History Anime / GraveOfTheFireflies

14th Feb '16 9:55:19 AM PF
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* MementoMacguffin: Averted with the ring that belonged to the children’s mother, which makes one appearance in the film and then is never seen again. Played straighter with their father’s photo, though.
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* MementoMacguffin: MementoMacGuffin: Averted with the ring that belonged to the children’s mother, which makes one appearance in the film and then is never seen again. Played straighter with their father’s photo, though.
14th Feb '16 9:53:37 AM PF
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* AuthorAvatar: Seita.
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* AuthorAvatar: Seita.Seita was this for Akiyuki Nosaka.

* BreakTheCutie: Barely even ''begins'' to describe what these two kids go through.
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* BreakTheCutie: Barely Doesn't even ''begins'' to describe what these two kids go through.

* BrotherSisterIncest: In the original novella, Seita is deprived of all other female company, and Setsuko has to grow up really quickly because of the circumstances, so their relationship develops undertones of this. Thankfully, the film left out this theme.
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* BrotherSisterIncest: In the original novella, short story, Seita is deprived of all other female company, and Setsuko has to grow up really quickly because of the circumstances, so their relationship develops undertones of this. Thankfully, the film left out this theme.

** Akiyuki Nosaka wrote the novel during a despair event horizon. Seita was his AuthorAvatar, and when his sister starved to death, he "died" as well.
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** Akiyuki Nosaka wrote the novel short story during a despair event horizon. Seita was his AuthorAvatar, and when his sister starved to death, he "died" as well.

* KillTheCutie: Poor, poor, little Setsuko.
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* KillTheCutie: Poor, poor, little Poor Setsuko.
14th Feb '16 3:38:41 AM eroock
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moved spoiler quote to quote page and replaced with save quote
-> ''"You are forced to watch as everything two small children do to survive WWII-era Japan fails miserably until they both die of starvation.''\\ ''Holy '''fuck'''."'' -->-- '''quicksummary''' sums it up. %% %% One quote is sufficient. Please place additional entries on the quotes tab. %% Please be careful when marking spoilers as certain details are foregone conclusions.
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-> ''"You are forced to watch as everything two small children do to survive WWII-era Japan fails miserably until they both die of starvation.''\\ ''Holy '''fuck'''."'' -->-- '''quicksummary''' sums it up. %% %% One quote is sufficient. Please place additional entries on ->''"This was the quotes tab. %% Please be careful when marking spoilers as certain details are foregone conclusions. best movie I never want to see again"'' -->--'''WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment'''
17th Jan '16 6:52:20 PM tooearlyinthemorning
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** "Setsuko never opened her eyes again." [[labelnote: Japanese]]節子は、そのまま目を覚まさなかった。 [[/labelnote]]
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** "Setsuko never opened her eyes again." " [[labelnote: Japanese]]節子は、そのまま目を覚まさなかった。 [[/labelnote]]
5th Jan '16 8:47:33 PM spirasen
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* SanitySlippage: Setsuko, due to malnourishment and possibly malaria. She starts sucking ''marbles'', thinking they’re fruit drops.
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* SanitySlippage: Setsuko, due to malnourishment and possibly malaria. She starts sucking ''marbles'', thinking they’re they're fruit drops.

* ShootTheShaggyDog: The whole film, but particularly the ending: [[spoiler:Seita withdraws all of his savings to buy food for Setsuko, but she’s already in too poor of a state to recover, and he can no longer use the money to save his own life.]] * StepfordSmiler: Seita, for Setsuko’s sake, [[spoiler:but sometimes even he can’t contain his tears and cries for the first time when Setsuko tells him that their aunt told her their mother died.]] * StartsWithTheirFuneral: Such as it was, at any rate. The movie opens with Seita's death and his reunion with his sister in the afterlife.
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* ShootTheShaggyDog: The whole film, but particularly the ending: [[spoiler:Seita [[spoiler: Seita withdraws all of his savings to buy food for Setsuko, but she’s already in too poor of a state to recover, and he can no longer use the money to save his own life.]] * StepfordSmiler: Seita, for Setsuko’s Setsuko's sake, [[spoiler:but [[spoiler: but sometimes even he can’t can't contain his tears tears, and cries for the first time time, when Setsuko tells him that their aunt aunt, told her their mother died.]] * StartsWithTheirFuneral: Such as it was, at any rate. The movie opens with Seita's death death, and his reunion with his sister in the afterlife.

* TogetherInDeath: In the final scene, [[spoiler:the contented spirits/ghosts of Seita and Setsuko happily share a view of Kobe in 1988.]]
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* TogetherInDeath: In the final scene, [[spoiler:the [[spoiler: the contented spirits/ghosts spirits / ghosts of Seita and Setsuko Setsuko, happily share a view of Kobe in 1988.]]

* TrademarkFavoriteFood: Setsuko’s fruit drops. See YourFavorite, below.
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* TrademarkFavoriteFood: Setsuko’s Setsuko's fruit drops. See YourFavorite, below.

