History Anime / Robotech

7th May '17 3:03:47 AM dvorak
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* AdaptationExpansion: The novel adaptation by Jack Mckinney has quite a bit, including a prolouge featuring an attack on a Robotech Master outpost by the Invid, and explaining that the Super Dimension Fortress derives its name from the fact that [[YearInsideHourOutside time inside moves 1/24th the speed of time outside]].

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* AdaptationExpansion: The novel adaptation by Jack Mckinney has quite a bit, including a prolouge featuring an attack on a Robotech Master outpost by the Invid, and explaining that the Super Dimension Fortress derives its name from the fact that [[YearInsideHourOutside time inside moves 1/24th the speed of time outside]]. It also gives Veritech fighters an UnusualUserInterface of a psionic pickup in the helmet, requiring Battloid mode to be partially commanded by thought.
2nd May '17 12:56:00 AM dvorak
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* AdaptationExpansion: The novel adaptation by Jack Mckinney has quite a bit, including a prolouge featuring an attack on a Robotech Master outpost by the Invid, and explaining that the Super Dimension Fortress derives its name from the fact that [[YearInsideHourOutside time inside moves 1/24th the speed of time outside]].
2nd May '17 12:48:54 AM dvorak
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* The Artifact: Just ''why'' is the ship called the "Super Dimension Fortress" anyways?

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* The Artifact: TheArtifact: Just ''why'' is the ship called the "Super Dimension Fortress" anyways?
2nd May '17 12:46:13 AM dvorak
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* The Artifact: Just ''why'' is the ship called the "Super Dimension Fortress" anyways?
29th Apr '17 2:42:29 PM FuzzyWulfe
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*** Doubles as a NiceJobBreakingItHerod moment. The only reason the barrier overloaded is because Khyron ignored communications saying that the barrier was building up to critical mass due to the sheer amount of firepower being thrown at it all at once. He wanted the glory of capturing the SDF-1 for the Zentraedi Armada.
29th Apr '17 2:35:39 PM FuzzyWulfe
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*** In the novels, this is even worse. The citizens of Macross Island survived because they had already evacuated to the bunkers, which were sealed. The Daedalus and Prometheus were regular supercarriers only intended for sea combat. When Gloval orders them to be pulled in and connected to the SDF-1, part of those orders are to collect the bodies of the crews for burial, catalogue their supplies, and retrofit them for use in space.
21st Apr '17 6:45:51 PM PurpleWarrior13
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This show is also where a lot of now-popular anime voice actors got their starts, including Creator/WendeeLee, Creator/RichardEpcar, Creator/TonyOliver, Creator/BarbaraGoodson, and Creator/CamClarke.
13th Apr '17 12:12:54 PM Rabid_Southern_Cross_Fan
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* Harmony Gold can continue to release the original ''Robotech'' stories, and can also release the original ''Macross'' and ''Southern Cross'' in the US, but cannot create derivative works based on either for film or TV. However, they can still create merchandise featuring the characters, including books and comic books.
* However, they ''can'' create derivative content based on ''Mospeada'', which was wholly owned by Tatsunoko in the first place. Consequently Harmony Gold's more recent sequels, most notably the original feature-length film ''WesternAnimation/RobotechTheShadowChronicles'', are all set in or after the part of the Robotech timeline drawn from ''Mospeada''. References to the characters or events from the ''Macross'' or ''Masters'' seasons are [[WritingAroundTrademarks subtle at best]].

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* Harmony Gold can continue to release the original ''Robotech'' stories, and can also release the original ''Macross'' and ''Southern Cross'' in the US, but cannot create derivative works based on either it for film or TV. However, they can still create merchandise featuring the characters, including books and comic books.
* However, they ''can'' create derivative content based on ''Mospeada'', ''Mospeada'' and ''Southern Cross'', which was are both wholly owned by Tatsunoko in the first place. Consequently Harmony Gold's more recent sequels, most notably the original feature-length film ''WesternAnimation/RobotechTheShadowChronicles'', are all set in or after the part of the Robotech timeline drawn from ''Mospeada''. References to the characters or events from the ''Macross'' or ''Masters'' seasons are [[WritingAroundTrademarks subtle at best]].
13th Apr '17 2:14:00 AM MarkLungo
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** The first and most obvious one being the "mystery of the invisible SDF-2". The reason? [[spoiler: In the Masters section there's 3 mounds which in Robotech are supposed to represent the ruins of the SDF-1 and Khyron's ship that crashed into it, inside which is found the Flower of Life which is supposed to be the source of Protoculture. Basically they had to make up the SDF-2 to account for the third mound, and had it that Lisa Hayes was to be its commander. No such ship appears in the original ''Macross''(yet. An SDF-2 (the ''Megaroad'') would come up later), so we don't see it in the Macross Saga footage.]]

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** The first and most obvious one being the "mystery of the invisible SDF-2". The reason? [[spoiler: In the Masters section there's 3 mounds which in Robotech ''Robotech'' are supposed to represent the ruins of the SDF-1 and Khyron's ship that crashed into it, inside which is found the Flower of Life which is supposed to be the source of Protoculture. Basically they had to make up the SDF-2 to account for the third mound, and had it that Lisa Hayes was to be its commander. No such ship appears in the original ''Macross''(yet.''Macross'' (yet. An SDF-2 (the ''Megaroad'') would come up later), so we don't see it in the Macross Saga footage.]]



