History AntiVillain / VideoGames

14th Sep '17 5:30:24 AM TantaMonty
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* Juri from the [[Videeogma/StreetFighter Street Fighter]] series. While she is a [[AxCrazy psychopathic killer]], in both games she appears in she is actively working to take down [[BiggerBad Seth and M. Bison]], going so far as to save Cammy and Decapre, [[EnemyMine two people she hates]], in Street Fighter V, for no personal benefit.

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* Juri from the [[Videeogma/StreetFighter [[Videogame/StreetFighter Street Fighter]] series. While she is a [[AxCrazy psychopathic killer]], in both games she appears in she is actively working to take down [[BiggerBad Seth and M. Bison]], going so far as to save Cammy and Decapre, [[EnemyMine two people she hates]], in Street Fighter V, for no personal benefit.
14th Sep '17 5:29:52 AM TantaMonty
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* Juri from the [[Videeogma/StreetFighter Street Fighter]] series. While she is a [[AxCrazy psychopathic killer]], in both games she appears in she is actively working to take down [[BiggerBad Seth and M. Bison]], going so far as to save Cammy and Decapre, [[EnemyMine two people she hates]], in Street Fighter V, for no personal benefit.
12th Aug '17 10:18:06 PM Samothrace42
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* [[spoiler:Ashur]] from ''The Pitt'' DLC of ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}''. Based on what you hear and learn about him as the story goes on, he seems like a textbook EvilOverlord. Then you meet him yourself, and find out that [[spoiler:he's a more honest and fair-minded ruler than expected, who genuinely cares about his city and family, and claims to take no pleasure in his use of slaves and intends to release all of them once the mutation cure can be distributed.]] His alleged[[WellIntentionedExtremist good intentions]] are compromised by the fact that [[spoiler:Ashur's]] main servants are unrestrained [[AlwaysChaoticEvil Raiders]] and [[spoiler:the squalor, pain and horror his slaves live in and offering them false hope in a chance for freedom by fighting to the death, against overwhelming odds, for his servant's amusement.]]
** Also, to some degree, [[TheDragon Colonel Autumn]]. While he seems to be just as ruthless as his superior, in the last encounter, he reveals that [[spoiler:he intends to use the water purifier to bring water to the local population, and that he did everything to prevent [[PresidentEvil President Eden]]'s planned total genocide from occuring.]]
*** [[PresidentEvil President Eden]] himself could also count, as he genuinely believe his own PR and thinks that what he is doing is for the good of the people. He has heroic goals (restoring humanity/America and providing the whole world with food/clean water/safety) but has been misled to [[spoiler:believe the only way to achieve this is to "purify" the world by wiping out all strains of mutation by killing anyone mutated.]] He is arguable redeemable if [[spoiler:your speech is high enough that you can convince him he is making a huge mistake, and he will listen to you]].
** The best example was probably TheMaster from the original Fallout. He wants to forcibly turn every living human on the planet into super mutants, however, he has a very good reason. He believes that humans will just tear themselves apart fighting unless they are all one race, which you can't really argue with since you live in a nuclear wasteland precisely because humans fought, and because he believes super mutants are better at surviving, which, once again, is really solid because they are stronger than humans and are completely immune to radiation. He also holds no ill will against humans as a whole; in his new world order, humans would be allowed to live the rest of their lives safe and under the protection of his army, though he wouldn't allow them to breed. However, you can reveal to him that this plan won't work because his mutants are sterile (and not very bright), and he'll do something few other villains ever do: realize his plan won't work and just stop. That's it, not even a fight. He'll realize that everything he thought he was doing for the greater good was actually not good for anyone, and will be so stricken with grief upon realizing this that he'll kill himself and destroy the mutant army. [[TearJerker It's sad, really, as he's probably the most sympathetic character in the entire game.]]

