History AntiVillain / VideoGames

8th Apr '18 1:14:07 AM LlamaAdventure
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* With the exception of King Dice and the Devil, every boss in ''VideoGame/{{Cuphead}}'' is one of these. While some of them can be jerks, they're all fighting in self-defense against someone trying to take their soul to pay back their debt to the Devil, [[spoiler: and when Cuphead and Mugman defeat the Devil and free their souls, they all congregate to celebrate the duo's victory.]]

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* With the exception of King Dice and the Devil, every boss in ''VideoGame/{{Cuphead}}'' is one of these. While some of them can be jerks, they're all fighting in self-defense against someone trying to take their soul to pay back their debt to the Devil, [[spoiler: and when Cuphead and Mugman defeat the Devil and free destroy their souls, Soul Contracts, freeing them from their debt, they all congregate to celebrate the duo's victory.]]
8th Apr '18 1:12:53 AM LlamaAdventure
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* With the exception of King Dice and the Devil, every boss in ''VideoGame/{{Cuphead}}'' is one of these. While some of them can be jerks, they're all fighting in self-defense against someone trying to take their soul to pay back their debt to the Devil, [[spoiler: and when Cuphead and Mugman defeat the Devil and free their souls, they all congregate to celebrate the duo's victory.]]
5th Apr '18 6:06:23 AM BishopRodan
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** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar'': while it appears that Alvis makes a FaceHeelTurn and kills all of Sigurd's army, he actually has a FreudianExcuse and isn't really that much of a villain, especially considering that [[spoiler: his son is far, far worse.]] He gives Sigurd's son his InfinityPlusOneSword. Yeah, killing him made a real difference...''not.''

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** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar'': while it appears that Alvis Arvis makes a FaceHeelTurn and kills all of Sigurd's army, he actually has a FreudianExcuse and isn't really that much of a villain, especially considering that [[spoiler: his son is far, far worse.]] He gives Sigurd's son his InfinityPlusOneSword.InfinityPlusOneSword, [[spoiler: in what is heavily implied to be a SuicideByCop, as by this point he's crossed the DespairEventHorizon]] . Yeah, killing him made a real difference...''not.''


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** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBindingBlade'': Brunnya, one of Bern's Three Dragon Generals, isn't evil at all and has serious misgivings about Zephiel's mad campaign, but cannot bring herself to turn her back on her country. This is most notably seen when she engages Roy with [[TheRemnant the remnants of Bern's army]] in one of the last chapters of the game. Before the battle, she gives her men ample opportunity to desert the army without punishment if they wish, since it's basically a SuicideMission. When none of her men take her up on the offer, she forcibly sends home any and all soldiers who have children and/or elderly parents.
22nd Mar '18 1:02:01 PM PeppermintTwist
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* Very few of the villains in the ''VisualNovel/ParascientificEscape'' series are truly evil. [[spoiler: Misaki]] was manipulated into committing a crime they regretted, [[spoiler: Tsukiko]] grew up in such horrible conditions they have serious trauma, and [[spoiler: Ritsu,]] though the closest to "evil," was also manipulated by the more ChaoticNeutral [[spoiler: Iori.]]
26th Feb '18 6:51:52 PM nombretomado
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** Also, from SilentHill2, we have [[spoiler: James Sunderland]], murderer and all around sympathetic guy.

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** Also, from SilentHill2, ''VideoGame/SilentHill2'', we have [[spoiler: James Sunderland]], murderer and all around sympathetic guy.
30th Dec '17 3:14:47 PM Dav1994
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* ''VideoGame/PokemonUltraSunAndUltraMoon'' proves how separate they are from VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon by telling [[{{Adaptation Expansion}} a much different story of how]] [[{{UpdatedRerelease}} "This isn't the Alola region you thought you knew...."]] Most ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' villains seek to use Pokémon for their own evil, wicked, cruel, and twisted purposes, but when you face the Aether Foundation President Lusamine, [[spoiler: you'll see how different she is compared to VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon, and find out that she's a perfect example of an AntiVillain this time, and a much nicer one as well, VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite even more than N, with most of her dialogue being much nicer and her motives are more altruistic. For the most part, Lusamine's plans to use Cosmog's power to open the Ultra Wormhole are still the same, which is still a major plot point in the story, but this time, it's for a different purpose; She doesn't care about the Ultra Beasts and letting them run wild in Alola this time. Instead, she's trying to go into the Ultra Wormhole and catch from stealing Alola's light the same way it did to Ultra Megalopolis. For this reason, she recruited the Ultra Recon Squad, four extraterrestrial people from Ultra Megalopolis, to assist her. as they also wish to stop Necrozma through any means necessary. All the while, Lusamine isn't as abusive to her children as she was in VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon, as she only berates them because she felt genuinely betrayed by her own children. When she disowns Lillie for leaving her and stealing Cosmog, she's visibly upset, but not enraged; She genuinely feels hurt and betrayed that, Lillie and Gladion, her own children, took Cosmog and Type: Null, respectively, away from her, then ended up leaving her 3 months.]]
-->'''Lusamine:''' [[spoiler: [[{{Disownment}} Calling me Mother? I don't have any children! Certainly not any wretched children who would run off and reject my love! So tell me how you'll save that Pokémon. What can you do, Lillie?]] [[{{TheReasonYouSuckSpeech}} You failed to convince me to listen to you. You don't even have the strength of a Trainer. The only thing that you've ever done on your own is steal someone else's research material! It's so terribly unattractive.]]]]

