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2nd Sep '17 11:59:03 AM HalcyonDayz
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*** [[spoiler: It's also a moment for Otacon and his quirky design traits as a factor in REX's victory is a program he put in it for fun, a 'Street Fighter' program enabling full use of Rex's traits in a close combat. The designers of REX did not know about this at all and had actually vetoed the program's inclusion, believing that REX's systems were too delicate. Fast-forward to MGS4, where one special attack involves repeatedly ''headbutting'' RAY into a building. The other designers clearly didn't know what a beast they had created.]]

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*** [[spoiler: It's also a moment for Otacon and his quirky design traits as a factor in REX's victory is a program he put in it for fun, a 'Street Fighter' program enabling full use of Rex's traits in a close combat. The designers of REX did not know about this at all and had actually vetoed the program's inclusion, believing that REX's systems were too delicate. Fast-forward to MGS4, ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots'', where one special attack involves repeatedly ''headbutting'' RAY into a building. The other designers clearly didn't know what a beast they had created.]]
1st Sep '17 1:26:49 PM KingLyger
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* Metal Gear Solid 4, one word. [[spoiler:Raiden.]] It's sort of still being debated on what the Crowning Moment was, but later on, it seems to be a mix of [[spoiler:Breaking his own arm to get to his sword with his other hand so he could pull an Aron Ralston and cut it off so as to free it from a bunch of rubble...BEFORE stopping a umpteenhundredthousand ton SHIP...yes a SHIP...by himself]]. Or, perhaps it was [[spoiler:when he held off and brutally killed who knows how many FROGS, who were apparently terrified judging by the CG, while having NO ARMS, with nothing but his sword in his teeth and his feet.]] If these scenes, among with others unmentioned don't get his [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] title out of the way, nothing will.[[note]]Bar ''Videogame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance'' of course.[[/note]]
** "I am lightning. The rain transformed."

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* Metal Gear Solid 4, one word. [[spoiler:Raiden.]] It's sort of still being debated on what the Crowning Moment was, but later on, it seems to be a mix of [[spoiler:Breaking his own arm to get to his sword with his other hand so he could pull an Aron Ralston and cut it off so as to free it from a bunch of rubble...BEFORE stopping a umpteenhundredthousand ton SHIP...yes a SHIP...by himself]]. Or, perhaps it was [[spoiler:when he held off and brutally killed who knows how many FROGS, who were apparently terrified judging by the CG, while having NO ARMS, with nothing but his sword in his teeth and his feet.]] If these scenes, among with others unmentioned scenes don't get his [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] title [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap out of the way, way]], nothing will.[[note]]Bar ''Videogame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance'' of course.[[/note]]
** "I "[[PreAssKickingOneLiner I am lightning. The rain transformed.transformed]]."



* The [[spoiler:microwave corridor]] in Metal Gear Solid 4 is both this and a TearJerker, as [[spoiler:a weak and weary Snake struggles to cross a tunnel that blasts searing-hot microwave radiation, boiling his insides and causing his suit to explode and injure him during the process. He manages to eventually crawl to the end by sheer willpower and manliness alone, even when his Solid Eye optic explodes in his face, his Life bar being totally depleted and his Psyche draining at the same time. At the same time, you are shown all of Snake's allies fighting their respective battles, reminding you that you, as Snake, are their only hope for winning. All this whilst Otacon, through the Mk. III, is constantly pleading you to keep moving]].
* Either Snake vs. Ocelot battle in Metal Gear Solid 4. [[spoiler:Metal Gear on Metal Gear action at the end of Act 4 -- "Twin Suns"]] and [[spoiler:the epic, nostalgia-driven final fistfight [[ShoutOut shouting out]] to all three previous games' Snake vs. Liquid/Ocelot encounters]] were enough to make ManlyTears flow like rain.
** What bugs me is that no one mentioned the EPIC fight between [[spoiler:Metal Gear REX vs Metal Gear RAY in Act 4 and given it any real justice. What's wrong with piloting two of the strongest weapons in the world and pitting them against each other. Really, the CMOA belongs to REX, who beat down RAY minus the former's railgun and having a smashed radome - remember that RAY was originally meant to destroy REX, and yet the crippled REX ''won''.]]