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* [[spoiler:Ashur]] [[spoiler:Lord Ishmael Ashur]] from ''The Pitt'' DLC of ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}''. Based on what you hear and learn about him as the story goes on, he seems like a textbook EvilOverlord. Then you meet him yourself, and find out that [[spoiler:he's a more honest and fair-minded ruler than expected, who genuinely cares about his city and family, and claims to take no pleasure in his use of slaves and intends to release all of them once the mutation cure can be distributed.]] His alleged[[WellIntentionedExtremist alleged [[WellIntentionedExtremist good intentions]] (he wants to [[spoiler: revitalize the steel industry in the Pitt so as to recreate the intercontinental railroads and finally re-link the West & East Coasts of the U.S.]]) are compromised by the fact that [[spoiler:Ashur's]] main servants are unrestrained [[AlwaysChaoticEvil Raiders]] and (since they're portrayed as the only people who would willingly go into [[DeathWorld the Pitt]] to work for him); [[spoiler:the squalor, pain and horror his slaves live in is utterly miserable; and offering he can only offer them false hope in a chance for freedom by fighting to the death, against overwhelming odds, for his servant's amusement.]]
** Also, to some degree, [[TheDragon Colonel Autumn]]. While he seems to be just as ruthless as his superior, in the last encounter, he reveals that [[spoiler:he intends to use the water purifier to bring water to the local population, and that he did everything to prevent [[PresidentEvil President Eden]]'s planned total genocide from occuring.occurring.]]
*** [[PresidentEvil [[BigBad President Eden]] himself could also count, as he genuinely believe believes his own PR and thinks that what he is doing is for the good of the people. He has heroic goals (restoring humanity/America and providing the whole world with food/clean water/safety) but has been misled to [[spoiler:believe the only way to achieve this is to "purify" the world by both wiping out all strains of mutation by killing anyone mutated.mutated and enslaving the survivors for rebuilding America.]] He is arguable redeemable if [[spoiler:your speech Speech is high enough that you can convince him he is making a huge mistake, and he will listen to you]].
** The best example was probably TheMaster from the original Fallout.VideoGame/Fallout1. He wants to forcibly turn every living human on the planet into super mutants, however, he has a very good reason. He believes that humans will just tear themselves apart fighting unless they are all one race, which you can't really argue with since you live in a nuclear wasteland precisely because humans fought, and because he believes super mutants are better at surviving, which, once again, is really solid because they are stronger than humans and are completely immune to radiation. He also holds no ill will against humans as a whole; in his new world order, humans would be allowed to live the rest of their lives safe and under the protection of his army, though he wouldn't allow them to breed. However, you can reveal to him that this plan won't work because his mutants are sterile (and not very bright), and he'll do something few other villains ever do: realize his plan won't work and just stop. That's it, not even a fight. He'll realize that everything he thought he was doing for the greater good was actually not good for anyone, and will be so stricken with grief upon realizing this that he'll kill himself and destroy the mutant army. [[TearJerker It's sad, really, as he's probably the most sympathetic character in the entire game.]]



** The Courier can be another rare playable example if you support Caesar's Legion but maintain good or neutral karma, allowing you to be a Type I, III or IV. You may be a nice guy but you're supporting a regime where all women are enslaved or subject to forced breeding (basically rape), gays, the elderly and sick are exterminated and their leader, despite shades of well intentioned extremism, has peaceful towns wiped out over personal grudges.
** Mr. House can be seen as this for New Vegas. On the one hand, he wants to be the sole dictator of New Vegas and the Mojave and in his ending [[spoiler:uses his Securitron army to enforce tight order on the territory.]] On the other, his reasoning is that the democracy and values of the Old World were what led to nuclear war to begin with, and his intent is to use the funds to better mankind through advancing technology, convinced that only he is capable of doing this. Depending on the player's worldview, he/she may be inclined to agree.