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* ''VideoGame/PokemonUltraSunAndUltraMoon'' proves how separate they are from VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon by telling [[{{Adaptation Expansion}} a much different story of how]] [[{{UpdatedRerelease}} "This isn't the Alola region you thought you knew...."]] Most ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' villains seek to use Pokémon for their own evil, wicked, cruel, and twisted purposes, but when you face the Aether Foundation President Lusamine, [[spoiler: you'll see how different she is compared to VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon, and find out that she's a perfect example of an AntiVillain this time, and a much nicer likeable one as well, VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite even more than N, N from VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite, with most of her dialogue being much nicer and her motives are being more altruistic. For the most part, Lusamine's plans to use Cosmog's power to open the Ultra Wormhole are still the same, which is still a major plot point in the story, but this time, it's for a different purpose; She doesn't care about the Ultra Beasts and letting them run wild in Alola this time. Instead, she's trying to go into the Ultra Wormhole and catch stop Necrozma from stealing Alola's light the same way it did to Ultra Megalopolis. For this reason, she recruited the Ultra Recon Squad, four extraterrestrial people from Ultra Megalopolis, to assist her. her, as they also wish to stop Necrozma through any means necessary. All the while, Lusamine isn't as abusive to her children as she was in VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon, as she only berates them because she felt genuinely betrayed by her own children. When she disowns Lillie for leaving her and stealing Cosmog, she's visibly upset, but not enraged; She genuinely feels hurt and betrayed that, Lillie and Gladion, her own children, took Cosmog and Type: Null, respectively, away from her, then ended up leaving her 3 months.]]
-->'''Lusamine:''' [[spoiler: [[{{Disownment}} [[IHaveNoSon Calling me Mother? I don't have any children! Certainly not any wretched children who would run off and reject my love! So tell me how you'll save that Pokémon. What can you do, Lillie?]] [[{{TheReasonYouSuckSpeech}} [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech You failed to convince me to listen to you. You don't even have the strength of a Trainer. The only thing that you've ever done on your own is steal someone else's research material! It's so terribly unattractive.]]]]



-->'''Lusamine:''' [[spoiler: [[{{KnightTemplar}} But know that my fathomless love will save even someone like you... When I protect this entire world from darkness!]]]]
-->'''Lillie:''' [[spoiler: Protect this world...? Mother! What is it you're trying to do?! Is that why you want Nebby? [[{{ArmorPiercingQuestion}} Is that what you would sacrifice Cosmog for?]]]]
-->'''Lusamine:''' [[spoiler: That's right. [[{{WellIntentionedExtremist}} I will force Cosmog to use it's power, and it may very well die.]] [[{{IDidWhatIHadToDo}} But if it will save the world for all of my beloved Pokémon, then that is what I will do.]] (Opens a secret path behind her mirror) [[{{SentimentalSacrifice}} Lillie. I will be using the Cosmog you stole for a great purpose.]] [[{{PettheDog}} You have kept it safe until now, and for that... I thank you.]] (Teleports away to her secret lab.)]]
** When you enter Lusamine's secret lab, it starts to get unsettling, [[{{CollectoroftheStrange}} especially with her "private collection".]]