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* The [[spoiler:microwave corridor]] in Metal Gear Solid 4 is both this and a TearJerker, as [[spoiler:a sequence just before the FinalBoss. [[spoiler:A weak and weary Snake struggles to cross a tunnel that blasts searing-hot microwave radiation, boiling his insides and causing his suit to explode and injure him during the process. He manages to eventually crawl to the end by sheer willpower and manliness alone, even when his Solid Eye optic explodes in his face, his Life bar being totally depleted and his Psyche draining at the same time. At the same time, you are shown all of Snake's allies fighting their respective battles, reminding you that you, as Snake, are their only hope for winning. All this whilst Otacon, through the Mk. III, is constantly pleading you to keep moving]].
* Either Snake vs. Ocelot battle in Metal Gear Solid 4.battle. [[spoiler:Metal Gear on Metal Gear action at the end of Act 4 -- "Twin Suns"]] and [[spoiler:the epic, nostalgia-driven final fistfight [[ShoutOut shouting out]] to all three previous games' Snake vs. Liquid/Ocelot encounters]] were enough to make ManlyTears flow like rain.
** What bugs me is that no one mentioned the EPIC The DuelBoss fight between [[spoiler:Metal Gear REX vs Metal Gear RAY in Act 4 4. Snake and given it any real justice. What's wrong with Ocelot piloting two of the strongest weapons in the world and pitting them against each other. Really, the CMOA belongs to REX, who beat down RAY minus the former's railgun and having a smashed radome - remember that RAY was originally meant to destroy REX, and yet the crippled REX ''won''.]]



*** [[spoiler:And if you think about it, the REX vs. RAY fight could also be a CMOA for the series' namesake in general: in all the years the games have been out - from the very first Metal Gear on the MSX to the most-current Peace Walker - this is the ''only'' time ''you,'' the player, get to jump into the cockpit of a Metal Gear and kick ass ''with'' it, not ''against'' it. And [[BestBossEver it does]] ''[[BestBossEver not]]'' [[BestBossEver disappoint.]]]]

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*** [[spoiler:And if you think about it, the REX vs. RAY fight could also be a CMOA for the series' namesake in general: in all the years the games have been out - from the very first Metal Gear on the MSX to the most-current Peace Walker - this is the ''only'' only time ''you,'' the player, get to jump into the cockpit of a Metal Gear and kick ass ''with'' it, not ''against'' it. And [[BestBossEver it does]] ''[[BestBossEver not]]'' [[BestBossEver does not disappoint.]]]]



** Let's not forget [[spoiler:During the final fistfight, Snake and Ocelot using their syringes to get back on their feet. First Snake. Then Ocelot. Then both of them at the same time. Then both of them injecting EACH OTHER. Some call it Narm, others consider it a CMOA.]]

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** Let's not forget [[spoiler:During the final fistfight, Snake and Ocelot using their syringes to get back on their feet. First Snake. Then Ocelot. Then both of them at the same time. Then both of them injecting EACH OTHER. Some call it Narm, others consider it a CMOA.]]
15th Jul '17 10:29:10 PM Sanokal
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* The performance of Patric Zimmerman. With incredible finesse and talent, he is able to mimic the speech patterns of Cam Clarke's Liquid Snake expertly, while balancing it out with his own Revolver Ocelot voice. The end result is enough to convince anybody that Ocelot is truly possessed by Liquid. which [[spoiler:was absolutely crucial to the game's story arc]]. Not only that, but the sheer quality of his acting is outstanding. It isn't much of a stretch to say that Patric Zimmerman gave the greatest performance of the series in Metal Gear Solid 4, and one of the best performances period in the history of video gaming.
* Metal Gear Solid 4, one word. [[spoiler:Raiden.]] It's sort of still being debated on what the Crowning Moment was, but later on, it seems to be a mix of [[spoiler:Breaking his own arm to get to his sword with his other hand so he could pull an Aron Ralston and cut it off so as to free it from a bunch of rubble...BEFORE stopping a umpteenhundredthousand ton SHIP...yes a SHIP...by himself]]. Or, perhaps it was [[spoiler:when he held off and brutally killed who knows how many FROGS, who were apparently terrified judging by the CG, while having NO ARMS, with nothing but his sword in his teeth and his feet.]] If these scenes, among with others unmentioned don't get his [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] title out of the way, nothing will.

