History BadassGrandpa / ComicBooks

7th Feb '17 11:42:05 PM narm00
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* The Shade, from ''Comicbook/{{Starman}}'', might count, though he's not a grandpa. He's over a hundred and seventy, looks like he's on his mid-forties, still dresses like it's the Victorian era, complete with cravat and spats. Oh, and he's [[spoiler:the world's best shadow channeler, capable of summoning shadow monsters by the imperial ton, and a very experienced assassin, both with his skills and with swords.]] Not enough? [[spoiler: He kicked a [[ComicBook/BlackestNight Black Lantern]]'s ass. After his heart was torn out. With that very same heart.]] Immortal he may be, but add in his incredible wit, his own occasional act of heroism (though if you call him hero, he'll pound you) and his impeccable sense of fashion and you've got yourself a man you'd hate to offend. And that's without his actual powers.

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* The Shade, from ''Comicbook/{{Starman}}'', might count, though he's not a grandpa. He's over a hundred and seventy, looks like he's on in his mid-forties, still dresses like it's the Victorian era, complete with cravat and spats. Oh, and he's [[spoiler:the world's best shadow channeler, capable of summoning shadow monsters by the imperial ton, and a very experienced assassin, both with his skills and with swords.]] Not enough? [[spoiler: He kicked a [[ComicBook/BlackestNight Black Lantern]]'s ass. After his heart was torn out. With that very same heart.]] Immortal he may be, but add in his incredible wit, his own occasional act of heroism (though if you call him hero, he'll pound you) and his impeccable sense of fashion and you've got yourself a man you'd hate to offend. And that's without his actual powers.



* [[ComicBook/TheFlash Jay Garrick]]. [[Franchise/GreenLantern Alan Scott]]. Wildcat. Any surviving member of the original ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica falls into this category. (ComicBook/{{Hawkman}} is an iffy case, considering that he's been reincarnated into a younger form.)

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* [[ComicBook/TheFlash [[Franchise/TheFlash Jay Garrick]]. [[Franchise/GreenLantern Alan Scott]]. Wildcat. Any surviving member of the original ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica falls into this category. (ComicBook/{{Hawkman}} is an iffy case, considering that he's been reincarnated into a younger form.)



** Ultimate Red Skull being [[spoiler: Cap's illegitimate son]] is in his 60s at least, but is A) in his physical prime and B) doesn't really have a ''face'' so it's difficult to judge.

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** Ultimate Red Skull Skull, being [[spoiler: Cap's illegitimate son]] son,]] is in his 60s at least, but is A) in his physical prime and B) doesn't really have a ''face'' so it's difficult to judge.



** James Gordon, who in his 70s could take down a teen that got a drop on him with a military grade machine gun. Hell, most other incarnations of Commisioner Gordon, despite being somewhay younger, could also count.

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** James Gordon, who in his 70s could take down a teen that got a drop on him with a military grade machine gun. Hell, most other incarnations of Commisioner Gordon, despite being somewhay somewhat younger, could also count.



** And a non-heroic example, SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker.
* Alfred Pennyworth, at [[BattleButler your]] [[ServileSnarker service]] (in most versions). Ex-SAS/British Secret Service, and the only member of the Bat-Family allowed to use a firearm (and he ''will'' use it if he has to).

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** And a non-heroic example, SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker.
ComicBook/TheJoker.
* ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'': Alfred Pennyworth, at [[BattleButler your]] [[ServileSnarker service]] (in most versions). Ex-SAS/British Secret Service, and the only member of the Bat-Family allowed to use a firearm (and he ''will'' use it if he has to).



*** [[spoiler:Thomas Wayne, Bruce's father]], as seen in ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'', in the alternate time where [[spoiler:Bruce died instead of his parents that night in Crime Alley.]] He must be at least 60 but he can still toss around criminals decades younger than him, and [[spoiler:kills Killer Croc ''and'' [[BigBad Reverse Flash]]. Each time by [[ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice impaling them]], no less. Yikes. ]]

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*** [[spoiler:Thomas Wayne, Bruce's father]], as seen in ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'', in the alternate time timeline where [[spoiler:Bruce died instead of his parents that night in Crime Alley.]] He must be at least 60 but he can still toss around criminals decades younger than him, and [[spoiler:kills Killer Croc ''and'' [[BigBad Reverse Flash]]. Each time by [[ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice impaling them]], no less. Yikes. ]]]]
*** [[spoiler:Similarly, Thomas]] in his tenure as Batman in ''ComicBook/Earth2''.



