History Anvilicious / WesternAnimation

22nd May '18 10:18:00 PM Kid
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** And when ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' wants to discuss factory farming, their approach is as follows: Compare it to the Holocaust. No explanation, no exploration of the cruelties and abuses of factory farms- just compare it to the Holocaust. With a pun. "Da-cow".

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** And when ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' wants to discuss factory farming, their approach is as follows: Compare it to the Holocaust. No explanation, no exploration of the cruelties and abuses of factory farms- farms - just compare it to the Holocaust. With a pun. "Da-cow".
6th May '18 5:20:50 PM nombretomado
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* The ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Thundercats 2011}} [=ThunderCats (2011)=]]]'' episode "Ramlak Rising" is a WholePlotReference to ''Literature/MobyDick'' crammed into a 22-minute runtime, which results in its Ahab-{{homage}} and its message of HeWhoFightsMonsters and RevengeBeforeReason being very blatant and broadly drawn. When we meet Captain Tunar, he isn't JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope, he's already mid-leap.
* Original ''{{Thundercats}}'' was ''extremely'' anvil-heavy in most of its first episodes. Fortunately, they let up after a while and managed to make the show mostly fun.
** '''Tigra:''' "Rules only work if everyone agrees to follow them. Otherwise, they're just words." Leaning on the Fourth Wall, yet.

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* The ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Thundercats 2011}} [=ThunderCats (2011)=]]]'' ''WesternAnimation/Thundercats2011'' episode "Ramlak Rising" is a WholePlotReference to ''Literature/MobyDick'' crammed into a 22-minute runtime, which results in its Ahab-{{homage}} and its message of HeWhoFightsMonsters and RevengeBeforeReason being very blatant and broadly drawn. When we meet Captain Tunar, he isn't JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope, he's already mid-leap.
* Original ''{{Thundercats}}'' ''WesternAnimation/{{ThunderCats|1985}}'' was ''extremely'' anvil-heavy in most of its first episodes. Fortunately, they let up after a while and managed to make the show mostly fun.
** '''Tigra:''' -->'''Tigra:''' "Rules only work if everyone agrees to follow them. Otherwise, they're just words." Leaning on the Fourth Wall, yet.
22nd Apr '18 3:07:46 AM BigJimbo
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* It could be said that the ''premise'' of ''WesternAnimation/CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteers'' was anvilicious. A group of eco superheroes who command the powers of nature to fight evil polluters. Yup, [[ForTheEvulz bad guys who don't produce anything; just pollute]]. Though in its defense, if they had written it as a cyberpunk story about a bunch of eco-terrorists fighting against the overwhelming power of the corporate menace, it wouldn't exactly have been able to appeal to children now would it? That's the lesson here: if it's U.S. children's television, it must make use of anvilicious aesops. Removing them makes the show no longer acceptable for children!
** One episode had Dr. Blight producing beef -via mutated, drugged-up, oversized cattle. To hammer the point home, the African village chief who was helping Blight -and eating many many burgers made from the freak cattle- went on a crazy rampage and had to be restrained. [[SarcasmMode Yes, mass-produced beef is bad.]] Ibex and other meat produced via older, pre-industrial methods is better. [[note]]If you don't mind the parasites and diseases that cut down on how much meat is produced, or getting ill after eating meat with said bugs.[[/note]]

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* It could be said that the ''premise'' of ''WesternAnimation/CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteers'' was anvilicious. A group of eco superheroes who command the powers of nature to fight evil polluters. Yup, [[ForTheEvulz bad guys who don't produce anything; just pollute]]. Though in its defense, if they had written it as a cyberpunk story about a bunch of eco-terrorists fighting against the overwhelming power of the corporate menace, it wouldn't exactly have been able to appeal to children now would it? That's the lesson here: if it's U.S. children's television, it must make use of anvilicious aesops. Removing aesops, removing them makes the show no longer acceptable for children!
children.
** One episode had Dr. Blight producing beef -via mutated, drugged-up, oversized cattle. To hammer the point home, the African village chief who was helping Blight -and eating many many burgers made from the freak cattle- went on a crazy rampage and had to be restrained. [[SarcasmMode Yes, Apparently, mass-produced beef is bad.]] bad. Ibex and other meat produced via older, pre-industrial methods is better. [[note]]If you don't mind the parasites and diseases that cut down on how much meat is produced, or getting ill after eating meat with said bugs.[[/note]]



** The show drops the anvil especially hard in the episode "EZ Jackster". The scriptwriters manage to slam ''Film/TheMatrix'' movies (the "bad kid" is black and dressed like Morpheus did in the movies) '''and''' hit the audience over the head with a story about how [[DigitalPiracyIsEvil illegally downloading music]] and nice kids don't do it. Oh, and it [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything visually equates illicit filesharing to drug abuse]]. Seriously.
* Parodied on the ''WesternAnimation/{{Animaniacs}}'' cartoon, where the final sequence to many episodes was the "Wheel of Morality", a Big 6 style wheel the characters would spin to randomly determine the moral of the episode in a parody of AndKnowingIsHalfTheBattle. ("Wheel of Morality, turn turn turn, tell us the lesson that we should learn!") One short played up the randomness and gameshow / gambling aspect by having the result be a prize in the form of a free vacation. What makes this especially amusing is that the creative team on the show was pressured to include lessons in the format. The above was only one response, while another, vastly more scathing one has Slappy Squirrel go through plastic surgery to start her career over... so she can make cartoons more violent, just like they used to be.
* ''[[WesternAnimation/PoundPuppies1980s Pound Puppies]]'': At one point, the adult puppies (?) tell one of the [[DepartmentofRedundancyDepartment child puppies]] (?!) a story about how a kid lying about breaking a vase causes the death of everyone they know and the destruction of their whole fantasy world.