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* The performance of Patric Zimmerman. With incredible finesse and talent, he is able to mimic the speech patterns of Cam Clarke's Liquid Snake expertly, while balancing it out with his own Revolver Ocelot voice. The end result is enough to convince anybody that Ocelot is truly possessed by Liquid. which [[spoiler:was absolutely crucial to the game's story arc]].arc]], and it's helped along by two more elements; Liquid Ocelot's body language (mainly the clenching right fist), and his style of dress; a sleeveless BadassLongcoat over a muscular torso and fingerless gloves, and sunglasses, both things that Revolver Ocelot is not associated with. Not only that, but the sheer quality of his acting is outstanding. It isn't much of a stretch to say that Patric Zimmerman gave the greatest performance of the series in Metal Gear Solid 4, and one of the best performances period in the history of video gaming.
gaming. It's especially impressive when one recalls how far his performance has come since the original.
* Metal Gear Solid 4, one word. [[spoiler:Raiden.]] It's sort of still being debated on what the Crowning Moment was, but later on, it seems to be a mix of [[spoiler:Breaking his own arm to get to his sword with his other hand so he could pull an Aron Ralston and cut it off so as to free it from a bunch of rubble...BEFORE stopping a umpteenhundredthousand ton SHIP...yes a SHIP...by himself]]. Or, perhaps it was [[spoiler:when he held off and brutally killed who knows how many FROGS, who were apparently terrified judging by the CG, while having NO ARMS, with nothing but his sword in his teeth and his feet.]] If these scenes, among with others unmentioned don't get his [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] title out of the way, nothing will.[[note]]Bar ''Videogame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance'' of course.[[/note]]



** At that point it would have been easy to think he'd end up as a limbless torso bouncing around, before finally just rolling along the floor as a head nipping soldiers ankles. The man just doesn't know how to give up.

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** At that point it would have been easy to think he'd end up as a limbless torso bouncing around, before finally just rolling along the floor as a head nipping soldiers soldier's ankles. The man just doesn't know how to give up.



*** [[spoiler: It's also a moment for Otacon and his quirky design traits as a factor in REX's victory is a program he put in it for fun, a 'Street Fighter' program enabling full use of Rex's traits in a close combat. The designers of Rex did not know about this at all and had actually vetoed the program's inclusion, believing that Rex's systems were too delicate. Fast-forward to MGS4, where one special attack involves repeatedly ''headbutting'' Ray into a building. The other designers clearly didn't know what a beast they had created.]]

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*** [[spoiler: It's also a moment for Otacon and his quirky design traits as a factor in REX's victory is a program he put in it for fun, a 'Street Fighter' program enabling full use of Rex's traits in a close combat. The designers of Rex REX did not know about this at all and had actually vetoed the program's inclusion, believing that Rex's REX's systems were too delicate. Fast-forward to MGS4, where one special attack involves repeatedly ''headbutting'' Ray RAY into a building. The other designers clearly didn't know what a beast they had created.]]
23rd Jun '17 3:36:27 PM TypeProton
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* In retrospect, playing through the entire series shows how Solid Snake is better than his predecessors. Big Boss and his allies, despite having an entire army at their disposal, chose to walk down a dark path that starts yet another cycle of destruction. Solid Snake instead chose to be ''genuinely'' good despite knowing that he is a mere pawn in the system who was massively outnumbered and manipulated at every turn. When he learned [[spoiler:he is about to become a walking bio-weapon]] in the ending of VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots, he chose to [[spoiler: [[HeroicSacrifice blow his own brain out with a pistol, in order to save the world despite how much shit it gave him]] before Big Boss interrupted]]. Solid may die cold and unremembered, but at least he understood the true importance of ''life'', and was willing to give away his own for the sake of billions without any compromise.

