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19th Nov '16 8:53:59 PM Angeldeb82
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** Attempted in "Endgame" by [[spoiler: Captain Sheridan]], but averted at the last moment by [[spoiler: [[GunshipRescue General Lefcourt aboard EAS ''Apollo'']]].]]
** Also attempted by Sinclair at the [[HoldTheLine Battle of the Line]], averted when [[spoiler: [[LateArrivalSpoiler the Minbari disabled his ship]] [[AlienAbduction and took him prisoner.]]]]

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** Attempted in "Endgame" by [[spoiler: Captain Sheridan]], but averted at the last moment by [[spoiler: [[GunshipRescue General Lefcourt aboard EAS ''Apollo'']]].]]
EAS]] ''[[GunshipRescue Apollo]]'']].
** Also attempted by Sinclair at the [[HoldTheLine Battle of the Line]], averted when [[spoiler: [[LateArrivalSpoiler the Minbari disabled his ship]] [[AlienAbduction and took him prisoner.]]]]prisoner]]]].



* RecycledInSpace:

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* RedShirts: This role usually falls to the lurkers, though in classic sci-fi fashion, the Security guards tend to be fairly disposable unless named. That role shifts to the Starfury pilots for the space scenes, particularly for any pilot who is [[ImGoingForACloserLook Going In For A Closer Look]].
** In fact, Security Chief Garibaldi's name is a bit of a PunnyName based on this trope. He is named for Guisseppe Garibaldi, an Italian historical figure known for leading a band of soldiers known as... the Red Shirts.
** Lampshaded when the commander of a White Star (and by extension the entire ship's crew) gets this treatment:
-->'''Sheridan''' ''(about to order the ship into a suicide mission)'': "You aren't a married man, are you, Ericson?"



* {{Red Shirt}}s: This role usually falls to the lurkers, though in classic sci-fi fashion, the Security guards tend to be fairly disposable unless named. That role shifts to the Starfury pilots for the space scenes, particularly for any pilot who is [[ImGoingForACloserLook Going In For A Closer Look]].
** In fact, Security Chief Garibaldi's name is a bit of a PunnyName based on this trope. He is named for Guisseppe Garibaldi, an Italian historical figure known for leading a band of soldiers known as... the Red Shirts.
** Lampshaded when the commander of a White Star (and by extension the entire ship's crew) gets this treatment:
-->'''Sheridan''' ''(about to order the ship into a suicide mission)'': "You aren't a married man, are you, Ericson?"



* RestrainingBolt: Something that Mr. Bester installed in [[spoiler:Garibaldi's]] mind, to make sure his [[PuppeteerParasite puppet]] wouldn't attack him afterward. Bester calls it an "Asimov", a ShoutOut to Creator/IsaacAsimov and his ThreeLawsOfRobotics.

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* RestrainingBolt: Something that Mr. Bester installed in [[spoiler:Garibaldi's]] mind, to make sure his [[PuppeteerParasite puppet]] {{puppet|eerParasite}} wouldn't attack him afterward. Bester calls it an "Asimov", a ShoutOut to Creator/IsaacAsimov and his ThreeLawsOfRobotics.



** It only comes up on two occassions, but Garibaldi seems to have a habit of absent-mindedly abusing borrowed holy books.

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** It only comes up on two occassions, occasions, but Garibaldi seems to have a habit of absent-mindedly abusing borrowed holy books.



* SceneryGorn: The effects of [[spoiler:the Minbari Civil War and the Interstellar Alliance bombardment of Centauri Prime]] are depicted with devastated versions of those locations' [[StockFootage Stock]] {{Establishing Shot}}s.

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* SceneryGorn: The effects of [[spoiler:the Minbari Civil War and the Interstellar Alliance bombardment of Centauri Prime]] are depicted with devastated versions of those locations' [[StockFootage Stock]] {{Stock|Footage}} {{Establishing Shot}}s.



* ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight: several times, sometimes quite extravegantly as when Delenn broke the Grey council and Sheridan seceded from Earth .