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-->'''Lusamine:''' [[spoiler: [[{{KnightTemplar}} [[KnightTemplar But know that my fathomless love will save even someone like you... When I protect this entire world from darkness!]]]]
-->'''Lillie:''' [[spoiler: Protect this world...? Mother! What is it you're trying to do?! Is that why you want Nebby? [[{{ArmorPiercingQuestion}} [[ArmorPiercingQuestion Is that what you would sacrifice Cosmog for?]]]]
-->'''Lusamine:''' [[spoiler: That's right. [[{{WellIntentionedExtremist}} [[WellIntentionedExtremist I will force Cosmog to use it's power, and it may very well die.]] [[{{IDidWhatIHadToDo}} [[IDidWhatIHadToDo But if it will save the world for all of my beloved Pokémon, then that is what I will do.]] (Opens a secret path behind her mirror) [[{{SentimentalSacrifice}} [[SentimentalSacrifice Lillie. I will be using the Cosmog you stole for a great purpose.]] [[{{PettheDog}} [[PetTheDog You have kept it safe until now, and for that... I thank you.]] (Teleports away to her secret lab.)]]
** When you enter Lusamine's secret lab, it starts to get unsettling, [[{{CollectoroftheStrange}} [[CollectoroftheStrange especially with her "private collection".]]



-->'''Lusamine:''' [[spoiler: (turns towards the player and Lillie) If you want to see, you'd better hurry. This way. (As they head towards Lusamine, they see ''dozens'' of various Pokémon '''cryogenically frozen''') What do you think? [[{{CollectoroftheStrange}} It's my private collection. My precious babies... They will all be preserved for eternity here.]] [[{{FridgeHorror}} (Even if they can't do anything about it.)]] (Shudders) [[{{FriendToAllLivingThings}} But if the light is stolen from this world, then I won't be able to love my babies any longer.]] [[{{KnightTemplar}} So I will open the Ultra Wormhole and take on the Pokémon that would steal our light...]] [[{{WhamLine}} I will defeat even poor Necrozma!]]]]
** She even tells the exact same feelings to Hau when he and Gladion enter Lusamine's secret lab, along with a more [[spoiler: [[{{CrusadingWidow}} personal reason.]]]]
-->'''Lusamine:''' [[spoiler: Ah. Sweet Hau. So you came, too? [[{{FishOutOfWater}} I knew better than to expect much from the members of the Ultra Recon Squad,]] but really... Couldn't Guzma even stop a few children?]]
** A more heartwarming change in the story is that [[spoiler: [[{{Heartwarming/PokemonUltraSunAndUltraMoon}} Gladion actually considers Lusamine their mother and tries to reason with her this time,]] [[{{PleaseDontLeaveMe}} as he doesn't want to lose their mother]] [[{{NeverBeHurtAgain}} after they already lost their father.]]]]
-->'''Gladion''' [[spoiler: Listen to us, please! Don't open the Ultra Wormhole! [[{{PleaseDontLeaveMe}} We can't lose anyone else...]] [[{{NeverBeHurtAgain}} Not like we lost Father!]]]]
-->'''Lusamine:''' [[spoiler: Do you think I've forgotten?! [[{{CrusadingWidow}} As if I could forget what happened that day... I hate the Ultra Wormhole from the depths of my being.]] [[{{KnightTemplar}} But that is why I will be the one to go! I will not let anyone stop me!]] [[{{WhamLine}} Not even my own daughter and son!]]]]

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-->'''Lusamine:''' [[spoiler: (turns towards the player and Lillie) If you want to see, you'd better hurry. This way. (As they head towards Lusamine, they see ''dozens'' of various Pokémon '''cryogenically frozen''') What do you think? [[{{CollectoroftheStrange}} [[CollectoroftheStrange It's my private collection. My precious babies... They will all be preserved for eternity here.]] [[{{FridgeHorror}} (Even if they can't do anything about it.)]] (Shudders) [[{{FriendToAllLivingThings}} [[FriendToAllLivingThings But if the light is stolen from this world, then I won't be able to love my babies any longer.]] [[{{KnightTemplar}} [[KnightTemplar So I will open the Ultra Wormhole and take on the Pokémon that would steal our light...]] [[{{WhamLine}} [[WhamLine I will defeat even poor Necrozma!]]]]
** She even tells the exact same feelings to Hau when he and Gladion enter Lusamine's secret lab, along with a more [[spoiler: [[{{CrusadingWidow}} [[CrusadingWidow personal reason.]]]]
-->'''Lusamine:''' [[spoiler: Ah. Sweet Hau. So you came, too? [[{{FishOutOfWater}} [[FishOutOfWater I knew better than to expect much from the members of the Ultra Recon Squad,]] but really... Couldn't Guzma even stop a few children?]]
** A more heartwarming change in the story is that [[spoiler: [[{{Heartwarming/PokemonUltraSunAndUltraMoon}} [[Heartwarming/PokemonUltraSunAndUltraMoon Gladion actually considers Lusamine their mother and tries to reason with her this time,]] [[{{PleaseDontLeaveMe}} [[PleaseDontLeaveMe as he doesn't want to lose their mother]] [[{{NeverBeHurtAgain}} [[NeverBeHurtAgain after they already lost their father.]]]]
-->'''Gladion''' [[spoiler: Listen to us, please! Don't open the Ultra Wormhole! [[{{PleaseDontLeaveMe}} [[PleaseDontLeaveMe We can't lose anyone else...]] [[{{NeverBeHurtAgain}} [[NeverBeHurtAgain Not like we lost Father!]]]]
-->'''Lusamine:''' [[spoiler: Do you think I've forgotten?! [[{{CrusadingWidow}} [[CrusadingWidow As if I could forget what happened that day... I hate the Ultra Wormhole from the depths of my being.]] [[{{KnightTemplar}} [[KnightTemplar But that is why I will be the one to go! I will not let anyone stop me!]] [[{{WhamLine}} [[WhamLine Not even my own daughter and son!]]]]



