%%!!Fellow tropers: TVTropes is a wiki dedicated to compiling ''story and character tropes'', not attesting your fiery hatred for every single aspect of a particular show. So before you add yet another complaint about ''Gundam SEED Destiny'', take a closer look at the list; aren't there enough complaints already? Complaining isn't going to make the show better. Instead, why don't you just pour yourself some chocolate milk, pop a few anti-depressants, and re-watch ''{{Gundam SEED}}'' or another ''{{Gundam}}'' series of your choice until your crippling rage subsides.!!

''Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Destiny'' is the sequel to the ''MobileSuitGundamSEED'' anime series. It is the tenth televised series in the [[LongRunner long-running]] ''{{Gundam}}'' franchise and the second to be set in the Cosmic Era AlternateUniverse. ''Destiny'' has some thematic ties to ''ZetaGundam'', similar to the relationship between ''GundamSEED'' and ''MobileSuitGundam'' (though less pronounced that ''SEED'''s pseudo-remake status); these include ''SEED'' characters, now OlderAndWiser, reappearing in ''Destiny'', and a very similar RomanceArc in ''Destiny'' and ''Zeta''.

''Destiny'' takes place two years after the end of ''SEED'', and follows the story of Shinn Asuka, a young [[BornWinner Coordinator]] and ZAFT pilot. A surprise attack on a ZAFT military base and the subsequent {{Gundamjack}}ing of three of ZAFT's new SuperPrototype Gundams kicks off a sequence of events that results in a second full-scale war between ZAFT and the Earth Alliance. However, things are not as clear-cut as they seem at first, and questions arise over which side of the conflict is really in the right. About halfway through the series, much of the cast from ''GundamSEED'' returns to the spotlight, and the series gradually shifts to their POV, considerably changing the tone of the series.

While ''Gundam SEED Destiny'' was wildly popular in Japan, the reaction among English-speaking audiences was much less positive. This largely spawns from the mid-show POV-shift, with Western fans typically preferring Shinn to Kira, and feeling that the latter "stole" the show from the former, while Japanese fans are more fond of Kira and thus much more forgiving of the shift. Some displeased fans take this to extreme levels, and the series has a vocal {{Hatedom}}. This has since died down some since the inclusion of ''MobileSuitGundam00''. It has its own sidestory in ''CE.73 Stargazer''.

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%%!!Fellow tropers: TVTropes is a wiki dedicated to compiling ''story and character tropes'', not attesting your fiery hatred for every single aspect of a particular show. So before you add yet another complaint about ''Gundam SEED Destiny'', take a closer look at the list; aren't there enough complaints already? Complaining isn't going to make the show better. Instead, why don't you just pour yourself some chocolate milk, pop a few anti-depressants, and re-watch ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeed Gundam SEED]]'' or another ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' series of your choice until your crippling rage subsides.!!

''Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Destiny'' is the sequel to the ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED'' anime series. It is the tenth televised series in the [[LongRunner long-running]] ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' franchise and the second to be set in the Cosmic Era AlternateUniverse. ''Destiny'' has some thematic ties to ''[[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Zeta Gundam]]'', similar to the relationship between ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED Gundam SEED]]'' and ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'' (though less pronounced that ''SEED'''s pseudo-remake status); these include ''SEED'' characters, now OlderAndWiser, reappearing in ''Destiny'', and a very similar RomanceArc in ''Destiny'' and ''Zeta''.

''Destiny'' takes place two years after the end of ''SEED'', and follows the story of Shinn Asuka, a young [[BornWinner Coordinator]] and ZAFT pilot. A surprise attack on a ZAFT military base and the subsequent {{Gundamjack}}ing of three of ZAFT's new SuperPrototype Gundams kicks off a sequence of events that results in a second full-scale war between ZAFT and the Earth Alliance. However, things are not as clear-cut as they seem at first, and questions arise over which side of the conflict is really in the right. About halfway through the series, much of the cast from ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED Gundam SEED]]'' returns to the spotlight, and the series gradually shifts to their POV, considerably changing the tone of the series.