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* ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight: several times, sometimes quite extravegantly extravagantly as when Delenn broke the Grey council and Sheridan seceded from Earth .



** Ivanova invites Corwin to her quarters to get to know him better. She asks him if he would follow orders, even if they went against the good of Earth. [[MyCountryRightOrWrong He says that he doesn't have the authority to make that kind of decision,]] and the heroes decide they can't bring him in on their conspiracy. [[spoiler: Later, when they are forced to break away from Earth, he decides to stay with them rather than return to Earth.]]

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** Ivanova invites Corwin to her quarters to get to know him better. She asks him if he would follow orders, even if they went against the good of Earth. [[MyCountryRightOrWrong He says that he doesn't have the authority to make that kind of decision,]] decision]], and the heroes decide they can't bring him in on their conspiracy. [[spoiler: Later, when they are forced to break away from Earth, he decides to stay with them rather than return to Earth.]]



'''''[[FelonyMisdemeanor Purple]].'''''

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'''''[[FelonyMisdemeanor Purple]].'''''Purple.]]'''''



** Garibaldi spends the break between Seasons 1 and 2 in a coma as the result of his injuries in ''Chrysalis''. When he wakes up in ''Revelations'', his first words are "[[WesternAnimation/BugsBunny What's up, Doc?]]", similar to {{Creator/MelBlanc}}'s first words after being put in a coma after a car accident.

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** Garibaldi spends the break between Seasons 1 and 2 in a coma as the result of his injuries in ''Chrysalis''. When he wakes up in ''Revelations'', his first words are "[[WesternAnimation/BugsBunny What's up, Doc?]]", similar to {{Creator/MelBlanc}}'s Creator/MelBlanc's first words after being put in a coma after a car accident.



** Leading to this [[CrowningMomentOfFunny hilarious]] exchange:

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** Leading to this [[CrowningMomentOfFunny [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments hilarious]] exchange:



* SoundtrackDissonance: Lord Refa is brutally (and deservedly) murdered to the sounds of a gospel chorus. Doubles as CrowningMusicOfAwesome.

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* SoundtrackDissonance: Lord Refa is brutally (and deservedly) murdered to the sounds of a gospel chorus. Doubles as CrowningMusicOfAwesome.SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic.



* SpaceIsAnOcean: Magnificiently averted. Sort of lampshaded/subverted with the Minbari Sharlin cruiser, which looks like a fish (However, one could argue that [[FromACertainpointOfView Hyperspace is an ocean]]). The Minbari also practice what they call "going to the sea", in which an elder spends their last days journeying into space, searching for a place where they can be of use.

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* SpaceIsAnOcean: Magnificiently averted. Sort of lampshaded/subverted with the Minbari Sharlin cruiser, which looks like a fish (However, one could argue that [[FromACertainpointOfView [[FromACertainPointOfView Hyperspace is an ocean]]). The Minbari also practice what they call "going to the sea", in which an elder spends their last days journeying into space, searching for a place where they can be of use.



** The Narn and the Centauri. [[spoiler: [[ThisMeansWar Until partway into the second season]].]]
* SpaceClothes: The Minbari have the best. [[CantArgueWithElves Of course]].

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** The Narn and the Centauri. [[spoiler: [[ThisMeansWar Until partway into the second season]].]]
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* SpaceClothes: The Minbari have the best. [[CantArgueWithElves Of course]].course.]]



** Londo has ''tons'' of spies. [[DeadlyDecadentCourt It's a Centauri thing]].

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** Londo has ''tons'' of spies. [[DeadlyDecadentCourt It's a Centauri thing]].thing.]]



** Sheridan has shades of this from time to time, especially in the second season, which introduced the [[LaResistance government counter-conspiracy]] against [[PresidentEvil President Clark.]]

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** Sheridan has shades of this from time to time, especially in the second season, which introduced the [[LaResistance government counter-conspiracy]] against [[PresidentEvil President Clark.]]Clark]].



** And in the DistantFinale, according to Word of God, the same thing may have happened [[spoiler: to Earth.]]

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** And in the DistantFinale, according to Word of God, the same thing may have happened [[spoiler: to Earth.]]Earth]].



