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* While it might be annoying in the short-run, staying in the Pope's good graces, by scrupulously avoiding unprovoked war with Christian factions, can reap ''huge'' benefits for your faction. Get yourself a couple full-stack armies and wait for a neighboring faction to be excommunicated. Then, convince the Pope to declare a crusade against that neighboring faction. Watch as they are caught completely off-guard as six different countries declare war against them, throwing their own campaigns into disarray and irrevocably shaking up the balance of alliances. Once the dust has settled, you could end up with impressive territorial gains, a huge financial boon due to both papal favors and reduced upkeep of crusading armies, and an increase in the Pope's opinion towards you. That would lead to more cardinals of your faction, meaning more ''Popes'' of your faction, and more crusades against your enemies. You will end up feeling like a ''MagnificentBastard'' who can sway the course of European politics. Your generals will become paragons of chivalry, your economy will grow, and you will effectively ''rope the Church into bankrolling your expansionism''.

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* While it might be annoying in the short-run, staying in the Pope's good graces, by scrupulously avoiding unprovoked war with Christian factions, can reap ''huge'' benefits for your faction. Get yourself a couple full-stack armies and wait for a neighboring faction to be excommunicated. Then, convince the Pope to declare a crusade against that neighboring faction. Watch as they are caught completely off-guard as six different countries declare war against them, throwing their own campaigns into disarray and irrevocably shaking up the balance of alliances. Once the dust has settled, you could end up with impressive territorial gains, a huge financial boon due to both papal favors and reduced upkeep of crusading armies, and an increase in the Pope's opinion towards you. That would lead to more cardinals of your faction, meaning more ''Popes'' of your faction, and more crusades against your enemies. You will end up feeling like a ''MagnificentBastard'' someone who can sway the course of European politics. Your generals will become paragons of chivalry, your economy will grow, and you will effectively ''rope the Church into bankrolling your expansionism''.
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* Defeating the Mongols by withstanding siege after siege until they exhaust themselves is awesome enough. Wiping the faction out by killing every last would-be Khan with an army of master assassins, without your forces ever facing a Mongol in battle, may be even better. But if you want to ''really'' feel like a badass, go out and defeat the Mongols in the field. For bonus points, [[BeatThemAtTheirOwnGame do so as a cavalry-heavy Russian or Turkish force.]]

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* Have you were won a battle in which only 5-10 men are left in each of your companies (not counting the ones that were destroyed or retreated)? Ever dig into a battlefield's small decoration village to funnel the enemies men into a choke point to wait for your reinforcements to arrive? Ever used flanking maneuvers to position you cavalry on both sides of the enemy's regiment and used a pincher maneuver? Have you ever won a battle while being outnumbered or ambushed by using split second retreats, charges, and effective terrain exploitation? Did you ever win the historical battles? Have you ever been forced to control a small main force and wait for the larger huge force to reinforce you? Have you ever tried sallying forth? Have you ever had to control your main force as well as 3+ reinforcing regiments that couldn't quite join you in time? Have you killed a traitorous general using his own ex-partner general that you always brought with him? If you have done any of these and won, you have achieved this. It is so satisfying to see that "famous historical battle" icon on the map that stays there for the rest of the campaign. It is awesome playing with a mere captain and doing so well, that he is offered a promotion to full family membership.