-->'''Lusamine:''' [[spoiler: [[{{Disownment}} Perhaps once we were, Sweet Hau, but those wretches beside you left me.]] [[{{KnightTemplar}} But I will still save them.]] [[{{FriendToAllLivingThings}} With all the endless love of the president of the Aether Foundation,]] [[{{ReasonableAuthorityFigure}} as someone tasked with the protection of all Pokémon.]]]]

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-->'''Lusamine:''' [[spoiler: [[{{Disownment}} [[IHaveNoSon Perhaps once we were, Sweet Hau, but those wretches beside you left me.]] [[{{KnightTemplar}} [[KnightTemplar But I will still save them.]] [[{{FriendToAllLivingThings}} [[FriendToAllLivingThings With all the endless love of the president of the Aether Foundation,]] [[{{ReasonableAuthorityFigure}} [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure as someone tasked with the protection of all Pokémon.]]]]



-->'''Lusamine:''' [[spoiler: Oh? You are trying to resist, aren't you, Cosmog? But why? For Lillie's sake, perhaps? [[{{PettheDog}} How gallant you are... You love Lillie, don't you?]]]]

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-->'''Lusamine:''' [[spoiler: Oh? You are trying to resist, aren't you, Cosmog? But why? For Lillie's sake, perhaps? [[{{PettheDog}} [[{{PetTheDog}} How gallant you are... You love Lillie, don't you?]]]]



-->'''Lusamine:''' [[spoiler: [[{{PettheDog}} Heh heh... Perhaps Gladion and Lillie have both grown up a bit since leaving Aether.]] [[{{MoodWhiplash}} But I still won't allow them to interfere with this.]] [[{{FriendToAllLivingThings}} If I am going to protect the Pokémon of Alola, I must go through the Ultra Wormhole and meet this Necrozma!]] [[{{WellIntentionedExtremist}} I will have Cosmog open the Ultra Wormhole, no matter what. I will use the power of its cage to ensure that it cannot resist any further!]] (Guzma then enters the secret lab) There you are. (Lillie and Gladion express their worry by shaking their heads in disapproval)]]
-->'''Gladion:''' [[spoiler: [[{{PleaseDontLeaveMe}} Mother, if you disappear too-!]]]]