* SummonBiggerFish: You think the Shadows can kick your ass? [[spoiler: Wait until the Vorlons decide that they're done tiptoeing around the younger races and bring out their ''Planet Killers!'']]. But wait! [[spoiler: Turns out the Shadows have ''a Planet Killer of their own''—they're ''just'' as big a fish as the Vorlons!]] So, with a galactic apocalypse coming down around their ears, what do the terrified and desperate younger races do? [[spoiler: they ''go and find ALL THE OTHER OLD ONES THEY CAN TO JOIN IN THE FIGHT!'']] Of course, by this stage they were so far beyond the GodzillaThreshold that Godzilla looked like a newborn puppy.

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* SummonBiggerFish: You think the Shadows can kick your ass? [[spoiler: Wait until the Vorlons decide that they're done tiptoeing around the younger races and bring out their ''Planet Killers!'']]. But wait! [[spoiler: Turns out the Shadows have ''a Planet Killer of their own''—they're ''just'' as big a fish as the Vorlons!]] So, with a galactic apocalypse coming down around their ears, what do the terrified and desperate younger races do? [[spoiler: they They ''go and find ALL THE OTHER OLD ONES THEY CAN TO JOIN IN THE FIGHT!'']] Of course, by this stage they were so far beyond the GodzillaThreshold that Godzilla looked like a newborn puppy.



* SuspiciouslySpecificDenial: Deliberately [[InvokedTrope invoked]] by Sheridan when he plants a news story that "Absolutely nothing happened today in Sector 85 by 9 by 12. Please remain calm." [[spoiler: He is telling ''almost'' the entire truth. Three White Stars, under his orders, ''did'' go to that sector and spend a little while shooting at nothing. Otherwise, absolutely nothing happened there.]]

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* SuspiciouslySpecificDenial: Deliberately [[InvokedTrope invoked]] {{invoked|Trope}} by Sheridan when he plants a news story that "Absolutely nothing happened today in Sector 85 by 9 by 12. Please remain calm." [[spoiler: He is telling ''almost'' the entire truth. Three White Stars, under his orders, ''did'' go to that sector and spend a little while shooting at nothing. Otherwise, absolutely nothing happened there.]]



* TheTell: Ivanova knows something is up when she sees Garibaldi "eating like a man starved", but she doesn't know him well enough to be sure there's a reason behind it. It turns out it is something Garibaldi does when faced with death (in this case, a ship full of colonists he came across who were killed by SpacePirates.)

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* TheTell: Ivanova knows something is up when she sees Garibaldi "eating like a man starved", but she doesn't know him well enough to be sure there's a reason behind it. It turns out it is something Garibaldi does when faced with death (in this case, a ship full of colonists he came across who were killed by SpacePirates.)SpacePirates).



** ''SOME'' are canon, others are disavowed. {{Word of God}} is that of the nine Dell books, # 7 is 90% canon and # 9 is 100% canon. The other seven books "[[CanonDiscontinuity strayed too far from canon]]".

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** ''SOME'' are canon, others are disavowed. {{Word of God}} WordOfGod is that of the nine Dell books, # 7 is 90% canon and # 9 is 100% canon. The other seven books "[[CanonDiscontinuity strayed too far from canon]]".



** The TropeNamer. Specifically Lyta Alexander and Sheridan. [[spoiler:To a lesser extent, telepaths (of all races) in general.]]
** An early episode features a character touched by the Psi Corps. Who then proceeds to [[spoiler:AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence and ''touch'' Talia Winters, but she [[AbsenteeActor left the series]] and was [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute substituted]] by Lyta before it got ''really'' spectacular]].

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** The TropeNamer.{{Trope Namer|s}}. Specifically Lyta Alexander and Sheridan. [[spoiler:To a lesser extent, telepaths (of all races) in general.]]
** An early episode features a character touched by the Psi Corps. Who then proceeds to [[spoiler:AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence and ''touch'' Talia Winters, but she [[AbsenteeActor left the series]] and was [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute substituted]] {{su|spiciouslySimilarSubstitute}}bstituted by Lyta before it got ''really'' spectacular]].