* Bor, the father of Odin and grandfather of ComicBook/TheMightyThor. He was at last as strong as combined powers of Thor and Odin and possibly could easily destroy the Earth. [[spoiler: When Thor has to kill him, he has to punch so hard, that his hammer was broken]].

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* Bor, the father of Odin and grandfather of ComicBook/TheMightyThor. He was at last least as strong as the combined powers of Thor and Odin and possibly could easily destroy the Earth. [[spoiler: When Thor has to kill him, he has to punch so hard, hard that his hammer was broken]].



** Jason Aaron's run introduced "King Thor", an aged Thor from a distant {{Bad Future}} where humanity and most Asgardians are long dead, Asgard itself is in ruins and the Earth is a lifeless dustball. He's weary, battle-scarred, and missing an arm and eye, but on the upside, he has the Odin-Force and a spectacular white {{Badass Beard}} (in fact modern-day Thor thinks he's Odin himself when they first meet), and he still takes on ''{{Galactus}}'' to stop the Devourer of Worlds finally feeding on what's left of Earth.
* Great-Uncle, really, but Aloysius Crumrin, relative of CourtneyCrumrin is at least over eighty and will still fuck up the nastiest hobgoblin ever (with a cane sword!) or fight off vampires threatening his great-niece. It's acknowledged fact that even at his age, he's still the one that gets called in to handle the nastiest business that threatens the witch and warlock community.

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** Jason Aaron's run introduced "King Thor", an aged Thor from a distant {{Bad Future}} where humanity and most Asgardians are long dead, Asgard itself is in ruins and the Earth is a lifeless dustball. He's weary, battle-scarred, and missing an arm and eye, but on the upside, he has the Odin-Force and a spectacular white {{Badass Beard}} (in fact modern-day Thor thinks he's Odin himself when they first meet), and he still takes on ''{{Galactus}}'' ''ComicBook/{{Galactus}}'' to stop the Devourer of Worlds finally feeding on what's left of Earth.
* Great-Uncle, really, but Aloysius Crumrin, relative of CourtneyCrumrin ComicBook/CourtneyCrumrin, is at least over eighty and will still fuck up the nastiest hobgoblin ever (with a cane sword!) or fight off vampires threatening his great-niece. It's acknowledged fact that even at his age, he's still the one that gets called in to handle the nastiest business that threatens the witch and warlock community.



* In ''ComicBook/StarWarsLegacy'', Treis Sinde, Imperial Knight. Infiltrating Dac, beating up a lot of Stormtroopers and squaring off against a Sith Lord, all in the Issue of his first appearance. Has also the rather un-Imperial tendency to reinterpret or openly defy orders from the Emperor if he believes it is the will of the Force. [[EvilOverlord Darth]] [[BigBad Krayt]] is also long over human expire date and you DON'T want to anger him. [[spoiler: The Mon Calamari learned that the hard way.]] His counterpart, deposed Emperor Roan Fel, does qualify too.

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* In ''ComicBook/StarWarsLegacy'', Treis Sinde, Imperial Knight. Infiltrating Dac, beating up a lot of Stormtroopers and squaring off against a Sith Lord, all in the Issue issue of his first appearance. Has also the rather un-Imperial tendency to reinterpret or openly defy orders from the Emperor if he believes it is the will of the Force. [[EvilOverlord Darth]] [[BigBad Krayt]] is also long over human expire expiry date and you DON'T want to anger him. [[spoiler: The Mon Calamari learned that the hard way.]] His counterpart, deposed Emperor Roan Fel, does qualify too.



* Slam Bradley, aging Hardboiled PrivateDetective who took a beating from Franchise/{{Batman}} and [[DeTerminator kept getting up for more.]]

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* Slam Bradley, aging Hardboiled PrivateDetective who took a beating from Franchise/{{Batman}} and [[DeTerminator [[{{Determinator}} kept getting up for more.]]



* ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}, the guy was born in the 1800s. His enemies Sabretooth and Cyber are also (evil) examples, as is his son {{ComicBook/Daken}}, who was born in 1946 and looks like he's in his 20's.

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* ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}, the guy who was born in the 1800s. His enemies Sabretooth and Cyber are also (evil) examples, as is his son {{ComicBook/Daken}}, who was born in 1946 and looks like he's in his 20's.



** The [[Comicbook/{{Venom}} Venom symbiote]] is one having lived a very long time, and he is also a Grandfather having a grandson.

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** The [[Comicbook/{{Venom}} Venom symbiote]] is one one, having lived a very long time, and he it is also a Grandfather grandparent, having a grandson.grandchild.



* [[ComicBook/{{Hellblazer}} John Constantine]] himself. He still kicks ass, even though he's almost sixty (although a transfusion of demon blood means that his aging is slowed somewhat), and his alcoholism and smoking hasn't lessened that much. Granted, his comic book is on par with real time, so he's gonna get a bigger badass with time. His best mate Chas Chandler is a good example too; he's about the same age as Constantine, has an actual granddaughter, and [[BadassNormal lacks]] his friend's magical acumen or demon blood, but he still acts as John's muscle when needed.

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* [[ComicBook/{{Hellblazer}} John Constantine]] himself. himself, in his Vertigo series, which ignored ComicBookTime. He still kicks kicked ass, even though he's he was almost sixty (although a transfusion of demon blood means meant that his aging is was slowed somewhat), and his alcoholism and smoking hasn't hadn't lessened that much. Granted, his comic book is on par with real time, so he's gonna get a bigger badass with time. His best mate Chas Chandler is was a good example too; he's he was about the same age as Constantine, has had an actual granddaughter, and [[BadassNormal lacks]] lacked]] his friend's magical acumen or demon blood, but he still acts acted as John's muscle when needed.



* ''ComicBook/FreedomFighters'' has CaptainPatriotic Uncle Sam, AnthropomorphicPersonification of the American Spirit and looking exactly as old as he does in those world war two recruitment posters. He's also participated in every war of the country's existence and is as strong as the American People's faith in freedom.

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* ''ComicBook/FreedomFighters'' has CaptainPatriotic Uncle Sam, AnthropomorphicPersonification of the American Spirit and looking exactly as old as he does in those world war two World War II recruitment posters. He's also participated in every war of the country's existence and is as strong as the American People's people's faith in freedom.freedom. (If you count his age from his origin, he's slightly older than the USA; if you count it from when he became [[TheNthDoctor Uncle Sam]], he dates from the 1870s, but either way he qualifies.)
** The Uncle Sam of Earth-10, as featured in ''ComicBook/TheMultiversity: Mastermen'', has twenty years on the main universe's, and managed to survive for eighty years in a world where the Nazis won World War II.



* ''ComicBook/{{Deathstroke}} the Terminator'', aka Slade Wilson. He's one of the only characters in the DC Universe whose bare fighting skills surpass Batman's. And he has no problems messing with heroes [[TeenTitans half his age]].

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* ''ComicBook/{{Deathstroke}} the Terminator'', aka Slade Wilson. He's one of the only characters in the DC Universe whose bare fighting skills surpass Batman's. And he has no problems messing with heroes [[TeenTitans [[ComicBook/TeenTitans half his age]].
14th Oct '16 8:51:47 AM smeg_head
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* The Maestro, the [[EvilCounterpart corrupted]] [[FutureMeScaresMe future]] counterpart of ''ComicBook/{{The Incredible Hulk}}'' survived not one, but TWO nuclear wars, and absorbing the fallout made him even ''stronger'' at his base level than the present day Hulk. At the point in his timeline when the Hulk is brought forward to take him out, the Maestro is well over 100 years old and still in his physical prime. With his greater strength and combat experience, plus his total lack of moral scruples, he thrashes his younger self ''twice'', winning the first battle by {{Neck Snap}}, and nearly winning the second with a good old-fashioned {{No Holds Barred Beatdown}} (the Hulk only won that round through luck and [[spoiler:creative use of a time machine.]]
** Another elderly version of the Hulk, from ''Hulk: The End''. He's the last surviving human after nuclear apocalypse killed everyone else on the planet. He's over ''200'' years old and has absolutely no intention of dying anytime soon, flesh-eating cockroaches and [[DeathSeeker puny Banner]] be damned...