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** The show drops the anvil especially hard in the episode "EZ Jackster". The scriptwriters manage to slam ''Film/TheMatrix'' movies (the "bad kid" is black and dressed like Morpheus did in the movies) '''and''' hit the audience over the head with a story about how [[DigitalPiracyIsEvil illegally downloading music]] and nice kids don't do it. Oh, and Not to mention that it [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything visually equates illicit filesharing to drug abuse]]. Seriously.
abuse]].
* Parodied on the ''WesternAnimation/{{Animaniacs}}'' cartoon, where the final sequence to many episodes was the "Wheel of Morality", a Big 6 style wheel the characters would spin to randomly determine the moral of the episode in a parody of AndKnowingIsHalfTheBattle. ("Wheel of Morality, turn turn turn, tell us the lesson that we should learn!") One short played up the randomness and gameshow / gambling aspect by having the result be a prize in the form of a free vacation. What makes this especially amusing is that the creative team on the show was pressured to include lessons in the format. The above was only one response, while another, vastly more scathing one has Slappy Squirrel go through plastic surgery to start her career over... over, so she can make cartoons more violent, just like they used to be.
* ''[[WesternAnimation/PoundPuppies1980s Pound Puppies]]'': At one point, the adult puppies (?) tell one of the [[DepartmentofRedundancyDepartment child puppies]] (?!) a story about how a kid lying about breaking a vase causes the death of everyone they know and the destruction of their whole fantasy world.



** Including [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5gNSqJyzn8 this]] little gem. Sure, it's a great lesson, but the delivery, as with ''any'' kids show that tries the same thing, means it almost always comes off sounding like [[SpoofAesop they're just trying to make you laugh more.]]

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** Including [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5gNSqJyzn8 this]] little gem. Sure, it's this]]. It's a great lesson, but the delivery, as with ''any'' kids show that tries the same thing, means it almost always comes off sounding like [[SpoofAesop they're just trying to make you laugh more.]]



** There's the ''She-Ra'' episode ''The Price of Freedom''. [[spoiler:A village enslaved to the Horde give up everything but the clothes on their backs to escape to freedom, while He-Man comes probably the closest ever, in that particular declared kids' show, to ''dying'' when he helps them escape after She-Ra's gone for reinforcements. It's hammered in again and again about how freedom is worth any price.]] Yet the 'what did we learn this episode?' was about the dangers of ''fire'', based on the village being burnt. Wrong anvil.
* ''WesternAnimation/{{Freakazoid}}'': In one episode the story is interrupted by a member of the censor board. At the end she is hit with an anvil [[DontExplainTheJoke because censors are bad, geddit?]]

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** There's the ''She-Ra'' episode ''The Price of Freedom''. [[spoiler:A village enslaved to the Horde give up everything but the clothes on their backs to escape to freedom, while He-Man comes probably the closest ever, in that particular declared kids' show, to ''dying'' when he helps them escape after She-Ra's gone for reinforcements. It's hammered in again and again about how freedom is worth any price.]] Yet the 'what did we learn this episode?' was about the dangers of ''fire'', based on the village being burnt. Wrong anvil.
burnt.
* ''WesternAnimation/{{Freakazoid}}'': In one episode the story is interrupted by a member of the censor board. At the end she is hit with an anvil [[DontExplainTheJoke because censors are bad, geddit?]]bad,.]]



* ''WesternAnimation/FerngullyTheLastRainforest'': Humans suck, pollution is the devil and cutting down trees is pure evil because as any fairy will tell you they feel pain. The animated musical. Becomes a bit [[{{Irony}} ironic]] when you realize that the [[Creator/TimCurry spirit of]] [[EvilIsSexy pollution]] is the [[JustHereForGodzilla main reason most people watch the movie in the first place.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/FerngullyTheLastRainforest'': Humans suck, pollution is the devil and cutting down trees is pure evil because as any fairy will tell you they feel pain. The animated musical. Becomes a bit [[{{Irony}} ironic]] when you realize that the [[Creator/TimCurry spirit of]] [[EvilIsSexy pollution]] is the [[JustHereForGodzilla main reason most people watch the movie in the first place.]]



*** This was made even worse by the fact that an earlier episode condemned robosexuality. Fry's Lucy Liu-bot died in vain!

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*** This was made even worse by the fact that an earlier episode condemned robosexuality. Fry's Lucy Liu-bot died in vain!vain.



