History AntiVillain / VideoGames

23rd Feb '17 7:56:23 AM khemri
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*** Except [[BigBad Seija Kijin]], true villain of Double Dealing Character and VillainProtagonist of Impossible Spell Card, who at her core is a mean-spirited manipulator and terrorist who is never redeemed, and even goes on to rob Hakurei Shrine in the "Gold Rush" game.
2nd Feb '17 11:09:41 AM GlitteringFlowers
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*** In the main storyline, we have [[WellDoneSonGuy Kishuna]], who is [[spoiler: apparently the only morph Nergal created with emotions]], and only fights your party out of a desperate desire to [[spoiler: prove himself to said {{Jerkass}}]]. Kishuna can't even do anything to you personally save negate your magic - which makes it [[AlasPoorVillain really gutwrenchingly cruel in Hector's Story Mode if you fight him in his 3rd Gaiden chapter, because, this time, you]] ''[[AlasPoorVillain must]]'' [[AlasPoorVillain kill him to finish the chapter]]. The objective doesn't even ''say'' 'Defeat' so much as 'Kill'. [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential Why, Intelligent Systems...]]''WHY''?!

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*** In the main storyline, we have there's [[WellDoneSonGuy Kishuna]], who is [[spoiler: apparently the only morph Nergal created with emotions]], and who only fights your the party out of a desperate desire to [[spoiler: prove himself to said {{Jerkass}}]]. Kishuna can't even do anything to you personally tge group save negate your the magic - which makes it [[AlasPoorVillain really gutwrenchingly cruel in Hector's Story Mode if you fight him fought in his 3rd Gaiden chapter, because, this time, you]] the cast]] ''[[AlasPoorVillain must]]'' [[AlasPoorVillain kill him to finish the chapter]]. The objective doesn't even ''say'' 'Defeat' so much as 'Kill'. [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential Why, Intelligent Systems...]]''WHY''?!


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** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'' has Nohr, ''a whole kingdom'' of anti villains:
*** In ''Birthright'', Nohr is the aggressor of the war and the antagonists, but its soldiers are still largely shown to be good and decent people otherwise. Many of them are just doing their jobs, such as Benny and Charlotte, while some are [[UndyingLoyalty so loyal to the royalty that they willingly fight for them]], [[NotSoDifferent not unlike some characters from Hoshido]]. Many of them even show no signs of hatred of Hoshido, even when battling them.
*** In ''Conquest'', they also technically count as this due to being the VillainProtagonist side. While they assist Garon and his lackeys, Iago and Hans, in the conquest of Hoshido, the playable characters do have a sense of morality and find Garon's methods questionable.
** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemHeroes'' strongly implies that Princess Veronica from the Emblian Empire, the LittleMissBadass BigBad, is one of these. [[spoiler: Xander]], one of the warriors she's summoned, says she's a very sad person:
-->"I am also bound in another way– by the deep loneliness I see in her eyes. She reminds me of [[spoiler: one of my siblings who was once held captive in a joyless fortress.]] Perhaps you can understand why I could never oppose her. Or perhaps you cannot. "
27th Jan '17 3:53:32 AM appealus
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* ''VideoGame/{{Assassins Creed|I}}'' has Templars, the main antagonists of the game who murder innocent people and attempt to conquer the world. The catch? They have exactly the same goal as the protagonists - world peace - except that the Templars would rather be quick about it and use [[spoiler:ancient mind control technology, instead of letting people decide for themselves.]] Another example of an Anti-Villain would be Rodrigo Borgia, who, after his [[spoiler:defeat in ''VideoGame/{{Assassin's Creed II}}'', softened up a lot and attempted to have the real big bad, his own son, assassinated to prevent him from causing further harm.]]

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* ''VideoGame/{{Assassins Creed|I}}'' has Templars, the main antagonists of the game who murder innocent people and attempt to conquer the world. The catch? They have exactly the same goal as the protagonists - world peace - except that the Templars would rather be quick about it and use [[spoiler:ancient mind control technology, instead of letting people decide for themselves.]] Another example of an Anti-Villain would be Rodrigo Borgia, who, after his [[spoiler:defeat in ''VideoGame/{{Assassin's VideoGame/{{Assassins Creed II}}'', II}}, softened up a lot and attempted to have the real big bad, his own son, assassinated to prevent him from causing further harm.]]
24th Dec '16 11:51:20 AM nombretomado
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* ''{{Arcanum}}'' has [[spoiler: Kerghan the terrible. He might be an Omnicidal Maniac but, in a way, he's making everyone happy forever.]]

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* ''{{Arcanum}}'' ''VideoGame/ArcanumOfSteamworksAndMagickObscura'' has [[spoiler: Kerghan the terrible. He might be an Omnicidal Maniac but, in a way, he's making everyone happy forever.]]
20th Oct '16 9:29:14 AM cristian12345
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* {{Oswald the Lucky Rabbit}} in ''EpicMickey''. He wants to kill Mickey, but this is fueled by his feelings of neglect, Mickey's popularity, the fact the guy is responsible for the decaying of his world, and the fate of his "common law wife" Ortensia. [[{{SlidingScaleOfAntiVillains}} Type II.]]
10th Oct '16 3:54:40 PM durzan1986
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** For that matter, the Knight-Commander herself. She saves the PlayerCharacter's life during the [[spoiler: Kunari attack]], and has no problems fighting beside an obviously-apostate mage. She seems rather reasonable [[spoiler: until she picks up that relic and gets mind-controlled.]]