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* The Maestro, the [[EvilCounterpart corrupted]] [[FutureMeScaresMe future]] counterpart of ''ComicBook/{{The Incredible Hulk}}'' survived not one, but TWO nuclear wars, and absorbing the fallout made him even ''stronger'' at his base level than the present day Hulk. At the point in his timeline when the Hulk is brought forward to take him out, the Maestro is well over 100 years old and still in his physical prime. With his greater strength and combat experience, plus his total lack of moral scruples, he thrashes his younger self ''twice'', winning the first battle by {{Neck Snap}}, and nearly winning the second with a good old-fashioned {{No Holds Barred Beatdown}} (the Hulk only won that round through luck and [[spoiler:creative use of a time machine.]]
machine]]. Worth noting that the Maestro is well over ''100 years old'' at the point in his timeline when the Hulk is brought forward to take him out.
** Another elderly version of the Hulk, from ''Hulk: The End''. He's the last surviving human after nuclear apocalypse killed everyone else on the planet. He's over ''200'' years old and has absolutely no intention of dying ''refuses'' to die anytime soon, flesh-eating cockroaches and [[DeathSeeker puny Banner]] be damned...
14th Oct '16 8:43:00 AM smeg_head
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* Alfred Pennyworth, at [[Battle Butler your]] [[ServileSnarker service]] (in most versions). Ex-SAS/British Secret Service, and the only member of the Bat-Family allowed to use a firearm (and he ''will'' use it if he has to).

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* Alfred Pennyworth, at [[Battle Butler [[BattleButler your]] [[ServileSnarker service]] (in most versions). Ex-SAS/British Secret Service, and the only member of the Bat-Family allowed to use a firearm (and he ''will'' use it if he has to).



*** [[spoiler:Thomas Wayne, Bruce's father]], as seen in ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'', in the alternate time where [[spoiler:Bruce died instead of his parents that night in Crime Alley.]] He must be at least 60 but he can still toss around criminals decades younger than him, and [[spoiler:kills not only Killer Croc, but also the [[BigBad Reverse Flash]]. By [[ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice impaling them]], no less. Yikes. ]]

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*** [[spoiler:Thomas Wayne, Bruce's father]], as seen in ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'', in the alternate time where [[spoiler:Bruce died instead of his parents that night in Crime Alley.]] He must be at least 60 but he can still toss around criminals decades younger than him, and [[spoiler:kills not only Killer Croc, but also the Croc ''and'' [[BigBad Reverse Flash]]. By Each time by [[ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice impaling them]], no less. Yikes. ]]



** Jason Aaron's run introduced "King Thor", an aged Thor from a distant {{Bad Future}} where humanity and most Asgardians are long dead, Asgard itself is in ruins and the Earth is a lifeless dustball. He's old, weary, and missing an arm and eye, but on the upside, he has the Odin-Force and a seriously awesome {{Badass Beard}} (in fact modern-day Thor mistook him for Odin himself when they first meet), and he still takes on ''{{Galactus}}'' to stop the Devourer of Worlds finally feeding on what's left of Earth.

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** Jason Aaron's run introduced "King Thor", an aged Thor from a distant {{Bad Future}} where humanity and most Asgardians are long dead, Asgard itself is in ruins and the Earth is a lifeless dustball. He's old, weary, battle-scarred, and missing an arm and eye, but on the upside, he has the Odin-Force and a seriously awesome spectacular white {{Badass Beard}} (in fact modern-day Thor mistook him for thinks he's Odin himself when they first meet), and he still takes on ''{{Galactus}}'' to stop the Devourer of Worlds finally feeding on what's left of Earth.



