History AntiVillain / VideoGames

5th Jun '16 11:03:48 AM nombretomado
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* ''VideoGame/{{Darkstalkers}}'' has PlanetEater Pyron and DarkMessiah Jedah. Pyron was prime BigBad material in the original games, considering that he's essentially ComicBook/{{Galactus}} except he destroys planets [[ForTheEvulz for fun]], but the PS2 port of ''Vampire Savior'' showed that he recognized that there was something worthwhile in Makai and Earth and he lets them live. This wasn't the first time he spared Earth, incidentally. And Jedah, granted, has an AssimilationPlot as his grand scheme, but can you really fault him in a world where nine out of every ten demons are bloodthirsty monsters without any sense of dignity, respect, or loyalty and are just furthering their own goals? The others are perfectly nice and upstanding individuals, but [[VanHelsingHateCrimes they've got to worry about humans.]] The savior of humanity is a mentally scarred girl who is probably one step away from going {{Tykebomb}} on us. A chance to start fresh and correct past mistakes can't be ''that'' bad, can it?

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* ''VideoGame/{{Darkstalkers}}'' has PlanetEater Pyron and DarkMessiah Jedah. Pyron was prime BigBad material in the original games, considering that he's essentially ComicBook/{{Galactus}} except he destroys planets [[ForTheEvulz for fun]], but the PS2 [=PS2=] port of ''Vampire Savior'' showed that he recognized that there was something worthwhile in Makai and Earth and he lets them live. This wasn't the first time he spared Earth, incidentally. And Jedah, granted, has an AssimilationPlot as his grand scheme, but can you really fault him in a world where nine out of every ten demons are bloodthirsty monsters without any sense of dignity, respect, or loyalty and are just furthering their own goals? The others are perfectly nice and upstanding individuals, but [[VanHelsingHateCrimes they've got to worry about humans.]] The savior of humanity is a mentally scarred girl who is probably one step away from going {{Tykebomb}} on us. A chance to start fresh and correct past mistakes can't be ''that'' bad, can it?
30th May '16 5:05:30 PM Miracle@StOlaf
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** Daisy Fitzroy leads a revolution that tears the city apart, sets her mooks after Booker and Elizabeth and [[spoiler:threatens]] to kill a child, but she just wants to end the racism in this city, and [[spoiler:she was disgusted by the idea of killing a child, and only threatened to do so as part of a BatmanGambit]]

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** Daisy Fitzroy leads a revolution that tears the city apart, sets her mooks after Booker and Elizabeth and [[spoiler:threatens]] to kill a child, but she just wants to end the racism in this city, and [[spoiler:she was disgusted by the idea of killing a child, and only threatened to do so as part of a BatmanGambit]]BatmanGambit]] The ''rest'' of the Vox Populi, [[KillEmAll on the other hand...]]
16th May '16 12:47:39 PM TheNicestGuy
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** ''VideoGame/BorderlandsThePreSequel'' both further confuses and clarifies the issue, as Jack is a bonafide Good Guy for much of the story. As the [[{{FramingDevice}} framing device]] is a [[{{WholeEpisodeFlashback}} flashback]] being told to characters who had already suffered Jack at his very worst, the dissonance is clearly called out. As the plot progresses, Jack gradually becomes more ruthless. His slide into villainy is evident, but it doesn't change the fact that at least ''some'' of his motivations are debatably justified.
-->'''Brick:''' Your story makes Jack seem kind of sympathetic. I hate it.
** On the flip side, the official antagonist for most of the story, Colonel Tungsteena Zarpedon, is an anti-villain in her own right. More specifically, her murdering thousands of innocents is NecessarilyEvil, because it is "to save millions". In her zeal, she doesn't care who stands in her way or whether they understand her reasons.
5th May '16 10:25:19 PM Gingerkitteh
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[[NotSoDifferent You were just like me]], [[[VisionaryVillain trying to make history]]\\

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[[NotSoDifferent You were just like me]], [[[VisionaryVillain [[VisionaryVillain trying to make history]]\\
19th Apr '16 8:16:36 PM Nicoaln
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** One reason it's an interesting example is the fact that the first game only gives you information that Isaac, Garet, Ivan, and Mia know. When Saturos is fought on the top of Mercury Lighthouse, Jenna seems to try and warn them... not of the fact that Saturos is right there behind the beacon, but that they are actually doing what is good for the world. When they are fought at Venus Lighthouse? Jenna and Kraden aren't there at all.
17th Jan '16 6:12:01 PM nombretomado
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* [[StarControl The Ur-Quan.]] Especially the green Kzer-Za. Sure, they enslave other races and they're merciless to those who disobey them, but that's all due to their FreudianExcuse, which they will explain once you learn the ArcWords. In addition to their sympathetic backstory, they also seem to have a sense of honor; if you [[NonStandardGameOver surrender to them]], they promise to spare your crew. They are also willing to let you peacably leave their space (once) if you warn them about the return of the cause of their FreudianExcuse, regardless of you still being their enemy.