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-->'''Lusamine:''' [[spoiler: [[{{PettheDog}} [[PetTheDog Heh heh... Perhaps Gladion and Lillie have both grown up a bit since leaving Aether.]] [[{{MoodWhiplash}} [[MoodWhiplash But I still won't allow them to interfere with this.]] [[{{FriendToAllLivingThings}} [[FriendToAllLivingThings If I am going to protect the Pokémon of Alola, I must go through the Ultra Wormhole and meet this Necrozma!]] [[{{WellIntentionedExtremist}} [[WellIntentionedExtremist I will have Cosmog open the Ultra Wormhole, no matter what. I will use the power of its cage to ensure that it cannot resist any further!]] (Guzma then enters the secret lab) There you are. (Lillie and Gladion express their worry by shaking their heads in disapproval)]]
-->'''Gladion:''' [[spoiler: [[{{PleaseDontLeaveMe}} [[PleaseDontLeaveME Mother, if you disappear too-!]]]]
25th Dec '17 7:54:33 AM GlacierWolf
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* ''VideoGame/PokemonUltraSunAndUltraMoon'' proves how separate they are from VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon by telling [[{{UpdatedRerelease}} a much different story of how]] [[{{Adaptation Expansion}} "This isn't the Alola region you thought you knew...."]] Most ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' villains seek to use Pokémon for their own evil, wicked, cruel, and twisted purposes, but when you face [[{{ReasonableAuthorityFigure}} the Aether Foundation President Lusamine,]] [[{{AdaptationalPersonalityChange}} you'll see how different she is compared to]] VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon, since she's a perfect example of an AntiVillain this time. For the most part, Lusamine's plans to [[{{WellIntentionedExtremist}} use Cosmog's power to open the Ultra Wormhole]] are still the same, which is still a [[{{TheHeavy}} major plot point in the story]], [[{{DemotedtoDragon}} but this time,]] [[{{AdaptationalHeroism}} it's for more altruistic reasons]]; [[{{AdaptedOut}} She doesn't care about the Ultra Beasts and letting them run wild in Alola this time]], she's trying to go into Ultra Megalopolis and catch [[{{BigBad}} Necrozma]] from stealing Alola's light the same way it did to Ultra Megalopolis'. For this reason, she recruited [[{{HigherTechSpecies}} The Ultra Recon Squad]], [[{{HumanAliens}} four extraterrestrial people from Ultra Megalopolis]], to assist her, [[{{AntiVillain}} as they also wish to stop Necrozma]] [[{{WellIntentionedExtremist}} through any means necessary.]] All the while, Lusamine isn't as abusive to her children as she was in VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon, as she only berates them because [[{{TearJerker}} she felt genuinely betrayed]] ''by her own children.'' When she disowns Lillie for leaving her and stealing Cosmog, she's visibly upset, but not enraged; She genuinely feels hurt and betrayed that, Lillie and Gladion, her own children, took Cosmog and Type: Null, respectively, away from her, then ended up leaving her 3 months.
-->'''Lusamine:''' [[{{Disownment}} Calling me Mother? I don't have any children! Certainly not any wretched children who would run off and reject my love!]] [[{{TheReasonYouSuckSpeech}} So tell me how you'll save that Pokémon. What can you do, Lillie? You failed to convince me to listen to you. You don't even have the strength of a Trainer. The only thing that you've ever done on your own is steal someone else's research material! It's so terribly unattractive.]]

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* ''VideoGame/PokemonUltraSunAndUltraMoon'' proves how separate they are from VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon by telling [[{{UpdatedRerelease}} [[{{Adaptation Expansion}} a much different story of how]] [[{{Adaptation Expansion}} [[{{UpdatedRerelease}} "This isn't the Alola region you thought you knew...."]] Most ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' villains seek to use Pokémon for their own evil, wicked, cruel, and twisted purposes, but when you face [[{{ReasonableAuthorityFigure}} the Aether Foundation President Lusamine,]] [[{{AdaptationalPersonalityChange}} Lusamine, [[spoiler: you'll see how different she is compared to]] to VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon, since and find out that she's a perfect example of an AntiVillain this time. time, and a much nicer one as well, VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite even more than N, with most of her dialogue being much nicer and her motives are more altruistic. For the most part, Lusamine's plans to [[{{WellIntentionedExtremist}} use Cosmog's power to open the Ultra Wormhole]] Wormhole are still the same, which is still a [[{{TheHeavy}} major plot point in the story]], [[{{DemotedtoDragon}} story, but this time,]] [[{{AdaptationalHeroism}} time, it's for more altruistic reasons]]; [[{{AdaptedOut}} a different purpose; She doesn't care about the Ultra Beasts and letting them run wild in Alola this time]], time. Instead, she's trying to go into the Ultra Megalopolis Wormhole and catch [[{{BigBad}} Necrozma]] from stealing Alola's light the same way it did to Ultra Megalopolis'. Megalopolis. For this reason, she recruited [[{{HigherTechSpecies}} The the Ultra Recon Squad]], [[{{HumanAliens}} Squad, four extraterrestrial people from Ultra Megalopolis]], Megalopolis, to assist her, [[{{AntiVillain}} her. as they also wish to stop Necrozma]] [[{{WellIntentionedExtremist}} Necrozma through any means necessary.]] necessary. All the while, Lusamine isn't as abusive to her children as she was in VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon, as she only berates them because [[{{TearJerker}} she felt genuinely betrayed]] ''by betrayed by her own children.'' children. When she disowns Lillie for leaving her and stealing Cosmog, she's visibly upset, but not enraged; She genuinely feels hurt and betrayed that, Lillie and Gladion, her own children, took Cosmog and Type: Null, respectively, away from her, then ended up leaving her 3 months.
months.]]
-->'''Lusamine:''' [[spoiler: [[{{Disownment}} Calling me Mother? I don't have any children! Certainly not any wretched children who would run off and reject my love!]] [[{{TheReasonYouSuckSpeech}} love! So tell me how you'll save that Pokémon. What can you do, Lillie? Lillie?]] [[{{TheReasonYouSuckSpeech}} You failed to convince me to listen to you. You don't even have the strength of a Trainer. The only thing that you've ever done on your own is steal someone else's research material! It's so terribly unattractive.]]]]]]