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** *** The Courier can be another rare playable example if you support Caesar's Legion but maintain good or neutral karma, allowing you to be a Type I, III or IV. You may be a nice guy but you're supporting a regime where all women are enslaved or subject to forced breeding (basically rape), gays, the elderly and sick are exterminated and their leader, despite shades of well intentioned extremism, has peaceful towns wiped out over personal grudges.
** *** Mr. House can be seen as this for New Vegas. On the one hand, he wants to be the sole dictator of New Vegas and the Mojave and in his ending [[spoiler:uses his Securitron army to enforce tight order on the territory.]] On the other, his reasoning is that the democracy and values of the Old World were what led to nuclear war to begin with, and his intent is to use the funds to better mankind through advancing technology, convinced that only he is capable of doing this. Depending on the player's worldview, he/she may be inclined to agree.agree.
** ''VideoGame/Fallout4'' continues the series’ proud tradition of Anti-Villains with [[TheConspiracy the Institute]], who are the main antagonists of the game (or at least the closest, since the game is chock full of [[GreyAndGrayMorality Grey and Gray Morality]]). Descended from the staff of the Commonwealth Institute of Technology (the Falloutverse’s counterpart to M.I.T.), they’re a cabal of {{Mad Scientist}}s living far below the surface of the [[CrapsackWorld Commonwealth]] that create [[RidiculouslyHumanRobots Synths]], {{Artificial Humans}} used for both slave labor and the [[ManipulativeBastard subtle control of the surface]]. While the Institute has committed numerous crimes against humanity and are quite [[FantasticRacism Fantastically Racist towards Synths]], one still can’t help but have some sympathy for them. For one, the vast majority of the Institute’s inhabitants are actually [[PunchClockVillain incredibly friendly hard-working scientists]] who genuinely think their work is making the world a better place. Relatedly, most Institute residents are [[TheMasquerade kept in the dark]] about the various nightmares the organization’s leadership has perpetuated, and are [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone appropriately horrified]] when they’re made public. There’s also numerous Institute scientists who are shown [[InternalReformist to be trying to help put the organization on a more positive path]] - most notably, [[spoiler: Liam Binet]]/[[CodeName “Patriot”]] (the [[UndergroundRailroad Railroad’s]] [[TheMole Mole]] in the Institute), [[EstablishingCharacterMoment whose first scene has them arguing]] that [[DoAndroidsDream Synths are self-aware due to their ability to dream]]. The Institute also is, to be fair, [[CutLexLuthorACheck one of the most advanced factions in the entire series]], being able to easily create {{Artificial Humans}} and are actively advancing science and technology (some scientists mention how the Institute has not only re-invented the transistor - [[AlternateHistory \transistors in the Falloutverse weren’t invented until the mid-2060s, and they were then mostly forgotten to history]] - but that the Institute is planning on researching ''dark matter'') while most other factions are still struggling with [[FutureImperfect regaining past knowledge]]. They also are fully planning on sharing their incredibly advanced technology with the world above, but feel that [[TheWorldIsNotReady the Commonwealth’s not able to accept it]], and are [[VisionaryVillain actively trying to shape the region into a society]] that they think will actually be able to ‘’handle’’ their tech and not destroy themselves like the Old World did with the Great War.
*** If the player [[GreyAndGrayMorality chooses to see]] the [[AbsoluteXenophobe East Coast Brotherhood of Steel]] as villains, than it's possible to see their leader - [[RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething Elder]] [[NobleBigot Arthur]] [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure Maxson]] - as an Anti-Villain. Despite his {{Fantastic Racism}} and [[PrinciplesZealot zealotry towards the Brotherhood's Codex]], Maxson comes across as a well-intentioned young leader [[AChildShallLeadThem thrust into a situation]] he was ''not'' ready for (he became his chapter's Elder at the age of ''16''), but is [[AFatherToHisMen determined to his best at keeping everyone under his command alive]]. Most notably, while he's colder towards Wastelands than his predecessor [[VideoGame/Fallout3 Owyn Lyons]] was, he still claims that the Brotherhood is in the Commonwealth to ''protect'' the native Wastelanders from the various mutants and Synths of the region. True to his word, Brotherhood patrols are (unless [[PlayerCharacter the Sole Survivor]] joins the Institute [[spoiler:or the Railroad]]) one of the few peaceful random encounters in the Commonwealth, and are often seen defending Wastelanders from cannibalistic Super Mutants and hordes of Feral Ghouls.
12th Aug '17 1:39:10 AM CrowsAndButterflies
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** Yanni Yogi from the first game counts as this as he [[spoiler: attacked Miles' father]] in a panicked state, and has to [[spoiler: pretend he's insane, which caused his wife to commit suicide.]]
30th Jul '17 12:00:57 AM Nicoaln
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* As it turns out, [[spoiler: Brian Westhouse]] in ''VideoGame/DreamfallChapters'' just believed he was [[spoiler: protecting Stark from Chaos that unstabilises things, and just wants to go home.]] The fact that he [[spoiler: was alright with the Azadi committing genocide]] was a mere afterthought and, in their mind, an acceptable sacrifice.
25th Jul '17 9:52:56 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemEchoes'' introduces Berkut, who is the epitome of this trope. He believes that he should be the rightful ruler of all of Valentia, but as the game goes on, his continuing defeats lead him down a darker path. It is implied before his slide that he is respected by many in the kingdom and that he would in fact make a good ruler. However once [[spoiler: Alm is revealed to be the true heir to the Rigelian throne,]] Berkut loses it and his penultimate acts include [[spoiler: sacrificing his girlfriend to a mad god and attempting to kill his cousin for being heir to the throne. After his defeat, as he is dying he reveals he holds no anger towards Alm and encourages him to stop Duma before it is too late.]]