** The humans in turn point out that the only reason the ''Black Star'' got close enough for that to work was because they were homing in on the humans' distress signal so they could [[SinkTheLifeBoats destroy a helpless ship,]] which the humans ''knew'' that the Minbari would do.

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** The humans in turn point out that the only reason the ''Black Star'' got close enough for that to work was because they were homing in on the humans' distress signal so they could [[SinkTheLifeBoats destroy a helpless ship,]] ship]], which the humans ''knew'' that the Minbari would do.



** [[InvertedTrope Inverted]] in ''In The Shadow Of Z'Ha'Dum''. Garibaldi [[WhatTheHellHero resigns in protest]] when Sheridan refuses to release [[SmugSnake Mr. Morden]] when he can't charge him with a crime, but he ''knows'' he had to have something to do with the death of [[DeathByOriginStory Anna Sheridan]].

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** [[InvertedTrope Inverted]] {{Inverted|Trope}} in ''In The Shadow Of Z'Ha'Dum''. Garibaldi [[WhatTheHellHero resigns in protest]] when Sheridan refuses to release [[SmugSnake Mr. Morden]] when he can't charge him with a crime, but he ''knows'' he had to have something to do with the death of [[DeathByOriginStory Anna Sheridan]].



** In the second and third seasons, multiple such railroads are set up by various characters to help [[spoiler: Narn civilians]] escape the brutal occupation of their homeworld after their war with the [[spoiler: Centauri Republic.]]

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** In the second and third seasons, multiple such railroads are set up by various characters to help [[spoiler: Narn civilians]] escape the brutal occupation of their homeworld after their war with the [[spoiler: Centauri Republic.]]Republic]].



* [[{{UglyGuyHotWife}} Ugly Guy Hot Girlfriend]]: Londo may or may not be ugly by Centauri standards, but he's not terribly attractive by human standards, and so by ''Human'' standards, Adira is much better-looking than he is.

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* [[{{UglyGuyHotWife}} [[UglyGuyHotWife Ugly Guy Guy, Hot Girlfriend]]: Londo may or may not be ugly by Centauri standards, but he's not terribly attractive by human standards, and so by ''Human'' standards, Adira is much better-looking than he is.



** And there's Sheridan's exclamation of "Abso-fraggin-lutely!" Delenn repeats it in a later episode, in an inapppropriate but hilarious fashion.

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** And there's Sheridan's exclamation of "Abso-fraggin-lutely!" Delenn repeats it in a later episode, in an inapppropriate inappropriate but hilarious fashion.



* VestigialEmpire: The Centauri spend half their time invading the rest of the galaxy and the other half reminiscing about their glory days, back when -- one assumes -- they were even ''worse''. [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] with Londo's LightbulbJoke.

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* VestigialEmpire: The Centauri spend half their time invading the rest of the galaxy and the other half reminiscing about their glory days, back when -- one assumes -- they were even ''worse''. [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d with Londo's LightbulbJoke.



* VillainousCrossdresser: We find out after the fact that Cartagia was one.
2nd Oct '16 7:50:08 PM CaptainVideo
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* RasterVision: Occurs naturally on the VideoPhone CRT screens.
19th Aug '16 4:33:22 AM Morgenthaler
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* RecycledInSpace: Think ''Film/{{Casablanca}}'' in space, combined with Lovecraft in space, combined with Creator/JRRTolkien in space.
** The Babylon 5 Advisory Council and the League of Non-Aligned Worlds was [[InvokedTrope purposely designed]] to be the UnitedNations IN SPACE!

