History Anime / MobileSuitGundamZZ

11th Apr '17 9:20:24 AM Golondrina
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* LesCollaborateurs: When Neo-Zeon arrives on Earth, the Federation's top leaders bend over and join them at a party, trying to cut the best deal they can with their new spacenoid overlords. Leina [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech calls them out on this]].



* LaResistance:
** The AEUG, sorta. After ''Zeta'' they had the theoretical support of the [[TheFederation Earth Federation]], but by that point the Federation didn't have much support to ''give'', so they're still largely on their own against [[TheEmpire Neo Zeon]].
** The Blue Team are freedom fighters trying to kick the "French" (their word for the Earth Federation, ItMakesSenseInContext) [[OccupiersOutOfOurCountry out of Africa]].



* LesCollaborateurs: When Neo-Zeon arrives on Earth, the Federation's top leaders bend over and join them at a party, trying to cut the best deal they can with their new spacenoid overlords. Leina [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech calls them out on this]].


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* LaResistance:
** The AEUG, sorta. After ''Zeta'' they had the theoretical support of the [[TheFederation Earth Federation]], but by that point the Federation didn't have much support to ''give'', so they're still largely on their own against [[TheEmpire Neo Zeon]].
** The Blue Team are freedom fighters trying to kick the "French" (their word for the Earth Federation, ItMakesSenseInContext) [[OccupiersOutOfOurCountry out of Africa]].
8th Apr '17 10:50:28 PM DarkHunter
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* SpellMyNameWithAnS: Worse than most Franchise/{{Gundam}} series, due to its lack of official English translation. The worst offender is Elpeo/Elpie Ple/Puru. Supposedly, her official Japanese-English rendition of Elpeo Ple is a play on the name of a magazine featuring small girls called L People (ie., [[DontExplainTheJoke change the spacing in her name and it becomes El People]]). ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamUnicorn Gundam Unicorn]]'' seems to have cleared this up: her name is pronounced "Elpie Pull" in English. Fitting, as it retains the pun. The spelling remains a bit contentious (as some advocate leaving it "Elpeo Ple" to match sources, while others want to just straight up spell it "Elpie Pull" for the sake of clarity). ''Three decades'' of fandom inertia for "Puru" doesn't help matters, either.

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* SpellMyNameWithAnS: Worse than most Franchise/{{Gundam}} series, due to its initial lack of an official English translation. The worst offender is Elpeo/Elpie Ple/Puru. Supposedly, her official Japanese-English rendition of Elpeo Ple is a play on the name of a magazine featuring small girls called L People (ie., [[DontExplainTheJoke change the spacing in her name and it becomes El People]]). ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamUnicorn Gundam Unicorn]]'' seems to have cleared this up: her name is pronounced "Elpie Pull" in English. Fitting, as it retains the pun. The spelling remains a bit contentious (as some advocate leaving it "Elpeo Ple" to match sources, while others want to just straight up spell it "Elpie Pull" for the sake of clarity). ''Three decades'' of fandom inertia for "Puru" doesn't help matters, either.
16th Mar '17 10:55:33 PM KyleJacobs
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* GutPunch: The first half episodes of the show skews heavily towards comedy and slapstick, with ridiculous villains like Mashymyre and Chara that pose no real threat. Then Mashymyre gets PutOnABus and [[spoiler: Cecilia's HeroicSacrifice kills Gottn and strands Chara on the moon]], and the series immediately reverts to the regular Gundam heavy war drama.
3rd Mar '17 11:30:18 PM DarkHunter
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* {{BFG}}: The ZZ's double-barreled suit-powered beam rifle certainly counts.
** Then there's also its Hi-Mega Cannon, which is arguably the most powerful suit-mounted beam weapon ever used by a Gundam (or possibly any mobile suit period) in the Universal Century. Its power is about the same as the ones carried by battleships, or more.
* {{BFS}}: The ZZ's hyper beam sabers; both in size (as long as the Gundam itself) and in power.
** Suffice to say, the ZZ is rather [[IncrediblyLamePun big]] on lots of things...