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** For that matter, the Knight-Commander herself. She saves the PlayerCharacter's life during the [[spoiler: Kunari Qunari attack]], and has no problems fighting beside an obviously-apostate mage. She seems rather reasonable [[spoiler: until she picks up that relic and gets mind-controlled.]]]]
*** Knight-Commander's actions are by no means justifiable by simply [[spoiler: being mind-controlled.]]. Sure, she has some excuse for her actions but later conversations specially in the next game shows that she used tranquility as punishment for crimes such as sending a love letter to a Templar and LESSER offenses YEARS before [[spoiler: that damn idol was discovered.]]. At best she is a (rather misguided) well intentioned extremism.
9th Oct '16 3:13:57 PM ShivaIndis
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* The Magic Emperor from ''{{Lunar}}'' is a definite example. He plays a GenreSavvy CardCarryingVillain for most of the game, but his motives are not entirely selfish. [[spoiler: He decides to take over the world because the goddess Althena abdicated her role and left humanity to fend for itself.]] His true desire is to save humanity from itself, as is made obvious by his clear anguish during his FaceHeelTurn. [[spoiler: He also pulls a HeelFaceTurn in the sequel.]]
** That was really the whole point of the second game, in fact. If you read between the lines enough, you can see that he figured out somewhere (likely by some ancient texts in the Magic Guild Library) that the BigBad of the second game [[spoiler: would be coming back at some point, thanks to the events that took place fifteen years before the first game. So it was doubly true that Althena was leaving Lunar to fend for itself, both in terms of divine guidance ''and'' divine protection.]]

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* The Magic Emperor from ''{{Lunar}}'' ''Franchise/{{Lunar}}'' is a definite example. He plays a GenreSavvy CardCarryingVillain for most of the game, but his motives are not entirely selfish. [[spoiler: He decides to take over the world because the goddess Goddess Althena abdicated her role and left humanity to fend for itself.]] His true desire is to save humanity from itself, as is made obvious by his clear anguish during his FaceHeelTurn. [[spoiler: He also pulls a HeelFaceTurn in the sequel.]]
** That was really the whole point of the second game, in fact. If you read between the lines enough, you can see that he figured out somewhere (likely by some ancient texts in the Magic Guild Library) that the BigBad of the second game [[spoiler: would be coming back at some point, thanks to the events that took place fifteen years before the first game. So it was doubly true that Althena was leaving Lunar to fend for itself, both in terms of divine guidance ''and'' divine protection.
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22nd Aug '16 11:54:32 PM Nicoaln
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* Symmetra from ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'' is by default a good hearted lady... except she's pretty much the top enforcer of [[MegaCorp Vishkar]] [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Corporation]], a very KnightTemplar organization that have no qualms about making people suffer in order to describe their brand of order while getting more profits. Symmetra is baffled with their underhanded methods, but believed that maybe they're doing it ForTheGreaterGood... which was because she was kidnapped from her old life of poverty by themselves and quite possibly indoctrinated with their philosophies from young age just because they want her talent in HardLight manipulation.

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* Symmetra from ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'' is by default a good hearted lady... except she's pretty much the top enforcer of [[MegaCorp Vishkar]] [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Corporation]], a very KnightTemplar organization that have no qualms about making people suffer in order to describe their brand of order while getting more profits. Symmetra is baffled with their underhanded methods, but believed that maybe they're doing it ForTheGreaterGood... which was because she was kidnapped from her old life of poverty by themselves and quite possibly indoctrinated with their philosophies from young age just because they want her talent in HardLight manipulation. WordOfGod states this was intentional - she is described as not being a villain in the sense of Reaper or Widowmaker, but people in-universe may view her as a villain.
14th Aug '16 10:20:03 AM nombretomado
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** [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV Golbez]] is this in ''DissidiaFinalFantasy''. He's downright polite when facing off against the heroes, saving the [[DefectorFromDecadence trash-talking]] for when dealing with the other villains in Chaos' faction. [[spoiler: And reflecting his HeelFaceTurn from the original game, he turns out to be a StealthMentor for Cecil. By the end of the game, his role in the story can [[GoodAllAlong hardly be called antagonistic.]]]]

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** [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV Golbez]] is this in ''DissidiaFinalFantasy''.''VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasy''. He's downright polite when facing off against the heroes, saving the [[DefectorFromDecadence trash-talking]] for when dealing with the other villains in Chaos' faction. [[spoiler: And reflecting his HeelFaceTurn from the original game, he turns out to be a StealthMentor for Cecil. By the end of the game, his role in the story can [[GoodAllAlong hardly be called antagonistic.]]]]
14th Aug '16 2:31:51 AM Potman
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* King Asgore of ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' has declared war on all humans, giving hope to the monsters trapped in Mt. Ebott that they can one day return to the surface and enact their revenge for being sealed. [[spoiler:Asgore made that declaration in a fit of anger after the death of his son Asriel and his adopted human child, Chara, both of which humans were responsible for. Asgore has regretted it ever since, but is forced to keep up the ruse because the people would turn on him if he didn't. When the player reaches Asgore in a boss battle, it's clear he really doesn't want to go through with killing the player, but feels [[ShootTheDog he has no choice]].]]

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* King Asgore of ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' has declared war on all humans, giving hope to the monsters trapped in Mt. Ebott that they can one day return to the surface and enact their revenge for being sealed. [[spoiler:Asgore made that declaration in a fit of anger after the death of his son Asriel and his adopted human child, Chara, both of which humans were responsible for. Asgore has regretted it ever since, but is forced to keep up the ruse because the people would turn on him if he didn't. When the player reaches Asgore in a boss battle, it's clear he really doesn't want to go through with killing the player, but feels [[ShootTheDog he has no choice]].]]
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