-->'''Lusamine:''' [[{{KnightTemplar}} But know that my fathomless love will save even someone like you... When I protect this entire world from darkness!]]
-->'''Lillie:''' Protect this world...? Mother! What is it you're trying to do?! Is that why you want Nebby? [[{{ArmorPiercingQuestion}} Is that what you would sacrifice Cosmog for?]]
-->'''Lusamine:''' That's right. [[{{WellIntentionedExtremist}} I will force Cosmog to use it's power, and it may very well die.]] [[{{IDidWhatIHadToDo}} But if it will save the world for all of my beloved Pokémon, then that is what I will do.]] (Opens a secret path behind her mirror) [[{{SentimentalSacrifice}} Lillie. I will be using the Cosmog you stole for a great purpose.]] [[{{PettheDog}} You have kept it safe until now, and for that... I thank you.]] (Teleports away to her secret lab.)

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-->'''Lusamine:''' [[spoiler: [[{{KnightTemplar}} But know that my fathomless love will save even someone like you... When I protect this entire world from darkness!]]
darkness!]]]]
-->'''Lillie:''' [[spoiler: Protect this world...? Mother! What is it you're trying to do?! Is that why you want Nebby? [[{{ArmorPiercingQuestion}} Is that what you would sacrifice Cosmog for?]]
for?]]]]
-->'''Lusamine:''' [[spoiler: That's right. [[{{WellIntentionedExtremist}} I will force Cosmog to use it's power, and it may very well die.]] [[{{IDidWhatIHadToDo}} But if it will save the world for all of my beloved Pokémon, then that is what I will do.]] (Opens a secret path behind her mirror) [[{{SentimentalSacrifice}} Lillie. I will be using the Cosmog you stole for a great purpose.]] [[{{PettheDog}} You have kept it safe until now, and for that... I thank you.]] (Teleports away to her secret lab.))]]



-->'''Lillie:''' (frightened) Wh-what is this place? (looks around worriedly)
-->'''Lusamine:''' (turns towards the player and Lillie) If you want to see, you'd better hurry. This way. (As they head towards Lusamine, they see ''dozens'' of various Pokémon '''cryogenically frozen''') What do you think? [[{{CollectoroftheStrange}} It's my private collection. My precious babies... They will all be preserved for eternity here.]] (''Even if they can't do ''anything'' about it.'') [[{{FridgeHorror}} (Shudders)]] [[{{FriendToAllLivingThings}} But if the light is stolen from this world, then I won't be able to love my babies any longer.]] [[{{KnightTemplar}} So I will open the Ultra Wormhole and take on the Pokémon that would steal our light...]] [[{{WhamLine}} I will defeat even poor Necrozma!]]
** She even tells the exact same feelings to Hau when he and Gladion enter Lusamine's secret lab, along with a more [[{{CrusadingWidow}} personal reason.]]
-->'''Lusamine:''' Ah. Sweet Hau. So you came, too? [[{{FishOutOfWater}} I knew better than to expect much from the members of the Ultra Recon Squad,]] but really... Couldn't Guzma even stop a few children?
** A more heartwarming change in the story is that [[{{Heartwarming/PokemonUltraSunAndUltraMoon}} Gladion actually considers Lusamine their mother and tries to reason with her this time,]] [[{{PleaseDontLeaveMe}} as he doesn't want to lose their mother]] [[{{NeverBeHurtAgain}} after they already lost their father.]]
-->'''Gladion''' Listen to us, please! Don't open the Ultra Wormhole! [[{{PleaseDontLeaveMe}} We can't lose anyone else...]] [[{{NeverBeHurtAgain}} Not like we lost Father!]]
-->'''Lusamine:''' Do you think I've forgotten?! [[{{CrusadingWidow}} As if I could forget what happened that day...]] I hate the Ultra Wormhole from the depths of my being. [[{{KnightTemplar}} But that is why I will be the one to go! I will not let anyone stop me!]] [[{{ActionMom}} Not even my own daughter and son!]]
-->'''Hau:''' What? ''Daughter?'' ''Son?'' (realizing that Lillie, Gladion, and Lusamine are family) Wait! You're all family?! (Lillie turns to face Lusamine wistfully, implying that she still considers Lusamine her mother)
-->'''Lusamine:''' [[{{Disownment}} Perhaps we were, Sweet Hau, but those wretches beside you left me.]] [[{{KnightTemplar}} But I will still save them.]] [[{{FriendToAllLivingThings}} With all the endless love of the president of the Aether Foundation,]] [[{{ReasonableAuthorityFigure}} as someone tasked with the protection of all Pokémon.]]