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* [[StarControl [[VideoGame/StarControl The Ur-Quan.]] Especially the green Kzer-Za. Sure, they enslave other races and they're merciless to those who disobey them, but that's all due to their FreudianExcuse, which they will explain once you learn the ArcWords. In addition to their sympathetic backstory, they also seem to have a sense of honor; if you [[NonStandardGameOver surrender to them]], they promise to spare your crew. They are also willing to let you peacably leave their space (once) if you warn them about the return of the cause of their FreudianExcuse, regardless of you still being their enemy.
1st Jan '16 2:43:54 PM KingLyger
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* King Asgore of ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' has declared war on all humans, giving hope to the monsters trapped in Mt. Ebott that they can one day return to the surface and enact their revenge for being sealed. [[spoiler:Asgore made that declaration in a fit of anger after the death of his son Asriel and his adopted human child, Chara, both of which humans were responsible for. Asgore has regretted it ever since, but is forced to keep up the ruse because the people would turn on him if he didn't. When the player reaches Asgore in a boss battle, it's clear he really doesn't want to go through with killing the player, but feels [[ShootTheDog he has no choice]].]]
19th Dec '15 2:28:06 PM nombretomado
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* [[VillainProtagonist Wander]], the main character of ''{{Shadow of the Colossus}}'', fits in well with this trope throughout the entire game. While his motives are pure (he wishes to bring his lover back to life), in order to achieve them, he [[DealWithTheDevil makes a pact with a dark god]] (and the dark god warns him of the consequences of his actions and tries to dissuade him from his course) that involves going out into the world and slaying sixteen creatures (the colossi) who, up until his arrival, had lived in peace.

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* [[VillainProtagonist Wander]], the main character of ''{{Shadow ''VideoGame/{{Shadow of the Colossus}}'', fits in well with this trope throughout the entire game. While his motives are pure (he wishes to bring his lover back to life), in order to achieve them, he [[DealWithTheDevil makes a pact with a dark god]] (and the dark god warns him of the consequences of his actions and tries to dissuade him from his course) that involves going out into the world and slaying sixteen creatures (the colossi) who, up until his arrival, had lived in peace.
28th Oct '15 11:43:32 AM FF32
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* [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation Depending on how you play the game,]] ''HeavyRain'''s [[spoiler: Scott Shelby]] counts. [[spoiler: Throughout the game, he saves the HookerWithAHeartOfGold from being beaten by a former client, stops a convenience store robbery, prevents a woman's suicide attempt while also caring for her baby, and brings down a PsychopathicManchild. Oh, and he also goes around drowning kids, all so he can force their fathers to go through {{DeathTrap}}s because he had a terrible childhood.]] Ah, the wonders of GreyAndGrayMorality.

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* [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation Depending on how you play the game,]] ''HeavyRain'''s ''VideoGame/HeavyRain'''s [[spoiler: Scott Shelby]] counts. [[spoiler: Throughout the game, he saves the HookerWithAHeartOfGold from being beaten by a former client, stops a convenience store robbery, prevents a woman's suicide attempt while also caring for her baby, and brings down a PsychopathicManchild. Oh, and he also goes around drowning kids, all so he can force their fathers to go through {{DeathTrap}}s because he had a terrible childhood.]] Ah, the wonders of GreyAndGrayMorality.
10th Oct '15 5:26:17 PM babyhenchy1
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* Big Boss in ''VideoGame/MetalGear2'' probably qualifies as one. When fighting Kyle Schneider, he reveals that Big Boss was the one who saved his resistance from the Outer Heaven bombings commenced by NATO (in case you're wondering why this is notable, it's because Schneider was opposing Big Boss's group, Outer Heaven). His men all follow him, not out of any fear or brainwashing, but because they genuinely love him, as he cares about all of them.

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* Big Boss in ''VideoGame/MetalGear2'' probably qualifies as one. When fighting Kyle Schneider, he reveals that Big Boss was the one who saved his resistance from the Outer Heaven bombings commenced by NATO (in case you're wondering why this is notable, it's because Schneider was opposing Big Boss's group, Outer Heaven). His men all follow him, not out of any fear or brainwashing, but because they genuinely love him, [[AFatherToHisMen as he cares about all of them.them]].
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