg.html?sort=3&o=33 Doom sacrificed his mother's love for him in order to free her soul from Hell]]. [[http://s52.beta.photobucket.com/user/Dutchtica/media/Scans/Insinuation.jpg.html?sort=3&o=32 Strange is left bewildered, and wonders if this was Doom's plan from the get go.]]
13th Dec '15 10:11:04 AM LentilSandEater
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* In the 13-issue story "The Kindly Ones" from ''Comicbook/TheSandman'' series, Death calls Dream out on having orchestrated a Batman Gambit. ** What makes it even more amazing is that it's quite possible that he did it unconsciously. *** As he is the embodiment of Story, it is only natural that [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy tropes would bend to his unconscious will]]. **** It's also worth noting that this gambit is a [[spoiler: suicide.]] It's also implied that only two others in existence realize what's happened: Puck [[spoiler: who says that he could discuss the subject "endlessly"]], and [[spoiler: Loki, who doesn't realize he's been played until it's too late for him.]] * Interestingly enough, SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker, in his more serious interpretations, is immune to the Batman Gambit based simply on the fact that he is completely unpredictable. ** And moreover, that if he can be bothered, he's DangerouslyGenreSavvy enough to see through them. ** Worst of all is if Batman finds himself on the receiving end of a gambit orchestrated by the Joker, something writer Scott Snyder did heavily during the times he used the character in the New 52. After all, the Joker knows Batman just as well as the Bat knows him.
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* In the 13-issue story "The Kindly Ones" from ''Comicbook/TheSandman'' series, Death calls Dream out on having orchestrated a Batman Gambit. ** What makes it even more amazing is that it's quite possible that he did it unconsciously. *** As he is the embodiment of Story, it is only natural that [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy tropes would bend to his unconscious will]]. **** It's also worth noting that this Gambit. This gambit is a [[spoiler: suicide.]] It's also implied that only two others in existence realize what's happened: Puck [[spoiler: who says that he could discuss the subject "endlessly"]], and [[spoiler: Loki, who doesn't realize he's been played until it's too late for him.]] * Interestingly enough, SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker, in his more serious interpretations, is immune to the Batman Gambit based simply on the fact that he is completely unpredictable. ** unpredictable. And moreover, that if he can be bothered, he's DangerouslyGenreSavvy enough to see through them. ** them. Worst of all is if Batman finds himself on the receiving end of a gambit orchestrated by the Joker, something writer Scott Snyder did heavily during the times he used the character in the New 52. After all, the Joker knows Batman just as well as the Bat knows him.
13th Dec '15 10:07:10 AM LentilSandEater
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* The [[Literature/HarryPotter Voldemort]]-like villain from the horror comic ''ComicBook/LockeAndKey''. So far, he's been manipulating pretty much '''everyone''' into his agenda.
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* %%* The [[Literature/HarryPotter Voldemort]]-like villain from the horror comic ''ComicBook/LockeAndKey''. So far, he's been manipulating pretty much '''everyone''' into his agenda.
12th Nov '15 4:51:19 PM nombretomado
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* [[RobertCrumb Mr. Natural]] uses this on just about everyone, which makes them even madder when they realize how easily he's able to manipulate them.
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* [[RobertCrumb [[Creator/RobertCrumb Mr. Natural]] uses this on just about everyone, which makes them even madder when they realize how easily he's able to manipulate them.
2nd Nov '15 9:00:15 AM cdrood
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** Grandmaster is one of the Elders of the Universe, each is the last survivor of an ancient race that has adopt a particular [[Main/PlanetOfHats hat]] in order to have a focus survive the boredom of immortality. Likewise, the particular obsession can be used to turn the tables on them (e.g. threaten to start smashing The Collector's stuff).
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** Grandmaster is one of the Elders of the Universe, each is the last survivor of an ancient race that has adopt a particular [[Main/PlanetOfHats hat]] in order to have a focus and be ablet to survive the boredom of immortality. Likewise, the particular obsession can be used to turn the tables on them (e.g. threaten to start smashing The Collector's stuff).
2nd Nov '15 8:59:33 AM cdrood
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** Grandmaster is one of the Elders of the Universe, each is the last survivor of an ancient race that has adopt a particular [[Main/PlanetOfHats hat]] in order to have a focus survive the boredom of immortality. Likewise, the particular obsession can be used to turn the tables on them (e.g. threaten to start smashing The Collector's stuff).
18th Oct '15 4:26:54 AM Anddrix
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* During the ComicBook/{{Onslaught}} CrisisCrossover of the ''Comicbook/{{X-Men}}'' series, it was revealed that Professor X (like Batman) kept secret files on how to kill each X-Man in case they went rogue, including himself (which was good, since Onslaught was created from a combination of Xavier's and SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}}'s minds).
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* During the ComicBook/{{Onslaught}} CrisisCrossover of the ''Comicbook/{{X-Men}}'' series, it was revealed that Professor X (like Batman) kept secret files on how to kill each X-Man in case they went rogue, including himself (which was good, since Onslaught was created from a combination of Xavier's and SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}}'s ComicBook/{{Magneto}}'s minds).
14th Oct '15 4:53:14 AM MichaelKatsuro
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** The police know that the Phantom Blot will be leaving town from the harbour, the airport or the train station, but aren't sure which of the places he'll choose.
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** The police know that the Phantom Blot will be leaving town from either the harbour, the airport or the train station, but aren't sure which of the places he'll choose.
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