* The Maestro, the [[EvilCounterpart corrupted]] [[FutureMeScaresMe future]] counterpart of ''ComicBook/{{The Incredible Hulk}}'' definitely qualifies. He survived not one, but TWO nuclear wars, and absorbing the fallout made him even ''stronger'' at his base level than the present day Hulk. At the point in his timeline when the Hulk is brought forward to take him out, the Maestro is well over 100 years old and still in his physical prime. With his greater strength and combat experience, plus his total lack of moral scruples, he thrashes his younger self ''twice'', winning the first battle by {{Neck Snap}}, and nearly winning the second with a good old-fashioned {{No Holds Barred Beatdown}} (the Hulk only won that round through luck and [[spoiler:creative use of a time machine.]]
** Another elderly version of the Hulk, from ''Hulk: The End''. He's the last surviving member of the human race after nuclear apocalypse killed everyone else on the planet. He's over ''200'' years old and has absolutely no intention of dying anytime soon, flesh-eating cockroaches and [[DeathSeeker puny Banner]] be damned...

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* The Maestro, the [[EvilCounterpart corrupted]] [[FutureMeScaresMe future]] counterpart of ''ComicBook/{{The Incredible Hulk}}'' definitely qualifies. He survived not one, but TWO nuclear wars, and absorbing the fallout made him even ''stronger'' at his base level than the present day Hulk. At the point in his timeline when the Hulk is brought forward to take him out, the Maestro is well over 100 years old and still in his physical prime. With his greater strength and combat experience, plus his total lack of moral scruples, he thrashes his younger self ''twice'', winning the first battle by {{Neck Snap}}, and nearly winning the second with a good old-fashioned {{No Holds Barred Beatdown}} (the Hulk only won that round through luck and [[spoiler:creative use of a time machine.]]
** Another elderly version of the Hulk, from ''Hulk: The End''. He's the last surviving member of the human race after nuclear apocalypse killed everyone else on the planet. He's over ''200'' years old and has absolutely no intention of dying anytime soon, flesh-eating cockroaches and [[DeathSeeker puny Banner]] be damned...
14th Oct '16 8:36:06 AM smeg_head
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** Two more Batmen who meet this trope. The first is the Batman from ''ComicBook/KingdomCome'', who, despite having wrecked his body through years of abuse and being dependent on an exoskeleton just to move, still has the balls to deck [[spoiler:a brainwashed [[Comicbook/{{Shazam}} Billy Batson]], whom everyone else is [[TheDreaded shit-scared of]] ]] ''on a hunch''. He later joins in the climatic fight scene in {{Powered Armour}}. The other is [[spoiler:Thomas Wayne, Bruce's father]], as seen in ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'', in the alternate time where [[spoiler:Bruce died instead of his parents that night in Crime Alley.]] He has nowhere near [[spoiler:his son's]] training, skill, or discipline, and is running on pain and rage, but he can still toss around criminals decades younger than him, and [[spoiler:kills not only Killer Croc, but also the [[BigBad Reverse Flash]]. By [[ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice impaling them]], no less. Yikes. ]]
** The [[RetiredBadass Semi-Retired Badass]] Bruce Wayne from the various comicbook versions of ComicBook/BatmanBeyond.
*** Barbara Gordon would count as well in this universe.

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* Alfred Pennyworth, at [[Battle Butler your]] [[ServileSnarker service]] (in most versions). Ex-SAS/British Secret Service, and the only member of the Bat-Family allowed to use a firearm (and he ''will'' use it if he has to).
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The first is the Batman from ''ComicBook/KingdomCome'', who, despite having ''ComicBook/KingdomCome''. He's wrecked his body through years of abuse and being dependent depends on an exoskeleton just to move, but still has the balls to deck [[spoiler:a brainwashed [[Comicbook/{{Shazam}} Billy Batson]], whom everyone else is [[TheDreaded shit-scared of]] ]] ''on a hunch''. He later joins in the climatic fight scene in {{Powered Armour}}. The other is Armour}}.
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[[spoiler:Thomas Wayne, Bruce's father]], as seen in ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'', in the alternate time where [[spoiler:Bruce died instead of his parents that night in Crime Alley.]] He has nowhere near [[spoiler:his son's]] training, skill, or discipline, and is running on pain and rage, must be at least 60 but he can still toss around criminals decades younger than him, and [[spoiler:kills not only Killer Croc, but also the [[BigBad Reverse Flash]]. By [[ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice impaling them]], no less. Yikes. ]]
** *** The [[RetiredBadass Semi-Retired Badass]] Bruce Wayne from the various comicbook versions of ComicBook/BatmanBeyond.
*** ''Commissioner'' Barbara Gordon would count [[NeverMessWithGranny count]] as well in this universe.universe. She can still throw a Batarang like a pro.
*** Superman is still active in this universe and as powerful as ever, and looks to be in his [[OlderThanTheyLook 50's]] at most thanks to his Kryptonian physiology.