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* In retrospect, playing through the entire series shows how Solid Snake is better than his predecessors. Big Boss and his allies, despite having an entire army at their disposal, chose to walk down a dark path that starts yet another cycle of destruction. Solid Snake instead chose to be ''genuinely'' good despite knowing that he is a mere pawn in the system who was massively outnumbered and manipulated at every turn. When he learned [[spoiler:he is about to become a walking bio-weapon]] in the ending of VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots, he chose to [[spoiler: [[HeroicSacrifice blow his own brain out with a pistol, pistol in order to save the world world, despite how much shit it gave him]] him through all his time]] before Big Boss interrupted]]. Solid may die cold and unremembered, but at least he understood the true importance of ''life'', and was willing to give away his own for the sake of billions without any compromise.
23rd Jun '17 3:31:58 PM TypeProton
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* In retrospect, playing through the entire series shows how Solid Snake is better than his predecessors. Big Boss and his allies, despite having an entire army at their disposal, chose to walk down a dark path that starts yet another cycle of destruction. Solid Snake instead chose to be ''genuinely'' good despite knowing that he is a mere pawn in the system who was massively outnumbered and manipulated at every turn. When he learned [[spoiler:he is about to become a walking bio-weapon]] in the ending of VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots, he chose to [[spoiler: [[HeroicSacrifice blow his own brain out with a pistol]] before Big Boss interrupted him]] Solid may die cold and unremembered, but at least he understood the true importance of ''life'', and was willing to give away his own for the sake of billions without any compromise.

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* In retrospect, playing through the entire series shows how Solid Snake is better than his predecessors. Big Boss and his allies, despite having an entire army at their disposal, chose to walk down a dark path that starts yet another cycle of destruction. Solid Snake instead chose to be ''genuinely'' good despite knowing that he is a mere pawn in the system who was massively outnumbered and manipulated at every turn. When he learned [[spoiler:he is about to become a walking bio-weapon]] in the ending of VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots, he chose to [[spoiler: [[HeroicSacrifice blow his own brain out with a pistol]] pistol, in order to save the world despite how much shit it gave him]] before Big Boss interrupted him]] interrupted]]. Solid may die cold and unremembered, but at least he understood the true importance of ''life'', and was willing to give away his own for the sake of billions without any compromise.
23rd Jun '17 3:30:36 PM TypeProton
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* At the very end, [[spoiler:Big Boss, despite the FOXDIE ravaging his body, and barely being able to stand, saluting The Boss' gravestone one last time. His hand, his entire ''body'' trembles, but suddenly he goes still and '''snaps''' to attention in honour of the woman who defined not only his life, but perhaps the entire world as he and Snake knew it.]]