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* Have you were won a battle in which only 5-10 men are left in each of your companies (not counting the ones that were destroyed or retreated)? Ever dig into a battlefield's small decoration village to funnel the enemies men into a choke point to wait for your reinforcements to arrive? Ever used flanking maneuvers to position you cavalry on both sides of the enemy's regiment and used a pincher maneuver? Have you ever won a battle while being outnumbered or ambushed by using split second retreats, charges, and effective terrain exploitation? Did you ever win the historical battles? Have you ever been forced to control a small main force and wait for the larger huge supporting force to reinforce you? Have you ever tried sallying forth? Have you ever had to control your main force as well as 3+ reinforcing regiments that couldn't quite join you in time? Have you killed a traitorous general using his own ex-partner general that you always brought with him? If you have done any of these and won, you have achieved this. It is so satisfying to see that "famous historical battle" icon on the map that stays there for the rest of the campaign. It is
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awesome playing with a mere captain and doing so well, that he is offered a promotion to full family membership.
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* Have you were won a battle in which only 5-10 men are left in each of your companies (not counting the ones that were destroyed or retreated)? Ever dig into a battlefields small decoration village to funnel the enemies men into a choke point to wait for your reinforcements to arrive? Ever used flanking maneuvers to position you cavalry on both sides of the enemy's regiment and used a pincher maneuver? Have you ever won a battle while being outnumbered or ambushed by using split second retreats, charges, and effective terrain exploitation? Did you ever win the historical battles? Have you ever been forced to control a small main force and wait for the larger huge force to reinforce you? Have you ever tried sallying forth? Have you ever had to control your main force as well as 3+ reinforcing regiments that couldn't quite join you in time? Have you killed a traitorous general using his own ex-partner general that you always brought with him? If you have done any of these and won, you have achieved this. It is so satisfying to see that "famous historical battle" icon on the map that stays there for the rest of the campaign. It is awesome playing with a mere captain and doing so well, that he is offered a promotion to full family membership.

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* Have you were won a battle in which only 5-10 men are left in each of your companies (not counting the ones that were destroyed or retreated)? Ever dig into a battlefields battlefield's small decoration village to funnel the enemies men into a choke point to wait for your reinforcements to arrive? Ever used flanking maneuvers to position you cavalry on both sides of the enemy's regiment and used a pincher maneuver? Have you ever won a battle while being outnumbered or ambushed by using split second retreats, charges, and effective terrain exploitation? Did you ever win the historical battles? Have you ever been forced to control a small main force and wait for the larger huge force to reinforce you? Have you ever tried sallying forth? Have you ever had to control your main force as well as 3+ reinforcing regiments that couldn't quite join you in time? Have you killed a traitorous general using his own ex-partner general that you always brought with him? If you have done any of these and won, you have achieved this. It is so satisfying to see that "famous historical battle" icon on the map that stays there for the rest of the campaign. It is awesome playing with a mere captain and doing so well, that he is offered a promotion to full family membership.
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* While it might be annoying in the short-run, staying in the Pope's good graces, by scrupulously avoiding unprovoked war with Christian factions, can reap ''huge'' benefits for your faction. Get yourself a couple full-stack armies and wait for a neighboring faction to be excommunicated. Then, convince the Pope to declare a crusade against that neighboring faction. Watch as they are caught completely off-guard as six different countries declare war against them, throwing their own campaigns into disarray and irrevocably shaking up the balance of alliances. Once the dust has settled, you could end up with impressive territorial gains, a huge financial boon due to papal favors and due to reduced upkeep of crusading armies, and an increase in the Pope's opinion towards you. That would lead to more cardinals of your faction, meaning more ''Popes'' of your faction, and more crusades against your enemies. You will end up feeling like a ''MagnificentBastard'' who can sway the course of European politics. Your generals will become paragons of chivalry, your economy will grow, and you will effectively ''rope the Church into bankrolling your expansionism''.

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* While it might be annoying in the short-run, staying in the Pope's good graces, by scrupulously avoiding unprovoked war with Christian factions, can reap ''huge'' benefits for your faction. Get yourself a couple full-stack armies and wait for a neighboring faction to be excommunicated. Then, convince the Pope to declare a crusade against that neighboring faction. Watch as they are caught completely off-guard as six different countries declare war against them, throwing their own campaigns into disarray and irrevocably shaking up the balance of alliances. Once the dust has settled, you could end up with impressive territorial gains, a huge financial boon due to both papal favors and due to reduced upkeep of crusading armies, and an increase in the Pope's opinion towards you. That would lead to more cardinals of your faction, meaning more ''Popes'' of your faction, and more crusades against your enemies. You will end up feeling like a ''MagnificentBastard'' who can sway the course of European politics. Your generals will become paragons of chivalry, your economy will grow, and you will effectively ''rope the Church into bankrolling your expansionism''.
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* You'd think Scotland, a faction with excellent infantry but relatively weak cavalry and archers, [[LogicalWeakness would fare horribly]] against the Mongols and their armies of horsemen, right? Yes... but only in an open field. Take a few fully upgraded Noble Pikemen, Noble Swordsmen and/or Highland Nobles [[LastStand in a castle defence against a huge Mongol army]], place them in position at the gate, and then simply sit back and watch as the most feared and effective military force since the Roman legions throw themselves at your armoured bulwark and ''[[CurbStompBattle fall in droves]]''.

