History AntiVillain / LiveActionTV

16th Aug '17 7:28:06 PM DoctorCooper
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** A non-Luthor example would also be Major/General Zod, in an interesting twist as he's essentially simultainiously given AdaptationalHeroism ''and'' AdaptationalVillainy. He ultimately just wants peace, justice, and freedom for the Kryptonians, is a FatherToHisMen, respects Kal-El/Clark and still holds his former best friend Jor-El in high regard, and while he leads a ruthless coup, he's motivated by the fact his family was killed in the destruction of Kandor, and his plea to clone his son was rejected, pushing him over the edge. However, unlike most depictions, he was almost successful in taking over Krypton, and when he learnt his cause was lost, he decided to destabalize Krypton's core and, essentially, is the one responsible for its destruction. Ultimately, he's just trying to cope with the death of his son, [[{{Understatement}} but doesn't do it in a healthy means]].

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** A non-Luthor example would also be Major/General Zod, in an interesting twist as he's essentially simultainiously given AdaptationalHeroism ''and'' AdaptationalVillainy. He ultimately just wants peace, justice, and freedom for the Kryptonians, is a FatherToHisMen, respects Kal-El/Clark and still holds his former best friend Jor-El in high regard, and while he leads a ruthless coup, he's motivated by the fact his family was killed in the destruction of Kandor, and his plea to clone his son was rejected, pushing him over the edge. However, unlike most depictions, he was almost successful in taking over Krypton, and when he learnt his cause was lost, he decided to destabalize Krypton's core and, essentially, is the one responsible for its destruction. Ultimately, he's just trying to cope with the death of his son, [[{{Understatement}} but doesn't do it in a healthy means]].means.
14th Aug '17 9:23:18 AM Gregzilla
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** Season 3 gives us Daphne Millbrook, a professional thief who works for and with other villains, but is clearly disgusted by most of them, never kills anyone herself, and is eventually revealed to [[spoiler: have been working with Pinehearst because its leader would otherwise take away her superspeed, which is the only thing stopping her from being crippled by cerebral palsy]]. Most of her villainy seems to have been born of guilt and self-loathing for how she treated her father and (especially) her dying mother. When Matt helps her come to terms with her past and reunite with her father, she does a HeelFaceTurn and literally helps save the world. [[spoiler: Unfortunately, Daphne is shot while attempting to rescue specials kidnapped by [[TheHunter Emile Danko]], who later [[MoralEventHorizon removes her from the medical facility]], thus causing her wound to become septic and, ultimately, fatal.]]

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** Season 3 gives us Daphne Millbrook, a professional thief who works for and with other villains, but is clearly disgusted by most of them, never kills anyone herself, and is eventually revealed to [[spoiler: have been working with Pinehearst because its leader would otherwise take away her superspeed, which is the only thing stopping her from being crippled by cerebral palsy]]. Most of her villainy seems to have been born of guilt and self-loathing for how she treated her father and (especially) her dying mother. When Matt helps her come to terms with her past and reunite with her father, she does a HeelFaceTurn and literally helps save the world. [[spoiler: Unfortunately, Daphne is shot while attempting to rescue specials kidnapped by [[TheHunter [[CapeBusters Emile Danko]], who later [[MoralEventHorizon removes her from the medical facility]], thus causing her wound to become septic and, ultimately, fatal.]]



* The Argent family on ''Series/TeenWolf''. While their side occupation as [[TheHunter werewolf hunters]] was originally motivated by [[MugglePower protecting humans from werewolves]], it has developed into [[VanHelsingHateCrimes full-blown sadism]]. They are willing and eager to kill werewolves whether they actually pose a threat to anybody or not. The family and their fellow hunters have also expanded their crusade to cover killing any humans associated with werewolves (such as the non-wolf members of the Hale family) or who simply impede their hunting activities. They have also developed a fondness for inspiring fear, and seem to enjoy torturing their targets before killing them. In order for Gerard Argent to take over as principal of the Beacon Hills high school, the Argent's abducted and tortured the current principal, who was wholly unaware of werewolves, just to create a vacancy in the position.

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* The Argent family on ''Series/TeenWolf''. While their side occupation as [[TheHunter [[HunterOfMonsters werewolf hunters]] was originally motivated by [[MugglePower protecting humans from werewolves]], it has developed into [[VanHelsingHateCrimes full-blown sadism]]. They are willing and eager to kill werewolves whether they actually pose a threat to anybody or not. The family and their fellow hunters have also expanded their crusade to cover killing any humans associated with werewolves (such as the non-wolf members of the Hale family) or who simply impede their hunting activities. They have also developed a fondness for inspiring fear, and seem to enjoy torturing their targets before killing them. In order for Gerard Argent to take over as principal of the Beacon Hills high school, the Argent's abducted and tortured the current principal, who was wholly unaware of werewolves, just to create a vacancy in the position.
6th Aug '17 1:15:14 PM gb00393
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** Jaime is a man who doesn't hesitate to kill for his own benefit but does possess some sympathetic traits like a BigBrotherInstinct.

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** Jaime Jaime's characterization in the first two seasons. He is a man who doesn't hesitate to kill a child or a kinsman for his own benefit but does possess some sympathetic traits like a BigBrotherInstinct.
6th Aug '17 1:15:14 PM gb00393
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24th Jun '17 7:18:33 PM nombretomado
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* Enos from ''Series/DukesOfHazzard'' is only really a villain by virtue of being an upstanding deputy sheriff and on the side of the Law, and thus antagonistic to our less law-abiding heroes. While he is willing to stand behind most of his corrupt boss' schemes, he is too righteous to be a part of them. He is the one lawman the Dukes have any respect for, and they have said as much in public.