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* {{BFG}}: The ZZ's double-barreled suit-powered beam rifle certainly counts.
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counts. Then there's also its Hi-Mega Cannon, which is arguably the most powerful suit-mounted beam weapon ever used by a Gundam (or possibly any mobile suit period) in the Universal Century. Its power is about the same as the ones carried by battleships, or more.
* {{BFS}}: The ZZ's hyper beam sabers; both in size (as long as the Gundam itself) and in power.
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power. Suffice to say, the ZZ is rather [[IncrediblyLamePun big]] on lots of things...



* BirdRun: Ple does this.

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* BirdRun: Ple does this.this while running around in Axis.



* [[spoiler:EnemyCivilWar: Glemy Toto's coup against Haman.]]

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* [[spoiler:EnemyCivilWar: Glemy Toto's EnemyCivilWar: [[spoiler:Glemy Toto starts a coup against Haman.Haman in the last stages of the story, which proves to be Neo-Zeon's undoing.]]



** Oh, and Judau also ends up with Roux, who is 17 years old.



** [[spoiler: It's not so much that the main body of the Federation didn't care but rather they were physically too weak to take on Neo Zeon. It is probably important to note that the AEUG is technically a faction within the Federation.]]



* GambitPileup: Judau's infiltration of Axis to rescue Leina becomes an outright circus once Ple, Beecher and Mondo, and Glemmy all set off their own plans in complete ignorance of each other. [[HilarityEnsues In complete ignorance of sanity, too.]]

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* GambitPileup: GambitPileup:
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Judau's infiltration of Axis to rescue Leina becomes an outright circus once Ple, Beecher and Mondo, and Glemmy all set off their own plans in complete ignorance of each other. [[HilarityEnsues In complete ignorance of sanity, too.]]



* GenkiGirl: Elpeo Ple.

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* %%* GenkiGirl: Elpeo Ple.



* GoGoEnslavement: Leina Ashta gets this treatment from Glemmy. Considerably creepier since she's ''ten''.
** Note that he wasn't dressing her up in fetish clothing, just fancy dresses of the sort a high-class girl would be expected to wear, so not ''quite'' as creepy as it sounds.

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* GoGoEnslavement: Leina Ashta gets this treatment from Glemmy. Considerably creepier since she's ''ten''.
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''ten''. Note that he wasn't dressing her up in fetish clothing, just fancy dresses of the sort a high-class girl would be expected to wear, so not ''quite'' as creepy as it sounds.



* VideoGame/GundamVsSeries: Judau, the Ples, and their respective MS were included in ''Gundam vs. Zeta Gundam'' as extras; as a result, MarthDebutedInSmashBros came into effect when ''[=GvZ=]'' was brought to America. The crossover games have featured Judau (in both the regular ZZ and Full Armor version), Haman (in her Qubeley), Elpe Ple (in her Qubeley Mk-II), Ple-Two (in her Mk-II and as a boss in both the Psyco Gundam Mk-II and Queen Mansa), and Mashmyre (in the Hamma Hamma in ''Gundam vs. Gundam Next'' and the Zaku III Kai in ''Extreme Vs.''), while ''Full Boost'' added Roux's Zeta and Elle's Gundam Mk-II as {{DLC}}. To the fandom's chagrin, the series' representative map in the ''Extreme Vs.'' sub-series is Moon-Moon.



* HumongousMecha: Mandatory in a ''Gundam'' series.
** TransformingMecha

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* %%* HumongousMecha: Mandatory in a ''Gundam'' series.
** TransformingMecha
series.



* UsefulNotes/{{Islam}}: In one scene in episode #31, a [[SurprisinglyGoodForeignLanguage surprisingly accurate]] Islamic call to prayer is heard and the locals follow the call (kneel and start to pray, although it can't be heard).