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** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemEchoes'' introduces Berkut, who is the epitome of this trope.Berkut. He believes that he should be the rightful ruler of all of Valentia, but as the game goes on, his continuing defeats lead him down a darker path. It is implied before his slide that he is respected by many in the kingdom and that he would in fact make a good ruler. However once [[spoiler: Alm is revealed to be the true heir to the Rigelian throne,]] Berkut loses it and his penultimate acts include [[spoiler: sacrificing his girlfriend to a mad god and attempting to kill his cousin for being heir to the throne. After his defeat, as he is dying he reveals he holds no anger towards Alm and encourages him to stop Duma before it is too late.]]
25th Jul '17 9:50:02 AM ForceOfSonic19
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** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemEchoes'' introduces Berkut, who is the epitome of this trope. He believes that he should be the rightful ruler of all of Valentia, but as the game goes on, his continuing defeats lead him down a darker path. It is implied before his slide that he is respected by many in the kingdom and that he would in fact make a good ruler. However once [[spoiler: Alm is revealed to be the true heir to the Rigelian throne,]] Berkut loses it and his penultimate acts include [[spoiler: sacrificing his girlfriend to a mad god and attempting to kill his cousin for being heir to the throne. After his defeat, as he is dying he reveals he holds no anger towards Alm and encourages him to stop Duma before it is too late.]]
11th Jul '17 5:17:41 PM CaptainJJC
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** Doomfist also fits this trope. His beliefs align with social darwinism, and despite being a leader of the terrorist organization Talon, his ultimate goal is to make humanity stronger. In order to achieve this, he plans on plunging the world into another great conflict through Talon. Overwatch is all that stands in his way.
5th Jul '17 5:46:57 AM SpinAttaxx
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* N. Brio acts as this in ''VideoGame/CrashBandicoot2CortexStrikesBack''. He sends much of the game's enemies (including bosses Ripper Roo, the Komodo Brothers, and Tiny Tiger) after Crash to kill him before he collects all the Crystals for [[BigBad Dr. Cortex]], but also implores him to collect the Gems (which he uses in the TrueEnding to blow up the Cortex Vortex) if he truly cares about saving the world.
3rd Jul '17 11:17:55 PM HarpieSiren
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* [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds Count Bleck]] from ''VideoGame/SuperPaperMario''. How many {{Big Bad}}s do you know who treat their minions like family? Even if his goals [[SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum aren't exactly heroic]], that doesn't detract from his {{Woobie}} status.
** To a lesser extent, Bowser himself qualifies as this in some games (like ''[[VideoGame/PaperMario SPM]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/SuperMarioRPG SMRPG]]'').

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* ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros.
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[[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds Count Bleck]] from ''VideoGame/SuperPaperMario''. How many {{Big Bad}}s do you know who treat their minions like family? Even if his goals [[SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum aren't exactly heroic]], that doesn't detract from his {{Woobie}} status.
** To a lesser extent, Bowser himself qualifies as this in some games (like ''[[VideoGame/PaperMario SPM]]'' qualifies. He's shown to be a loving father, all his minions adore him, and ''[[VideoGame/SuperMarioRPG SMRPG]]'').he's helped saved the world multiple times. Sure, those times were because he couldn't take over a world that doesn't exist, but he helped none the less.
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