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* You'd think Scotland, a faction with excellent infantry but relatively weak cavalry and archers, [[LogicalWeakness would fare horribly]] against the Mongols and their armies of horsemen, right? Yes... but only in an open field. Take a few fully upgraded Noble Pikemen, Noble Swordsmen and/or Highland Nobles [[LastStand in a castle defence against a huge Mongol army]], place them in position at the gate, and then simply sit back and watch as the most feared [[TheDreaded feared]] and effective [[BadassArmy effective]] military force since the [[UsefulNotes/TheGloryThatWasRome Roman legions legions]] throw themselves at your armoured bulwark and ''[[CurbStompBattle fall in droves]]''.
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* Put together an army of a few stacks of infantry, and a whole load of catapults and trebuchets, and then attack or defend against a superior force on a bridge. Watch the enemy repeatedly charge down the narrow bridge and set your catapults to use flaming missiles. Watch as the enemy burns to death by the hundreds and your siege unit experience levels max out from zero in a single battle. It is absolutely possible (and extremely entertaining) to defeat two thousand men using less than five hundred in this way with no losses.

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* Put together an army of a few stacks of infantry, and a whole load of catapults and trebuchets, and then attack or defend against a superior force on a bridge. Watch the enemy repeatedly charge down the narrow bridge and set Set your catapults to use flaming missiles.missiles and let the enemy repeatedly charge shoulder-to-shoulder down the narrow bridge. Watch as the enemy burns to death by the hundreds and your siege unit experience levels max out from zero in a single battle. It is absolutely possible (and extremely entertaining) to defeat two thousand men using less than five hundred in this way with no losses.
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* Put together an army of a few stacks of infantry, and a whole load of catapults and trebuchets, and then attack or defend against a superior force on a bridge. Watch the enemy repeatedly charge down the narrow bridge and set your catapults to use flaming missiles. Watch as the enemy burns to death by the hundreds and your siege unit experience levels max out from zero in a single battle. It is absolutely possible (and extremely entertaining) to defeat two thousand men using less than five hundred in this way with no losses.
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* You'd think Scotland, a faction with excellent infantry but relatively weak cavalry and archers, [[LogicalWeakness would fare horribly]] against the Mongols and their armies of horsemen, right? Yes... but only in an open field. Take a few fully upgraded Noble Pikemen, Noble Swordsmen and/or Highland Nobles [[LastStand in a castle defence against a huge Mongol army]], place them in position at the gate, and then simply sit back and watch as the most feared and effective military force since the Roman legions throw themselves at your armoured bulwark and ''[[CurbStompBattle fall in droves]]''.
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* While it might be annoying in the short-run, staying in the Pope's good graces, by scrupulously avoiding war with Christian factions, can reap ''huge'' benefits for your faction. Get yourself a couple full-stack armies and wait for a neighboring faction to be excommunicated. Then, convince the Pope to declare a crusade against that neighboring faction. Watch as they are caught completely off-guard as six different countries declare war against them, throwing their own campaigns into disarray and irrevocably shaking up the balance of alliances. Once the dust has settled, you could end up with impressive territorial gains, a huge financial boon due to papal favors and due to reduced upkeep of crusading armies, and an increase in the Pope's opinion towards you. That would lead to more cardinals of your faction, meaning more ''Popes'' of your faction, and more crusades against your enemies. You will end up feeling like a ''MagnificentBastard'' who can sway the course of European politics. Your generals will become paragons of chivalry, your economy will grow, and you will effectively ''rope the Church into bankrolling your expansionism''.