* KnightOfCerebus: A weird case with Cecilia. She herself is a fairly good person at heart, but the story arc dealing with her is the point when the series stops fooling around and starts to be a serious tale [[AlasPoorScrappy by killing her off]] along with the series' GoldfishPoopGang. The worst thing? ''None'' of the main characters know about it.
** Actually Judau does know after watching the whole thing ''and'' trying to stop her from doing so -- but apparently, he keeps quiet about it afterward. (Considering that Cecilia was a sort-of love interest for Torres, though, can you blame him?)
*** Haman also counts since the show becomes darker when she enters the scene.
* LaResistance: The AEUG, sorta. After ''Zeta'' they had the theoretical support of the [[TheFederation Earth Federation]], but by that point the Federation didn't have much support to ''give'', so they're still largely on their own against [[TheEmpire Neo Zeon]].

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* KnightOfCerebus: KnightOfCerebus:
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A weird case with Cecilia. She herself is a fairly good person at heart, but the story arc dealing with her is the point when the series stops fooling around and starts to be a serious tale [[AlasPoorScrappy by killing her off]] along with the series' GoldfishPoopGang. The worst thing? ''None'' of the main characters know about it.
** Actually Judau does know after watching the whole thing ''and'' trying to stop her from doing so -- but apparently, he
it (except Judau, who keeps quiet about it afterward. (Considering that Cecilia was a sort-of love interest for Torres, though, can you blame him?)
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it).
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Haman Karn also counts since the show becomes darker when she enters the scene.
tends to make things a lot more serious whenever she's on-screen... provided it isn't one of Cello's self-indulgent imaginings of her, that is.
* LaResistance: LaResistance:
**
The AEUG, sorta. After ''Zeta'' they had the theoretical support of the [[TheFederation Earth Federation]], but by that point the Federation didn't have much support to ''give'', so they're still largely on their own against [[TheEmpire Neo Zeon]].



* MacrossMissileMassacre: Gundam ZZ can accomplish this, as can certain Neo-Zeon mecha (especially the Zssa, which is basically a walking block of missile launchers).

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* MacrossMissileMassacre: MacrossMissileMassacre:
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Gundam ZZ can accomplish this, as can certain Neo-Zeon mecha (especially the Zssa, which is basically a walking block of missile launchers).



** The minor ones are ''all over the place''.



* [[spoiler: PassingTheTorch]]: [[spoiler: Captain Bright leaves Beecher in command of Nahel Argama, and later departs in the launch for logistical reasons. He isn't remotely surprised or displeased when the Gundam Team steal the ship; at this point, they can use it better than the AEUG hierarchy could.]]

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* [[spoiler: PassingTheTorch]]: PassingTheTorch: [[spoiler: Captain Bright leaves Beecher in command of Nahel Argama, and later departs in the launch for logistical reasons. He isn't remotely surprised or displeased when the Gundam Team steal the ship; at this point, they can use it better than the AEUG hierarchy could.]]



* PsychicPowers: Newtypes, naturally.

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* %%* PsychicPowers: Newtypes, naturally.



* ScunthorpeProblem: Judau's surname is "Ashita", which has created some problems on forums such as [=GameFAQs=]. Apparently Bandai got around this by removing the I from the official translation.

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* ScunthorpeProblem: Judau's surname is "Ashita", which has created some problems on forums such as [=GameFAQs=]. Apparently Bandai got around this by removing the I "i" from the official translation.



* ShrinkingViolet: Torres' old friend Cecilia.
* ShutUpHannibal: Haman tries to get Judau to join her. He refuses even though "she smells nice".

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* %%* ShrinkingViolet: Torres' old friend Cecilia.
* ShutUpHannibal: ShutUpHannibal:
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Haman tries to get Judau to join her. He refuses even though "she smells nice".