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* At the very end, [[spoiler:Big Boss, despite the FOXDIE ravaging his body, and barely being able to stand, saluting The Boss' gravestone one last time. His hand, his entire ''body'' trembles, but suddenly he goes still and '''snaps''' to attention in honour of the woman who defined not only his life, but perhaps the entire world as he and Snake knew it.]]]]
* In retrospect, playing through the entire series shows how Solid Snake is better than his predecessors. Big Boss and his allies, despite having an entire army at their disposal, chose to walk down a dark path that starts yet another cycle of destruction. Solid Snake instead chose to be ''genuinely'' good despite knowing that he is a mere pawn in the system who was massively outnumbered and manipulated at every turn. When he learned [[spoiler:he is about to become a walking bio-weapon]] in the ending of VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots, he chose to [[spoiler: [[HeroicSacrifice blow his own brain out with a pistol]] before Big Boss interrupted him]] Solid may die cold and unremembered, but at least he understood the true importance of ''life'', and was willing to give away his own for the sake of billions without any compromise.
4th Apr '17 11:26:58 PM Gamermaster
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** [[spoiler:Campbell]] also gets one for [[pretending to be Rose's husband]], knowing full well what doing so would do to his relationship with [[spoiler:his daughter, Meryl.]] Doubles as A Crowning Moment of Heartwarming, showing the lengths [[spoiler:Campbell]] was willing to take to protect Raiden and Raiden's family.
* In ''Guns of the Patriots,'' the Missouri's Marines are very awesome, if you think about what's actually going on here. By the final act, we know that many soldiers from non-Outer Heaven-owned PMCs as well as state militaries are deserting because of SOP withdrawal, and those are the ones who ''aren't'' so slammed with battlefield trauma they're permanently broken or suffering heart attacks. Thus, the Missouri's Marines [[FridgeLogic must all come from two groups]]; either combat veterans who are in the minority of those able to ''barely'' hang on without SOP, or total rookies who have ''never seen combat,'' let alone ''ever fired their weapon at an enemy'' since getting out of basic training. And they ''still do their job,'' holding the line long enough for Snake to get the job done despite being overwhelmed in numbers and firepower, by an enemy with more experience and the advantages of SOP, watching each other be gunned down by Haven troopers left and right. ''Semper Fi.''

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** [[spoiler:Campbell]] also gets one for [[pretending [[spoiler:pretending to be Rose's husband]], knowing full well what doing so would do to his relationship with [[spoiler:his daughter, Meryl.]] Doubles as A Crowning Moment of Heartwarming, a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming, showing the lengths [[spoiler:Campbell]] was willing to take to protect Raiden and Raiden's family.
* In ''Guns of the Patriots,'' the Missouri's Marines are very awesome, if you think about what's actually going on here. By the final act, we know that many soldiers from non-Outer Heaven-owned PMCs [=PMCs=] as well as state militaries are deserting because of SOP withdrawal, and those are the ones who ''aren't'' so slammed with battlefield trauma they're permanently broken or suffering heart attacks. Thus, the Missouri's Marines [[FridgeLogic must all come from two groups]]; either combat veterans who are in the minority of those able to ''barely'' hang on without SOP, or total rookies who have ''never seen combat,'' let alone ''ever fired their weapon at an enemy'' since getting out of basic training. And they ''still do their job,'' holding the line long enough for Snake to get the job done despite being overwhelmed in numbers and firepower, by an enemy with more experience and the advantages of SOP, watching each other be gunned down by Haven troopers left and right. ''Semper Fi.''
23rd Dec '16 1:31:45 PM HakkyounoTenshi
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** Otacon deserves his own mention here, both for designing and building a mech durable enough to be able to hop up and fight after being abandoned (and to the Alaskan elements no less) for nearly ten years AND the fact that it was able to [[spoiler: fight toe to toe]] with a mech technologically superior and ''designed'' to be able to combat mechs like REX after Otacon slaved in some extra processing power. And the fact that Otacon was able to do this with a few presses of a button...
19th Oct '16 4:42:56 PM Greystone101
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** The Sorrow: [[CallBack "The spirit of the warrior will always be with you."]]

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** The Sorrow: [[CallBack "The spirit of the warrior will always be with you."]]"]]
* At the very end, [[spoiler:Big Boss, despite the FOXDIE ravaging his body, and barely being able to stand, saluting The Boss' gravestone one last time. His hand, his entire ''body'' trembles, but suddenly he goes still and '''snaps''' to attention in honour of the woman who defined not only his life, but perhaps the entire world as he and Snake knew it.]]
16th Sep '16 5:53:35 PM Wiseoung-5
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** [[spoiler:Campbell]] also gets one for [[pretending to be Rose's husband]], knowing full well what doing so would do to his relationship with [[spoiler:his daughter, Meryl.]] Doubles as A Crowning Moment of Heartwarming, showing the lengths [[spoiler:Campbell]] was willing to take to protect Raiden and Raiden's family.
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