** Why, when they come across Zor Prime, do they act surprised when they analyze him and find out he's human? (Never mind shoehorning in "and not just a micronized Zentraedi" so as to point out their alleged familiarity with HumanAliens- surely the races are so similar as to be practically the same species, as they can interbreed?) Maybe the fact that the original ''Southern Cross'' character, actually was a (brainwashed) human, Seifriet Weisse.
** Why cities such as New York (complete with famous RealLife theatre) exist in ''The New Generation'' series when [[spoiler: the Earth got nuked by the Zentraedi and they barely managed to rebuild before being invaded again by both the Masters and then the Invid? (Maybe because there were no Zentraedi, or Masters, in Mospeada).]]

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** Why, when they come across Zor Prime, do they act surprised when they analyze him and find out he's human? (Never mind shoehorning in "and not just a micronized Zentraedi" so as to point out their alleged familiarity with HumanAliens- surely HumanAliens--surely the races are so similar as to be practically the same species, as they can interbreed?) Maybe the fact that the original ''Southern Cross'' character, actually was a (brainwashed) human, Seifriet Weisse.
** Why cities such as New York UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity (complete with famous RealLife theatre) exist in ''The New Generation'' series when [[spoiler: the Earth got nuked by the Zentraedi and they barely managed to rebuild before being invaded again by both the Masters and then the Invid? (Maybe because there were no Zentraedi, or Masters, in Mospeada).''Mospeada'').]]



* AllJustADream: A nightmare by Rick Hunter in the original series spans the whole episode where he is hospitalized, focusing on if he should continue to love Minmei. Rand and Ariel also have one in New Generation.

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* AllJustADream: A nightmare by Rick Hunter in the original series spans the whole episode where he is hospitalized, focusing on if he should continue to love Minmei. Rand and Ariel also have one in New Generation.''New Generation''.



* AncientAstronauts: Wildstorm's version of Minmei's [[ShowWithinAShow big film]], "Little White Dragon", made it explicit that the giants were actual Zentraedi stranded on Earth. The posters claim it was [[VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory 'based on a true story']] -- and the stinger has Dolza telling Breetai about [[RealAfterAll a lost recon vessel that sent a distress signal from Earth about a thousand years ago...]]
* AnimationBump: The sections of the Sentinels movie set on Tyrol are better drawn and rendered than the sections on or around Earth. This is because they are the earliest footage, from back when the Japanese animation team was allowed creative control over the story. CarlMacek believed that the lead director was intending to repurpose the footage as an independent series (the original story centered on Rem, Jack and Karen) for release in Japan. Macek started by having extremely detailed scripts for every episode written by himself or Ardwright Chamberlin, neither of whom had any experience writing or directing original animation. The lackluster scripts, in addition to a pissed-off animation crew, lead to the subpar animation that followed.

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* AncientAstronauts: Wildstorm's version of Minmei's [[ShowWithinAShow big film]], "Little ''Little White Dragon", Dragon'', made it explicit that the giants were actual Zentraedi stranded on Earth. The posters claim it was [[VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory 'based on a true story']] -- and the stinger has Dolza telling Breetai about [[RealAfterAll a lost recon vessel that sent a distress signal from Earth about a thousand years ago...]]
* AnimationBump: The sections of the Sentinels movie set on Tyrol are better drawn and rendered than the sections on or around Earth. This is because they are the earliest footage, from back when the Japanese animation team was allowed creative control over the story. CarlMacek Creator/CarlMacek believed that the lead director was intending to repurpose the footage as an independent series (the original story centered on Rem, Jack and Karen) for release in Japan. Macek started by having extremely detailed scripts for every episode written by himself or Ardwright Chamberlin, neither of whom had any experience writing or directing original animation. The lackluster scripts, in addition to a pissed-off animation crew, lead to the subpar animation that followed.
13th Apr '17 2:01:09 AM MarkLungo
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* In addition, they effectively have veto rights for the imports and English translation of ''Macross'' merchandise and series that are not covered by the original license. Consequently, all ''Macross'' productions with the exception of the original series, ''Anime/MacrossPlus'' and ''Anime/MacrossII: Lovers Again'' [[note]]the latter two were "snuck in" by LA Hero under Harmony Gold's radar at a time when their TV production and licensing divisions were badly savaged by a "headhunting" raid by Haim Saban. By the time HG could have contested it, it was too late.[[/note]] are blocked from being sold or translated in North America, and under Harmony Gold's interpretation, ShojiKawamori cannot make or distribute his own drawings and designs within North America. This has not made them popular.

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* In addition, they effectively have veto rights for the imports and English translation of ''Macross'' merchandise and series that are not covered by the original license. Consequently, all ''Macross'' productions with the exception of the original series, ''Anime/MacrossPlus'' and ''Anime/MacrossII: Lovers Again'' [[note]]the latter two were "snuck in" by LA Hero under Harmony Gold's radar at a time when their TV production and licensing divisions were badly savaged by a "headhunting" raid by Haim Saban. By the time HG could have contested it, it was too late.[[/note]] are blocked from being sold or translated in North America, and under Harmony Gold's interpretation, ShojiKawamori Creator/ShojiKawamori cannot make or distribute his own drawings and designs within North America. This has not made them popular.
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