** Jason Aaron's run introduced "King Thor", an aged Thor from a distant {{Bad Future}} where humanity and most Asgardians are long dead, Asgard itself is in ruins and the Earth is a lifeless dustball. He's old, weary, and missing an arm and eye, but on the upside, he has the Odin-Force and a seriously awesome {{Badass Beard}} (in fact modern-day Thor mistook him for Odin himself when they first meet), and he still takes on ''{{Galactus}}'' to stop the Devourer of Worlds finally feeding on what's left of Earth.



* ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}, the guy was born in the 1800s. His enemies Sabretooth and Cyber are also (evil) examples, as is his son {{ComicBook/Daken}}, who was born in 1946 and looked to be in his 20's as of 2012.
* Also X-Men-related, ComicBook/{{Cable}} first [[TimeTravel came back]] to the present day as a grizzled 50-something, and must be around ''70'' by now, due to spending nearly 20 years on top of that in various futures raising his adopted daughter Hope. He's spent all that time fighting wars and against massively superpowered foes in various [[BadFuture horrible timezones]], relying mostly on his skills as a warrior, a survivalist, a tactician, and a strategist (plus his [[{{BFG}} really big guns]]) whilst at the same time using most of his nearly godlike telekinesis to stop the spread of what is essentially super-cancer (which he's had since he was an infant). On the occasions when he's able to to use his powers to their fullest extent, it's been shown that they are ''cosmic-level'' in scope, allowing him to go toe-to-toe with the ComicBook/SilverSurfer whilst simultaenously levitating an ''island''.
* ''Franchise/SpiderMan'' villain [[ComicBook/NormanOsborn The Green Goblin]] is around 60 years old now and actually has two grandsons to boot. His legacy character Hobgoblin is one as well, but only in ''ComicBook/SpiderGirl'' continuity.

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* ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}, the guy was born in the 1800s. His enemies Sabretooth and Cyber are also (evil) examples, as is his son {{ComicBook/Daken}}, who was born in 1946 and looked to be looks like he's in his 20's as of 2012.
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* Also X-Men-related, ComicBook/{{Cable}} first [[TimeTravel came back]] to the present day as a grizzled 50-something, and must be around ''70'' by now, due to spending nearly 20 years on top of that in various futures raising his adopted daughter Hope. He's spent all that time fighting wars and against massively superpowered foes in various [[BadFuture horrible timezones]], relying mostly on his skills as a warrior, a survivalist, a tactician, and a strategist (plus his [[{{BFG}} really big guns]]) whilst at the same time using most of his nearly godlike telekinesis to stop the spread of what is essentially super-cancer (which he's had since he was an infant). On the occasions when he's able to to he ''can'' use his powers to their fullest extent, full power, it's been shown that they are it's ''cosmic-level'' in scope, allowing him to go toe-to-toe with the ComicBook/SilverSurfer whilst simultaenously levitating an ''island''.
* ''Franchise/SpiderMan'' villain [[ComicBook/NormanOsborn The Green Goblin]] is around 60 years old now and actually has two grandsons to boot.is a literal grandfather. His legacy character Hobgoblin is one as well, but only in ''ComicBook/SpiderGirl'' continuity.



* The Maestro, the [[EvilCounterpart corrupted]] [[FutureMeScaresMe future]] counterpart of ''ComicBook/{{The Incredible Hulk}}'' definitely qualifies. He survived not one, but TWO nuclear wars, and absorbing the fallout made him even ''stronger'' at his base level than the present day Hulk. At the point in his timeline when the Hulk is brought forward to take him out, the Maestro is well over 100 years old and still in his physical prime despite his aged features. With his greater strength and combat experience, plus his total lack of moral scruples, the Maestro soundly thrashes his younger self ''twice'', winning the first battle by {{Neck Snap}}, and nearly winning the second with a good old-fashioned {{No Holds Barred Beatdown}}.