* SpellMyNameWithAnS: Worse than most Franchise/{{Gundam}} series, due to its lack of official English translation. The worst offender is Elpeo/Elpie Ple/Puru. Supposedly, her official Japanese-English rendition of Elpeo Ple is a play on the name of a magazine featuring small girls called L People (ie., [[DontExplainTheJoke change the spacing in her name and it becomes El People]]), but some people don't consider this enough of a counterbalance to the fact that that name looks wrong in English. And just try ''saying'' [[TheUnpronounceable Ple]] (remember, the e is ''still silent'').
** ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamUnicorn Gundam Unicorn]]'' seems to have cleared this up: her name is pronounced "Elpie Pull" in English. Fitting, as it retains the pun. The spelling remains a bit contentious (as some advocate leaving it "Elpeo Ple" to match sources, while others want to just straight up spell it "Elpie Pull" for the sake of clarity). ''Three decades'' of fandom inertia for "Puru" doesn't help matters, either.
*** [[MeaningfulName It's also fitting]], in that "Pull" is what they shout when they launch targets in front of skeet shooters, reflecting how utterly expendable the poor girls are.
* TheStarscream: [[spoiler: Glemmy Toto]]

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* SpellMyNameWithAnS: Worse than most Franchise/{{Gundam}} series, due to its lack of official English translation. The worst offender is Elpeo/Elpie Ple/Puru. Supposedly, her official Japanese-English rendition of Elpeo Ple is a play on the name of a magazine featuring small girls called L People (ie., [[DontExplainTheJoke change the spacing in her name and it becomes El People]]), but some people don't consider this enough of a counterbalance to the fact that that name looks wrong in English. And just try ''saying'' [[TheUnpronounceable Ple]] (remember, the e is ''still silent'').
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People]]). ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamUnicorn Gundam Unicorn]]'' seems to have cleared this up: her name is pronounced "Elpie Pull" in English. Fitting, as it retains the pun. The spelling remains a bit contentious (as some advocate leaving it "Elpeo Ple" to match sources, while others want to just straight up spell it "Elpie Pull" for the sake of clarity). ''Three decades'' of fandom inertia for "Puru" doesn't help matters, either.
*** [[MeaningfulName It's also fitting]], in that "Pull" is what they shout when they launch targets in front of skeet shooters, reflecting how utterly expendable the poor girls are.
*
%%* TheStarscream: [[spoiler: Glemmy Toto]]



** The weird thing is, you can see someone who looks just like him in [[spoiler: the background of the last scene when everyone's saying goodbye to Judau.]]
* SuperRobot in a RealRobot world: As with most Franchise/{{Gundam}} series, though ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ Gundam ZZ]]'' leans more toward SuperRobot than most UC series do.



* ThisIsReality: The ''opening theme song'' is "Anime Ja Nai!", meaning "It's Not a Cartoon".
** Probably meant to be ironic, since ZZ was, prior to the creation of ''[[Anime/MobileFighterGGundam G Gundam]]'', the absolute cartooniest entry in the Gundam saga.
*** Probably a bit of LampshadeHanging too.
*** It was actually, according to Tomino, a shot at Zeta Gundam which he felt was over the top serious. [[SarcasmMode That's not going to cause a shitstorm in the fandom.]]

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* ThisIsReality: The ''opening theme song'' is "Anime Ja Nai!", meaning "It's Not a Cartoon".
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Cartoon". Probably meant to be ironic, since ZZ was, prior to the creation of ''[[Anime/MobileFighterGGundam G Gundam]]'', the absolute cartooniest entry in the Gundam saga.
*** Probably a bit of LampshadeHanging too.
*** It was actually, according to Tomino, a shot at Zeta Gundam which he felt was over the top serious. [[SarcasmMode That's not going to cause a shitstorm in the fandom.]]
saga.



* TroubledButCute: Both Ple's.
* {{Tsundere}}: Elle Vianno.
* TykeBomb: The Ple's again.