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* RecycledInSpace: RecycledInSpace:
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Think ''Film/{{Casablanca}}'' in space, combined with Lovecraft in space, combined with Creator/JRRTolkien in space.
** The Babylon 5 Advisory Council and the League of Non-Aligned Worlds was [[InvokedTrope purposely designed]] to be the UnitedNations UsefulNotes/UnitedNations IN SPACE!
6th Aug '16 2:48:50 PM morenohijazo
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* ScavengersAreScum: Averted. While the Pak'ma'ra come in for some FantasticRacism (in part because they smell bad from eating carrion), they're no more inherently good or evil than any other species, and join the Army of Light in the later seasons.
3rd Aug '16 5:22:27 AM longWriter
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* StopHelpingMe: [[invoked]] When Vir becomes the Centauri Ambassador to Minbar, Londo keeps offering him advice on how to phrase his reports, much to Vir's chagrin.
--> '''Londo:''' Say instead "They are a decadent people, interested only in the pursuit of...of dubious pleasures." The "dubious" part is very important. It doesn't mean anything, but it scares them every time.
** When Vir finally presents his report, he learns that the Centaurum would have preferred the original, more straightforward report that Vir had put together originally. Thankfully, they also realized that Vir [[ExecutiveMeddling wasn't responsible for the final content of the report]].


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* UnwantedAssistance: [[invoked]] When Vir becomes the Centauri Ambassador to Minbar, Londo keeps offering him advice on how to phrase his reports, much to Vir's chagrin.
--> '''Londo:''' Say instead "They are a decadent people, interested only in the pursuit of...of dubious pleasures." The "dubious" part is very important. It doesn't mean anything, but it scares them every time.
** When Vir finally presents his report, he learns that the Centaurum would have preferred the original, more straightforward report that Vir had put together originally. Thankfully, they also realized that Vir [[ExecutiveMeddling wasn't responsible for the final content of the report]].
27th Jul '16 10:25:05 AM Morgenthaler
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* {{Room 101}}: In "Intersections In Real Time" those who are tortured but prove to be unbreakable, unwilling to do as the Government says, are sent to Room 17. Unfortunately for those sent there, the interrogators are DangerouslyGenreSavvy. So what is behind that door is [[spoiler:a room with a chair for them to sit in. The same type of chair they sat in before. The stretcher they were brought in on becomes the table for a new interrogator to sit at and start the process all over again. What this room takes from you is not death, but hope of some form of escape from this place. It reveals there is no escape and no hope.]]

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* {{Room 101}}: In "Intersections In Real Time" those who are tortured but prove to be unbreakable, unwilling to do as the Government says, are sent to Room 17. Unfortunately for those sent there, the interrogators are DangerouslyGenreSavvy.very cunning. So what is behind that door is [[spoiler:a room with a chair for them to sit in. The same type of chair they sat in before. The stretcher they were brought in on becomes the table for a new interrogator to sit at and start the process all over again. What this room takes from you is not death, but hope of some form of escape from this place. It reveals there is no escape and no hope.]]
26th Jul '16 6:28:26 AM AFP
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* ShootTheBullet: For the most part, DeflectorShields do not exist in this setting. A common method of defending against incoming fire is to shoot it down using weapons known as Interceptors. Interceptors can be overwhelmed by [[MoreDakka sufficient weight of fire]], especially if they are also having to deal with enemy fighters (which are easy pickings for the Interceptors, but if not targeted, can destroy anti-ship weapons and other systems).
14th Jul '16 10:41:04 AM morenohijazo
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* SpecialEffectBranding: Ships from every power look far different from each other, and even their propulsion systems and weapons are different, making the species owning them readily identifiable once they're introduced.
29th Jun '16 4:58:19 AM passivesmoking
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** Lorien seems to hold this attitude towards the Shadows, who insist on making Z'Ha'Dum their capital because he happens to be there.
--> '''Lorien''': They think they are showing respect. They do not understand.



** Lorien seems to hold this attitude towards the Shadows, who insist on making Z'Ha'Dum their capital because he happens to be there.
--> '''Lorien''': They think they are showing respect. They do not understand.
29th Jun '16 4:57:41 AM passivesmoking
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** Lorien seems to hold this attitude towards the Shadows, who insist on making Z'Ha'Dum their capital because he happens to be there.
--> '''Lorien''': They think they are showing respect. They do not understand.
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