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* The Maestro, the [[EvilCounterpart corrupted]] [[FutureMeScaresMe future]] counterpart of ''ComicBook/{{The Incredible Hulk}}'' definitely qualifies. He survived not one, but TWO nuclear wars, and absorbing the fallout made him even ''stronger'' at his base level than the present day Hulk. At the point in his timeline when the Hulk is brought forward to take him out, the Maestro is well over 100 years old and still in his physical prime despite his aged features. prime. With his greater strength and combat experience, plus his total lack of moral scruples, the Maestro soundly he thrashes his younger self ''twice'', winning the first battle by {{Neck Snap}}, and nearly winning the second with a good old-fashioned {{No Holds Barred Beatdown}}.Beatdown}} (the Hulk only won that round through luck and [[spoiler:creative use of a time machine.]]



** Whatever else [[{{Jerkass}} you might say about him]], General Thaddeus "Thunderbolt" Ross has always been this, even before becoming the ComicBook/{{Red Hulk}}. For most of his history he was an [[BadassNormal unpowered human]] who had no problem leading his troops into battle against the Hulk personally, or telling off the Hulk to his face. Then he agreed to be merged with the [[ShockAndAwe electrical monster ZZZAX]] and gained superpowers so he could fight the Hulk directly, wound up [[HeroicSacrifice dying]] saving his [[PapaWolf daughter's life]], and then later came {{Back From The Dead}}. As Ross, he has the body of a man half his age and over 50 years' worth of experience as a soldier. As Red Hulk, he's among Marvel's top-tier superhumans (Bruce Banner once rated him as possibly "second only to me") [[spoiler:until the "Doc Green" Hulk forcibly depowers him]].

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** Whatever else [[{{Jerkass}} you might say about him]], General Thaddeus "Thunderbolt" Ross has always been this, even before becoming the ComicBook/{{Red Hulk}}. For most of his history he was an [[BadassNormal unpowered human]] who had no problem leading his troops into battle against the Hulk personally, or telling off the Hulk to his face.personally. Then he agreed to be merged with the [[ShockAndAwe electrical monster ZZZAX]] and gained superpowers so he could fight the Hulk directly, wound up [[HeroicSacrifice dying]] saving his [[PapaWolf daughter's life]], and then later came {{Back From The Dead}}. As Ross, he has the body of a man half his age and over 50 years' worth of experience as a soldier. As Red Hulk, he's among Marvel's top-tier superhumans (Bruce Banner once rated him as possibly "second only to me") [[spoiler:until the "Doc Green" Hulk forcibly depowers him]].me").
13th Sep '16 2:40:46 AM Morgenthaler
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* ComicBook/{{Blade}}, who was born in 1929, and, due to being a daywalker, hasn't really aged.

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* ComicBook/{{Blade}}, who was born in 1929, and, due to being a daywalker, hasn't really aged.aged.
* ''ComicBook/BlackMoonChronicles'': Emperor Haghendorf is already an old man by the time of the main storyline, but he remains as always a FourStarBadass who commands the imperial armies against all its enemies, has his personal brigade of war dragons, and is still one of the best swordsmen in the world. AuthorityEqualsAsskicking indeed.
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30th Jul '16 6:22:21 PM nombretomado
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* The Franchise/{{Superman}} from ComicBook/KingdomCome. He is out of shape, has grey hair, and wrinkles, but when he crossed over into the {{DCU}}, he takes a punch from Heracles ''without flinching'', and can move normally in a 100 G environment. Heracles earlier knocked our Superman through a building and bloodied his nose.

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* The Franchise/{{Superman}} from ComicBook/KingdomCome. He is out of shape, has grey hair, and wrinkles, but when he crossed over into the {{DCU}}, Franchise/TheDCU, he takes a punch from Heracles ''without flinching'', and can move normally in a 100 G environment. Heracles earlier knocked our Superman through a building and bloodied his nose.
8th Mar '16 12:11:46 AM Cuchulainn
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** Whatever else [[{{Jerkass}} you might say about him]], General Thaddeus "Thunderbolt" Ross has always been this, even before becoming the ComicBook/{{Red Hulk}}. For most of his history he was an [[BadassNormal unpowered human]] who had no problem leading his troops into battle against the Hulk personally, or telling off the Hulk to his face. Then he agreed to be merged with the [[ShockAndAwe electrical monster ZZZAX]] and gained superpowers so he could fight the Hulk directly, wound up [[HeroicSacrifice dying]] saving his [[PapaWolf daughter's life]], and then later came {{Back From The Dead}}. As Ross, he has the body of a man half his age and over 50 years' worth of experience as a soldier. As Red Hulk, he's among Marvel's top-tier superhumans (Bruce Banner once rated him as possibly "second only to me") [[spoiler:until the "Doc Green" Hulk forcibly depowers him]].