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-->'''Lillie:''' [[spoiler: (frightened) Wh-what is this place? (looks around worriedly)
worriedly)]]
-->'''Lusamine:''' [[spoiler: (turns towards the player and Lillie) If you want to see, you'd better hurry. This way. (As they head towards Lusamine, they see ''dozens'' of various Pokémon '''cryogenically frozen''') What do you think? [[{{CollectoroftheStrange}} It's my private collection. My precious babies... They will all be preserved for eternity here.]] (''Even [[{{FridgeHorror}} (Even if they can't do ''anything'' anything about it.'') [[{{FridgeHorror}} (Shudders)]] )]] (Shudders) [[{{FriendToAllLivingThings}} But if the light is stolen from this world, then I won't be able to love my babies any longer.]] [[{{KnightTemplar}} So I will open the Ultra Wormhole and take on the Pokémon that would steal our light...]] [[{{WhamLine}} I will defeat even poor Necrozma!]]
Necrozma!]]]]
** She even tells the exact same feelings to Hau when he and Gladion enter Lusamine's secret lab, along with a more [[spoiler: [[{{CrusadingWidow}} personal reason.]]
]]]]
-->'''Lusamine:''' [[spoiler: Ah. Sweet Hau. So you came, too? [[{{FishOutOfWater}} I knew better than to expect much from the members of the Ultra Recon Squad,]] but really... Couldn't Guzma even stop a few children?
children?]]
** A more heartwarming change in the story is that [[spoiler: [[{{Heartwarming/PokemonUltraSunAndUltraMoon}} Gladion actually considers Lusamine their mother and tries to reason with her this time,]] [[{{PleaseDontLeaveMe}} as he doesn't want to lose their mother]] [[{{NeverBeHurtAgain}} after they already lost their father.]]
]]]]
-->'''Gladion''' [[spoiler: Listen to us, please! Don't open the Ultra Wormhole! [[{{PleaseDontLeaveMe}} We can't lose anyone else...]] [[{{NeverBeHurtAgain}} Not like we lost Father!]]
Father!]]]]
-->'''Lusamine:''' [[spoiler: Do you think I've forgotten?! [[{{CrusadingWidow}} As if I could forget what happened that day...]] day... I hate the Ultra Wormhole from the depths of my being. being.]] [[{{KnightTemplar}} But that is why I will be the one to go! I will not let anyone stop me!]] [[{{ActionMom}} [[{{WhamLine}} Not even my own daughter and son!]]
son!]]]]
-->'''Hau:''' [[spoiler: What? ''Daughter?'' ''Son?'' (realizing that Lillie, Gladion, and Lusamine are family) Wait! You're all family?! (Lillie turns to face Lusamine wistfully, implying that she still considers Lusamine her mother)
mother)]]
-->'''Lusamine:''' [[spoiler: [[{{Disownment}} Perhaps once we were, Sweet Hau, but those wretches beside you left me.]] [[{{KnightTemplar}} But I will still save them.]] [[{{FriendToAllLivingThings}} With all the endless love of the president of the Aether Foundation,]] [[{{ReasonableAuthorityFigure}} as someone tasked with the protection of all Pokémon.]]]]]]



-->'''Lusamine:''' Oh? You are trying to resist, aren't you, Cosmog? But why? For Lillie's sake, perhaps? How gallant you are... [[{{PettheDog}} You love Lillie, don't you?]]

to:

-->'''Lusamine:''' [[spoiler: Oh? You are trying to resist, aren't you, Cosmog? But why? For Lillie's sake, perhaps? [[{{PettheDog}} How gallant you are... [[{{PettheDog}} You love Lillie, don't you?]] you?]]]]



-->'''Lusamine:''' [[{{PettheDog}} Heh heh... Perhaps Gladion and Lillie have both grown up a bit since leaving Aether.]] (DeathGlare) [[{{MoodWhiplash}} But I still won't allow them to interfere with this.]] [[{{FriendToAllLivingThings}} If I am going to protect the Pokémon of Alola, I must go through the Ultra Wormhole and meet this Necrozma!]] [[{{WellIntentionedExtremist}} I will have Cosmog open the Ultra Wormhole, no matter what. I will use the power of its cage to ensure that it cannot resist any further!]] (Guzma then enters the secret lab) There you are. [Lillie and Gladion express their worry by shaking their heads in disapproval)
-->'''Gladion:''' [[{{PleaseDontLeaveMe}} Mother, if you disappear too-!]]
-->'''Lusamine:''' ''Now'' you worry for me? Fine, Gladion. [[{{IDidWhatIHadToDo}} I will do what I must to put your worries to rest...]] [[{{PreAssKickingOneLiner}} By demonstrating my strength in battle.]] (looks around) Let's see... (turns to the player) Yes, you. You will battle me. [[{{ReasonableAuthorityFigure}} If I can defeat even you, then that should silence Lillie's last objections as well.]] (Battle Start!)