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* While it might be annoying in the short-run, staying in the Pope's good graces, by scrupulously avoiding unprovoked war with Christian factions, can reap ''huge'' benefits for your faction. Get yourself a couple full-stack armies and wait for a neighboring faction to be excommunicated. Then, convince the Pope to declare a crusade against that neighboring faction. Watch as they are caught completely off-guard as six different countries declare war against them, throwing their own campaigns into disarray and irrevocably shaking up the balance of alliances. Once the dust has settled, you could end up with impressive territorial gains, a huge financial boon due to papal favors and due to reduced upkeep of crusading armies, and an increase in the Pope's opinion towards you. That would lead to more cardinals of your faction, meaning more ''Popes'' of your faction, and more crusades against your enemies. You will end up feeling like a ''MagnificentBastard'' who can sway the course of European politics. Your generals will become paragons of chivalry, your economy will grow, and you will effectively ''rope the Church into bankrolling your expansionism''.
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* While it might be annoying in the short-run, staying in the Pope's good graces, by scrupulously avoiding war with Christian factions, can reap ''huge'' benefits for your faction. Get yourself a couple full-stack armies and wait for a neighboring faction to be excommunicated. Then, convince the Pope to declare a crusade against that neighboring faction. Watch as they are caught completely off-guard as six different countries declare war against them, throwing their own campaigns into disarray and irrevocably shaking up the balance of alliances. Once the dust has settled, you could end up with impressive territorial gains, a huge financial boon due to papal favors and due to reduced upkeep of crusading armies, and an increase in the Pope's opinion towards you. That would lead to more cardinals of your faction, meaning more ''Popes'' of your faction, and more crusades against your enemies. You will end up feeling like a ''MagnificentBastard'' who can sway the course of European politics.

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* While it might be annoying in the short-run, staying in the Pope's good graces, by scrupulously avoiding war with Christian factions, can reap ''huge'' benefits for your faction. Get yourself a couple full-stack armies and wait for a neighboring faction to be excommunicated. Then, convince the Pope to declare a crusade against that neighboring faction. Watch as they are caught completely off-guard as six different countries declare war against them, throwing their own campaigns into disarray and irrevocably shaking up the balance of alliances. Once the dust has settled, you could end up with impressive territorial gains, a huge financial boon due to papal favors and due to reduced upkeep of crusading armies, and an increase in the Pope's opinion towards you. That would lead to more cardinals of your faction, meaning more ''Popes'' of your faction, and more crusades against your enemies. You will end up feeling like a ''MagnificentBastard'' who can sway the course of European politics. Your generals will become paragons of chivalry, your economy will grow, and you will effectively ''rope the Church into bankrolling your expansionism''.
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* While it might be annoying in the short-run, staying in the Pope's good graces can reap ''huge'' benefits for your faction. Get yourself a couple full-stack armies and convince the Pope to declare a crusade against a neighboring faction. Watch as they are caught completely off-guard as six different countries declare war against them, throwing their own campaigns into disarray and irrevocably shaking up the balance of alliances. Once the dust has settled, you could end up with impressive territorial gains, a huge financial boon due to papal favors and due to reduced upkeep of crusading armies, and an increase in the Pope's opinion towards you. That would lead to more cardinals of your faction, meaning more ''Popes'' of your faction, and more crusades against your enemies. You will end up feeling like a ''MagnificentBastard'' who can sway the course of European politics.