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* %%* TroubledButCute: Both Ple's.
* %%* {{Tsundere}}: Elle Vianno.
* %%* TykeBomb: The Ple's again.



* WholesomeCrossdresser: Judau and Iino have to do this in an attempt to infiltrate Tigerbaum. Results in a CrowningMomentOfFunny when Judau is turned away because he's "ugly," and subsequently pretends to cry about it.
** Iino, [[AttractiveBentGender on the other hand...]]

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* WholesomeCrossdresser: Judau and Iino have to do this in an attempt to infiltrate Tigerbaum. Results in a CrowningMomentOfFunny when Judau is turned away because he's "ugly," and subsequently pretends to cry about it.
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it. Iino, [[AttractiveBentGender on the other hand...]]
26th Feb '17 3:41:40 AM simonscot
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''Gundam ZZ'' was also one of the mainstay titles of the UC Gundams when it comes to ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'', though it's starting to fall behind, as it hasn't been in a game since ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsAlpha Alpha 3]]''. During the announcement of ''VideoGame/{{Super Robot Wars Z}}2'', Terada let it slip that Bandai and Sunrise have something big in mind for ZZ, but what exactly this is is not known. As it turns out, ZZ made its triumphant return in ''Super Robot Wars OE'' (though with OE's episodic nature, ZZ only joins in near the middle), letting the SRW fans know it still has a place in Banpresto's hearts.

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''Gundam ZZ'' was also one of the mainstay titles of the UC Gundams when it comes to ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'', though it's starting to fall behind, as it hasn't been in a game since ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsAlpha Alpha 3]]''. During the announcement of ''VideoGame/{{Super Robot Wars Z}}2'', Terada let it slip that Bandai and Sunrise have something big in mind for ZZ, but what exactly this is is not known. As it turns out, ZZ made its triumphant return in ''Super Robot Wars OE'' (though with OE's episodic nature, ZZ only joins in near the middle), letting the SRW fans know it still has a place in Banpresto's hearts.
hearts. It later made another comeback in ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsV''
12th Aug '16 12:11:37 AM DarkHunter
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Gundam ZZ is currently not being legally streamed. It will be getting a more formal, "official" release through [[http://www.rightstuf.com/site/main/news/individual/index-ForumThreadName=FT0000007457&Offset=0&ReturnTo=Archive.html RightStuf International]] on DVD in the future.

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Gundam ZZ is currently not being legally streamed. It will be getting a more formal, "official" release through [[http://www.rightstuf.com/site/main/news/individual/index-ForumThreadName=FT0000007457&Offset=0&ReturnTo=Archive.html RightStuf International]] streamed, but it is available on DVD in the future.
subtitled DVD's from Rightstuf.
5th Jul '16 5:45:48 AM dangerdan97
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* AntiVillain: Mashymre Cello and Kyara Soon.

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* AntiVillain: Mashymre Mashmyre Cello and Kyara Chara Soon.
5th Jul '16 5:43:32 AM dangerdan97
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* HeelFaceRevolvingDoor: Beecha and Mondo

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* HeelFaceRevolvingDoor: Beecha and MondoMondo. It's not often you see ThoseTwoGuys ''also'' serve as ThoseTwoBadGuys.
17th Jun '16 11:16:15 PM Hoofbites
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* TheCavalryArrivesLate: [[spoiler: Occurs in the final episode, with the AEUG and Federation fleets arriving shortly after Haman [[DrivenToSuicide has killed herself]] and the Nahel Argama crew has narrowly secured Judau's escape from Moussa. Judau is ''not'' pleased in the least.]]
29th May '16 12:06:21 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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* StealthPun: Double Zeta's upper body is formed from a space fighter called the Core [[ZZTop Top]].

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* StealthPun: Double Zeta's upper body is formed from a space fighter called the Core [[ZZTop [[Music/ZZTop Top]].
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