to:

-->'''Lusamine:''' [[spoiler: [[{{PettheDog}} Heh heh... Perhaps Gladion and Lillie have both grown up a bit since leaving Aether.]] (DeathGlare) [[{{MoodWhiplash}} But I still won't allow them to interfere with this.]] [[{{FriendToAllLivingThings}} If I am going to protect the Pokémon of Alola, I must go through the Ultra Wormhole and meet this Necrozma!]] [[{{WellIntentionedExtremist}} I will have Cosmog open the Ultra Wormhole, no matter what. I will use the power of its cage to ensure that it cannot resist any further!]] (Guzma then enters the secret lab) There you are. [Lillie (Lillie and Gladion express their worry by shaking their heads in disapproval)
disapproval)]]
-->'''Gladion:''' [[spoiler: [[{{PleaseDontLeaveMe}} Mother, if you disappear too-!]]
too-!]]]]
-->'''Lusamine:''' ''Now'' [[spoiler: Now you worry for me? Fine, Gladion. [[{{IDidWhatIHadToDo}} I will do what I must to put your worries to rest...]] [[{{PreAssKickingOneLiner}} rest... [[{{IDidWhatIHadToDo}} By demonstrating my strength in battle.]] (looks around) Let's see... (turns to the player) Yes, you. You will battle me. [[{{ReasonableAuthorityFigure}} [[{{PreAssKickingOneLiner}} If I can defeat even you, then that should silence Lillie's last objections as well.]] (Battle Start!)(You are challenged by [[{{ReasonableAuthorityFigure}} Aether President Lusamine!]])]]
** [[spoiler: And she actually proves to be quite the challenge, [[{{BadassAdorable}} with all of her Pokémon]] [[{{AuthorityEqualsAsskicking}} having maxed IVs, ideal Natures and ideal EVs to match them.]] But if you beat her, [[{{GracefulLoser}} she takes it quite lightly, showing she's not much of a sore loser this time as well.]]]]
-->'''Lusamine:''' [[spoiler: Heh heh heh... [[{{WorthyOpponent}} Oh, you are strong.]] [[{{CombatCompliment}} You should carry on with your island challenge.]]]]
22nd Dec '17 6:40:14 PM Thatguy62
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*** Bowser's son, [[OverlordJr Bowser Jr.]], might be a straighter example. Whilst his interactions with the rest of the Koopa Troop is limited, most of Junior's villainy is a result of him [[WellDoneSonGuy trying to make Bowser proud]] (despite his father already being proud of him). ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam'' in particular, has him and his paper counterpart steal the book containing [[VideoGame/PaperMario Paper Mario's]] world just so [[IJustWantToHaveFriends they won't be seperated]].
22nd Dec '17 1:49:09 PM GlacierWolf
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-->'''Lusamine:''' ''Now'' you worry for me? Fine, Gladion. [[{{IDidWhatIHadToDo}} I will do what I must to put your worries to rest...]] [[{{PreAssKickingOneLiner}} By demonstrating my strength in battle.]] (Llooks around) Let's see... (turns to the player) Yes, you. You will battle. [[{{ReasonableAuthorityFigure}} If I can defeat even you, then that should silence Lillie's last objections as well.]] (Battle Start!)

to:

-->'''Lusamine:''' ''Now'' you worry for me? Fine, Gladion. [[{{IDidWhatIHadToDo}} I will do what I must to put your worries to rest...]] [[{{PreAssKickingOneLiner}} By demonstrating my strength in battle.]] (Llooks (looks around) Let's see... (turns to the player) Yes, you. You will battle.battle me. [[{{ReasonableAuthorityFigure}} If I can defeat even you, then that should silence Lillie's last objections as well.]] (Battle Start!)
22nd Dec '17 1:48:24 PM GlacierWolf
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-->'''Lusamine:''' ''Now'' you worry for me? Fine, Gladion. [[{{IDidWhatIHadToDo}} I will do what I must to put your worries to rest...]]

to:

-->'''Lusamine:''' ''Now'' you worry for me? Fine, Gladion. [[{{IDidWhatIHadToDo}} I will do what I must to put your worries to rest...]]]] [[{{PreAssKickingOneLiner}} By demonstrating my strength in battle.]] (Llooks around) Let's see... (turns to the player) Yes, you. You will battle. [[{{ReasonableAuthorityFigure}} If I can defeat even you, then that should silence Lillie's last objections as well.]] (Battle Start!)
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