** "Arthur's Big Hit": Never hit your younger sibling, even if they damage something you worked on for weeks. Otherwise you'll find yourself hated by all of your friends while said sibling [[KarmaHoudini gets away with no punishment scot-free]].

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** "Arthur's Big Hit": Never hit your younger sibling, even if they damage something you worked on for weeks. Otherwise you'll find yourself hated by all of your friends while said sibling [[KarmaHoudini probably gets away with no punishment scot-free]].punishment]].
22nd Apr '18 2:59:27 AM BigJimbo
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** "Bleep": When you curse, you are saying "I want to hurt your feelings". This is the actual reason they give in the episode. Unsurprisingly, this and "Arthur's Big Hit" are often seen as the show's lowest points.

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** "Bleep": When you curse, you are saying "I want to hurt your feelings". This is Due to the actual reason they give in the episode. Unsurprisingly, bad handling of their respective Aesops, this and "Arthur's Big Hit" are often seen as the show's lowest points.
3rd Dec '17 4:41:16 PM chopshop
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** Quite a few cartoons from the mid-70s onward were very, very Anvilicious. For example, there was ''WesternAnimation/{{Fat Albert|AndTheCosbyKids}}'' and the animated version of ''Series/GilligansIsland''. ''Every'' single episode of those ended with the characters having learned a lesson, and usually drove it home about as hard as they could short of grabbing the audience and screaming it into their faces.

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** One episode of ''WesternAnimation/OKKOLetsBeHeroes'' is a crossover with ''Captain Planet'' and is basically an extended mockery of it's anvil-dropping. Amongst other things, Lord Boxman lampshades that Dr. Blight polluting the world ForTheEvulz is [[StupidEvil idiotic]] ("Why would we want to destroy the world exactly? We do ''live'' on the world...") and the ending points out that [[RealityEnsues beating little kids over the head with messages about climate change probably isn't going to change much]]; after all, [[FridgeLogic what are kids watching Saturday morning cartoons supposed to do about worldwide issues like global warming and pollution]]?
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Quite a few cartoons from the mid-70s onward were very, very Anvilicious. For example, there was ''WesternAnimation/{{Fat Albert|AndTheCosbyKids}}'' and the animated version of ''Series/GilligansIsland''. ''Every'' single episode of those ended with the characters having learned a lesson, and usually drove it home about as hard as they could short of grabbing the audience and screaming it into their faces.
25th Jul '17 10:36:33 AM Kissinger113
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25th Jul '17 10:34:45 AM Kissinger113
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** The first showcases the main characters getting [[MindRape mind raped at the hands of a reform school]] resulting in all of their beloved qualities getting stripped away, [[Literature/AClockworkOrange Clockwork Orange]] style. The second presents a dystopian society resulting from MoralGuardians banning creativity and imagination and [[MoralEventHorizon locking up kids at a young age until they reach adulthood]]. The third claims that the "straight and narrow" is the worst way to live life.

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** The first showcases the main characters getting [[MindRape mind raped at the hands of a reform school]] resulting in all of their beloved qualities getting stripped away, [[Literature/AClockworkOrange Clockwork Orange]] style. The second presents a dystopian society resulting from MoralGuardians banning creativity and imagination and [[MoralEventHorizon [[AndIMustScream locking up kids at a young age until they reach adulthood]]. The third claims that the "straight and narrow" is the worst way to live life.
14th Jul '17 12:03:37 PM Prinzenick
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->Captain: "Why not? You do."
->Audience: "Oooooh..."

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->Captain: "Why not? You ''You'' do."
->Audience: ->[[NoFourthWall Audience]]: "Oooooh..."
14th Jul '17 11:57:00 AM Prinzenick
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-->Poindexter: "You can't use our planet as a junkyard!"
-->Captain: "Why not? You do."
-->Audience: "Oooooh..."
-->Captain: [[GreenAesop "Your rivers, your beaches, your canyons, your frankfurters, all filled with the filth you so frivolously fling!"]]
-->Felix: "Poindexter, this is horrible. [[SelfDeprecation We're prisoners in a cartoon with a moral to it!"]]

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-->Poindexter: ->Poindexter: "You can't use our planet as a junkyard!"
-->Captain: ->Captain: "Why not? You do."
-->Audience: ->Audience: "Oooooh..."
-->Captain: ->Captain: [[GreenAesop "Your rivers, your beaches, your canyons, your frankfurters, all filled with the filth you so frivolously fling!"]]
-->Felix: ->Felix: "Poindexter, this is horrible. [[SelfDeprecation We're prisoners in a cartoon with a moral to it!"]]
14th Jul '17 11:56:24 AM Prinzenick
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-->Poindexter: "You can't use our planet as a junkyard!"
-->Captain: "Why not? You do."
-->Audience: "Oooooh..."
-->Captain: [[GreenAesop "Your rivers, your beaches, your canyons, your frankfurters, all filled with the filth you so frivolously fling!"]]
-->Felix: "Poindexter, this is horrible. [[SelfDeprecation We're prisoners in a cartoon with a moral to it!"]]
-->--WesternAnimation/TheTwistedTalesOfFelixTheCat, "Star Trash"
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