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** Whatever else [[{{Jerkass}} you might say about him]], General Thaddeus "Thunderbolt" Ross has always been this, even before becoming the ComicBook/{{Red Hulk}}. For most of his history he was an [[BadassNormal unpowered human]] who had no problem leading his troops into battle against the Hulk personally, or telling off the Hulk to his face. Then he agreed to be merged with the [[ShockAndAwe electrical monster ZZZAX]] and gained superpowers so he could fight the Hulk directly, wound up [[HeroicSacrifice dying]] saving his [[PapaWolf daughter's life]], and then later came {{Back From The Dead}}. As Ross, he has the body of a man half his age and over 50 years' worth of experience as a soldier. As Red Hulk, he's among Marvel's top-tier superhumans (Bruce Banner once rated him as possibly "second only to me") [[spoiler:until the "Doc Green" Hulk forcibly depowers him]].him]].
* ComicBook/{{Blade}}, who was born in 1929, and, due to being a daywalker, hasn't really aged.
29th Feb '16 6:13:17 PM Kurogane7
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*** Barbara Gordon would count as well in this universe.
24th Jan '16 7:37:15 PM Materioptikon
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** Two more Batmen who meet this trope. The first is the Batman from ''ComicBook/KingdomCome'', who, despite having wrecked his body through years of abuse and being dependent on an exoskeleton just to move, still has the balls to deck [[spoiler:a brainwashed [[Comicbook/{{Shazam}} Billy Batson]], whom everyone else is [[TheDreaded shit-scared of]] ]] ''on a hunch''. He later joins in the climatic fight scene in {{Powered Armour}}. The other is [[spoiler:Thomas Wayne, Bruce's father]], as seen in ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'', in the alternate time where [[spoiler:Bruce died instead of his parents that night in Crime Alley.]] He has nowhere near [[spoiler:his son's]] training, skill, or discipline, and is running on pain and rage, but he can still toss around criminals decades younger than him, and [[spoiler:kills not only Killer Croc, but also the [[BigBad Reserve Flash]]. By [[ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice impaling them]], no less. Yikes. ]]

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** Two more Batmen who meet this trope. The first is the Batman from ''ComicBook/KingdomCome'', who, despite having wrecked his body through years of abuse and being dependent on an exoskeleton just to move, still has the balls to deck [[spoiler:a brainwashed [[Comicbook/{{Shazam}} Billy Batson]], whom everyone else is [[TheDreaded shit-scared of]] ]] ''on a hunch''. He later joins in the climatic fight scene in {{Powered Armour}}. The other is [[spoiler:Thomas Wayne, Bruce's father]], as seen in ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'', in the alternate time where [[spoiler:Bruce died instead of his parents that night in Crime Alley.]] He has nowhere near [[spoiler:his son's]] training, skill, or discipline, and is running on pain and rage, but he can still toss around criminals decades younger than him, and [[spoiler:kills not only Killer Croc, but also the [[BigBad Reserve Reverse Flash]]. By [[ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice impaling them]], no less. Yikes. ]]
7th Dec '15 3:14:11 PM LBHills
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* ''ComicBook/{{Bone}}'' Lucius Down.

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* ''ComicBook/{{Bone}}'' ''ComicBook/{{Bone}}:'' Supporting character Lucius Down.Down, the aged innkeeper of the Barrelhaven, was once the captain of the royal guard. Outside the royal family, who have certain supernatural advantages, he's probably the toughest human character in the series.



** And then ''ComicBook/{{Nextwave}}'' gave us his parody CaptainErsatz Dirk Anger, who is a subversion in the WhoWantsToLiveForever vein:

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** And then ''ComicBook/{{Nextwave}}'' gave us his parody CaptainErsatz Dirk Anger, who is a subversion in the WhoWantsToLiveForever vein:
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