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* Enos from ''Series/DukesOfHazzard'' ''Series/TheDukesOfHazzard'' is only really a villain by virtue of being an upstanding deputy sheriff and on the side of the Law, and thus antagonistic to our less law-abiding heroes. While he is willing to stand behind most of his corrupt boss' schemes, he is too righteous to be a part of them. He is the one lawman the Dukes have any respect for, and they have said as much in public.
22nd Jun '17 7:17:34 AM gb00393
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** The Smalljon doesn't seem particularly fond of the Boltons (on the contrary, it's evident he despises them). His primary motivation is protecting the North from Wildling invasions.
16th Jun '17 6:26:57 AM gb00393
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** Rickard Karstark, of the WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds variety. His villainy is the result of his grief over the deaths of his sons.
24th May '17 10:53:04 PM Nithael
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* On ''Series/{{The 100}}'', ''everyone'' is just doing what they believe is necessary to keep their people alive; while our protagonists are usually more sympathetic than their antagonists, [[GreyAndGrayMorality they all have good reasons for doing the things they do]]. Except Murphy; [[{{Jerkass}} he's just a prick.]]
** Even Murphy gets better as the show goes on.
* Arguably, Babe Carey, from All My Children, circa 2003-2007. She never wants to do bad things and is usually, in some way, pushed into doing the wrong thing (for the right reasons) because of the effects of others' actions. She doesn't want to be bad and, in ideal circumstances, she would even be good. She strives and wants to be good. However, she is not strong enough to rise against her circumstances.

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* On ''Series/{{The 100}}'', ''everyone'' is just doing what they believe is necessary to keep their people alive; while our protagonists are usually more sympathetic than their antagonists, [[GreyAndGrayMorality they all have good reasons for doing the things they do]]. Except Murphy; Even Murphy, who started as [[{{Jerkass}} he's just a prick.]]
** Even Murphy
an asshole who only cared about himself]], gets better as the show goes on.
on until the point where he is willing to risk his life for others.
* Arguably, Babe Carey, from All My Children, ''Series/AllMyChildren'', circa 2003-2007. She never wants to do bad things and is usually, in some way, pushed into doing the wrong thing (for the right reasons) because of the effects of others' actions. She doesn't want to be bad and, in ideal circumstances, she would even be good. She strives and wants to be good. However, she is not strong enough to rise against her circumstances.
22nd May '17 3:25:37 PM Winters15
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** Even Murphy gets better as the show goes on.
22nd May '17 5:05:19 AM LinTaylor
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** ''Series/KamenRiderGaim'' has its fair share of these. Both [[spoiler:Micchy]] and [[spoiler:Kaito]] are anti-villains. The former is willing and thinks he has to go to great extremes to keep the girl he loves happy, even if it means manipulating all of his friends and allying with villains, while the latter wants to create a world in which the strong and powerful no longer oppress the weak, but at the cost of destroying the current world. Roshuo is another example, as he keeps the power capable of saving humanity to himself, fearing humanity would follow the same path his own species did once they get their hands on said power.

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** ''Series/KamenRiderGaim'' has its fair share of these. Both [[spoiler:Micchy]] these, most of them filling the position of BigBad during various arcs:
*** Takatora Kureshima, AKA Armored Rider Zangetsu, who's the major antagonist at the outset of the series. In particular, he [[CurbStompBattle curb-stomps]] protagonist Kouta so badly that the poor kid spends a whole episode too terrified to leave his room. Shortly into the show, we're told that his corporation plans on [[spoiler:sacrificing the majority of humanity in order to fight the Forest of Helheim]]. However, not long after that we learn the truth: [[spoiler:Takatora is actually a noble person, but his corporation can only save about one-seventh of humanity at best, so he's forcing himself to be ruthless in order to carry it out. When Kouta discovers new information that could potentially save everyone, Takatora gladly joins forces with him
and [[spoiler:Kaito]] are anti-villains. The former is willing and thinks he has switches from Anti-Villain to go to great extremes to keep straight-up Hero.]]
*** [[spoiler:Micchy (Armored Rider Ryugen)]] [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope does a flying swan-dive off
the girl he loves happy, even if it means manipulating all slippery slope]], becoming a long-term antagonist because of his friends love for one person and allying his desire to save her. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, he makes a lot of terrible decisions and gets manipulated by more ruthless people in pursuit of that goal, and by the final arc he's reduced to a weeping shell of a man. However, the final episode gives him a chance at redemption, which he gladly takes.]]
*** [[spoiler:Kaito (Armored Rider Baron)]] flip-flops between AntiHero and Anti-Villain several times over the course of the series, as his goals alternately coincide and clash
with villains, while the latter heroes'. [[spoiler:In the end, he's just a guy who had a terrible childhood and wants to create a world in which where the strong and powerful no longer can't oppress the weak, but at so nobody will have to go through what he did.]]
*** [[spoiler:Roshuo, leader of
the cost of destroying the current world. Roshuo Overlords]] is another example, as example; he has a power that could potentially save humanity, but keeps the power it to himself because he doesn't believe they're capable of saving using it responsibly. [[spoiler:He does eventually hand it over after DJ Sagara calls him out, saying humans deserve a fair chance. In the end, Roshuo just wanted to be reunited with his wife and was manipulated by others because of it, but he dies hoping that humanity to himself, fearing humanity would follow the same path will succeed where his own species did once they get their hands on said power.people failed.]]
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