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* While it might be annoying in the short-run, staying in the Pope's good graces graces, by scrupulously avoiding war with Christian factions, can reap ''huge'' benefits for your faction. Get yourself a couple full-stack armies and wait for a neighboring faction to be excommunicated. Then, convince the Pope to declare a crusade against a that neighboring faction. Watch as they are caught completely off-guard as six different countries declare war against them, throwing their own campaigns into disarray and irrevocably shaking up the balance of alliances. Once the dust has settled, you could end up with impressive territorial gains, a huge financial boon due to papal favors and due to reduced upkeep of crusading armies, and an increase in the Pope's opinion towards you. That would lead to more cardinals of your faction, meaning more ''Popes'' of your faction, and more crusades against your enemies. You will end up feeling like a ''MagnificentBastard'' who can sway the course of European politics.
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* While it might be annoying in the short-run, staying in the Pope's good graces can reap ''huge'' benefits for your faction. Get yourself a couple full-stack armies and convince the Pope to declare a crusade against a neighboring faction. Watch as they are caught completely off-guard as six different countries declare war against them, throwing their own campaigns into disarray and irrevocably shaking up the balance of alliances. Once the dust has settled, you could end up with impressive territorial gains, a huge financial boon due to papal favors and due to reduced upkeep of crusading armies, and an increase in the Pope's opinion towards you. That would lead to more cardinals of your faction, meaning more ''Popes'' of your faction, and more crusades against your enemies. You will end up feeling like a ''MagnificentBastard'' who can sway the course of European politics.
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* Killing the King of an enemy faction in battle, especially with low-tier units. It's especially gratifying when you see the demoralized knights and archers fleeing from the badass army of town militia who just defeated their lord.
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* Have you were won a battle in which only 5-10 men are left in each of your companies (not counting the ones that were destroyed or retreated)? Ever dig into a battlefields small decoration village to funnel the enemies men into a choke point to wait for your reinforcements to arrive? Ever used flanking maneuvers to position you cavalry on both sides of the enemy's regiment and used a pincher maneuver? Have you ever won a battle while being outnumbered or ambushed by using split second retreats, charges, and effective terrain exploitation? Did you ever win the historical battles? Have you ever been force to control a small main force and wait for the larger huge force to reinforce you? Have you ever tried sallying forth? Have you ever had to control your main force as well as 3+ reinforcing regiments that couldn't quite join you in time? Have you killed a traitor general using his own ex-partner general that you always brought with him? If you have done any of these and won, you have achieved this. It is so satisfying to see that "famous historical battle" icon on the map that stays there for the rest of the campaign. It is awesome playing with a mere captain and doing so well, that he is offered a promotion to full family membership.

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* Have you were won a battle in which only 5-10 men are left in each of your companies (not counting the ones that were destroyed or retreated)? Ever dig into a battlefields small decoration village to funnel the enemies men into a choke point to wait for your reinforcements to arrive? Ever used flanking maneuvers to position you cavalry on both sides of the enemy's regiment and used a pincher maneuver? Have you ever won a battle while being outnumbered or ambushed by using split second retreats, charges, and effective terrain exploitation? Did you ever win the historical battles? Have you ever been force to control a small main force and wait for the larger huge force to reinforce you? Have you ever tried sallying forth? Have you ever had to control your main force as well as 3+ reinforcing regiments that couldn't quite join you in time? Have you killed a traitor general using his own ex-partner general that you always brought with him? If you have done any of these and won, you have achieved this. It is so satisfying to see that "famous historical battle" icon on the map that stays there for the rest of the campaign. It is awesome playing with a mere captain and doing so well, that he is offered a promotion to full family membership.membership.
* It is possible to have a peasants with nine experience and upgraded weapons (that's the max they can get). Do this in custom battle and pit them against three enemy units of inexperienced peasants with no upgrades. Spread your peasants thin to get a surround, bunch them up to form a tight circle, put them in trees, on a mountain, and/or in a choke point. Using the right strategies, you can win the battle with three to one odds.
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* Have you were won a battle in which only 5-10 men are left in each of your companies (not counting the ones that were destroyed or retreated)? Ever dig into a battlefields small decoration village to funnel the enemies men into a choke point to wait for your reinforcements to arrive? Ever used flanking maneuvers to position you cavalry on both sides of the enemy's regiment and used a pincher maneuver? Have you ever won a battle while being outnumbered or ambushed by using split second retreats, charges, and effective terrain exploitation? Did you ever win the historical battles? Have you ever been force to control a small main force and wait for the larger huge force to reinforce you? Have you ever tried sallying forth? Have you ever had to control your main force as well as 3+ reinforcing regiments that couldn't quite join you in time? Have you killed a traitor general using his own ex-partner general that you always brought with him? If you have done any of these and won, you have achieved this. It is so satisfying to see that "famous historical battle" icon on the map that stays there for the rest of the campaign. It is awesome playing with a mere captain and doing so well, that he is offered a promotion to full family membership.

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