While ''Gundam SEED Destiny'' was wildly popular in Japan, the reaction among English-speaking audiences was much less positive. This largely spawns from the mid-show POV-shift, with Western fans typically preferring Shinn to Kira, and feeling that the latter "stole" the show from the former, while Japanese fans are more fond of Kira and thus much more forgiving of the shift. Some displeased fans take this to extreme levels, and the series has a vocal {{Hatedom}}. This has since died down some since the inclusion of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00''. It has its own sidestory in ''CE.73 Stargazer''.

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** Many of the mecha designs are based on mobile suits from earlier Gundam shows. The Impulse has quite a few similarities to the [[MobileSuitGundam RX-78-2 Gundam]], what with being a CombiningMecha consisting of legs as one section, upper body as another, and SpaceFighter[=/=]MetaMecha cockpit as the torso, and a very similar red-with-gold-cross design for its shield. The ZAKU, GOUF, and DOM aren't even subtle about it, using the ''same names'' as their ''MobileSuitGundam'' counterparts (with [[FunWithAcronyms added acronyms]]). The Akatsuki, Destroy Gundam, and BABI are also very similar to ''ZetaGundam'''s Hyaku-Shiki, Psyco Gundam, and Hambrabi, respectively.
** Since they were already reusing GOUF and ZAKU, they couldn't resist having Heine (in a GOUF) use Ramba Ral's classic "This is no Zaku, boy! No Zaku!" line from ''MobileSuitGundam''. The battle between Heine and Stella in general is very similar, down to ''camera angles'' in some instances.
** In reference to ''MobileSuitGundam'''s Kai Shiden making a cameo appearance in ''ZetaGundam'' as an investigative reporter, Miriallia (a character from ''GundamSeed'') first shows up in ''Destiny'' as a photojournalist. The two characters are otherwise completely dissimilar.
** At one point, they used a piece of stock footage from ''GundamSeed'''s Strike Gundam in place of the Impulse. Since it was nearly a FreezeFrameBonus, it's ''generally'' assumed to be an in-joke by the staff rather than a genuine mistake.

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** Many of the mecha designs are based on mobile suits from earlier Gundam shows. The Impulse has quite a few similarities to the [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam RX-78-2 Gundam]], what with being a CombiningMecha consisting of legs as one section, upper body as another, and SpaceFighter[=/=]MetaMecha cockpit as the torso, and a very similar red-with-gold-cross design for its shield. The ZAKU, GOUF, and DOM aren't even subtle about it, using the ''same names'' as their ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'' counterparts (with [[FunWithAcronyms added acronyms]]). The Akatsuki, Destroy Gundam, and BABI are also very similar to ''[[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Zeta Gundam]]'''s Hyaku-Shiki, Psyco Gundam, and Hambrabi, respectively.
** Since they were already reusing GOUF and ZAKU, they couldn't resist having Heine (in a GOUF) use Ramba Ral's classic "This is no Zaku, boy! No Zaku!" line from ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam''. The battle between Heine and Stella in general is very similar, down to ''camera angles'' in some instances.
** In reference to ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'''s Kai Shiden making a cameo appearance in ''[[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Zeta Gundam]]'' as an investigative reporter, Miriallia (a character from ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeed Gundam SEED]]'') first shows up in ''Destiny'' as a photojournalist. The two characters are otherwise completely dissimilar.
** At one point, they used a piece of stock footage from ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeed Gundam SEED]]'''s Strike Gundam in place of the Impulse. Since it was nearly a FreezeFrameBonus, it's ''generally'' assumed to be an in-joke by the staff rather than a genuine mistake.

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17th Apr '13 7:39:28 PM AmbarSonofDeshar

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cutting the author avatar bit since it's fan speculation (make that fan accusation) and never confirmed in interview or anything of the like.

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14th Apr '13 8:53:30 PM TARDISman85

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