** ‘On the night of September 21, 1945, I died.’[[labelnote:Japanese]]昭和20年9月21日夜、僕は死んだ。[[/labelnote]] And that's the ''opening line''. ** ‘Setsuko never opened her eyes again.’[[labelnote:Japanese]]節子は、そのまま目を覚まさなかった。[[/labelnote]]
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** ‘On "On the night of September 21, 1945, I died.’[[labelnote:Japanese]]昭和20年9月21日夜、僕は死んだ。[[/labelnote]] " [[labelnote: Japanese]]昭和20年9月21日夜、僕は死んだ。 [[/labelnote]] And that's the ''opening line''. line.'' ** ‘Setsuko "Setsuko never opened her eyes again.’[[labelnote:Japanese]]節子は、そのまま目を覚まさなかった。[[/labelnote]]" [[labelnote: Japanese]]節子は、そのまま目を覚まさなかった。 [[/labelnote]]

* TheXOfY: ''Grave'' of the ''Fireflies''.
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* TheXOfY: ''Grave'' of the ''Fireflies''.''Fireflies.''

3rd Jan '16 3:11:20 PM morenohijazo
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* PassedInTheirSleep: [[KillTheCutie Setsuko dies]] [[AdultFear of starvation]] [[TearJerker and sickness]] while she sleeps. -->'''Seita:''' ''(In a voiceover)'' [[WhamLine She never woke up]].
27th Dec '15 7:29:39 PM PF
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The story is based on the novella of the same name written by Akiyuki Nosaka, who based much of the plot on his own childhood in Japan during and after UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. The film begins with Seita dying and reuniting his little sister Setsuko as a ghost and [[HowWeGotHere the two have another look at the last few months of their life]], starting with the loss of their home and their mother in the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Kobe_in_World_War_II 1945 bombing of Kobe]] until Setsuko’s death.
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The story film is based on the novella short story of the same name written by Akiyuki Nosaka, who based much of the plot on his own childhood in Japan during and after UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. The film begins with Seita dying and reuniting his little sister Setsuko as a ghost and [[HowWeGotHere the two have another look at the last few months of their life]], starting with the loss of their home and their mother in the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Kobe_in_World_War_II 1945 bombing of Kobe]] until Setsuko’s death.
27th Dec '15 1:32:53 PM CarolC
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* AdultsAreUseless: Almost understandable considering the wartime. Even the kind farmer who lends Seita his wagon wishes he could afford to share his rice with Seita.
14th Nov '15 9:13:11 AM PF
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* GossipEvolution: The real life kind. It started with the director saying ''Grave'' was not an anti-war film (he did not think [[WarIsHell showing how bad it was]] could actually dissuade war). Based on that, [[BreakingTheFourthWall one character looking at the camera]], and [[TinfoilHat the film's release date]], a [[WebVideo/BennettTheSage certain interpretation]] that he was calling for [[ThisLoserIsYou conformity through guilt]] caught on. Then came the wiki edits that the director himself confirmed [[BlatantLies that was his intention]]. In reality, he has always been anti-establishment and the interpretation is the [[{{Jossed}} opposite of everything he stands for]]. However, the rumor has become [[MaliciousSlander too juicy]] to [[EditWar die now]].

* ThisLoserIsYou: An interpretation of the movie that became popular due to WebVideo/BennettTheSage's review. According to it, the film is not an anti-war movie, and is aimed squarely at juvenile delinquents in 1980s Japan. Supposedly, the ''real'' message of the film is, ‘When they were your age, your parents went through hell on earth, and ''this'' is how you choose to reward them?’ Claims that the [[BlatantLies creator himself said this]] have appeared on wikis [[SelfDemonstratingArticle including this one]]. In reality, he had only stated that it was not an anti-war film. ** This interpretation has more or less been [[{{Jossed}} jossed]] in an [[http://www.kanaloco.jp/article/72742 interview]] which delved into Takahata's [[WordOfGod actual message]] and various opinions. The story was about people [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop losing their ability to sympathize under trying conditions]]. The director does not consider ''Grave'' an anti-war movie because he fears statesmen could just as easily twist it into propaganda for a war to prevent such tragedies, and showing human suffering by itself ''cannot'' dissuade specific behaviors. He believes the current generation is smarter and less prone to mistakes than Japan was 70 years ago, and feels despair at conformity being spread through young people given ''[[CaptainObvious that's what led to the war]].''
14th Nov '15 8:07:14 AM craigj
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It wasn't one of the Kaguya interviews.
* GossipEvolution: The real life kind. It started with the director saying ''Grave'' was not an anti-war film (he did not think [[WarIsHell showing how bad it was]] could actually dissuade war). Based on that, [[BreakingTheFourthWall one character looking at the camera]], and [[TinfoilHat the film's release date]], a [[WebVideo/BennettTheSage certain interpretation]] that he was calling for [[ThisLoserIsYou conformity through guilt]] caught on. Then came the wiki edits that the director himself confirmed [[BlatantLies that was his intention]]. In reality, he has always been anti-establishment and the interpretation is the [[{{Jossed}} opposite of everything he stands for]]. However, the rumor has become [[MaliciousSlander too juicy]] to [[EditWar die now]].

** This interpretation has more or less been [[{{Jossed}} jossed]] in an [[http://www.kanaloco.jp/article/72742 interview]] over ''Anime/TheTaleOfPrincessKaguya'' which delved into Takahata's [[WordOfGod actual message]] and various opinions. The story was about people [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop losing their ability to sympathize under trying conditions]]. The director does not consider ''Grave'' an anti-war movie because he fears statesmen could just as easily twist it into propaganda for a war to prevent such tragedies, and showing human suffering by itself ''cannot'' dissuade specific behaviors. He believes the current generation is smarter and less prone to mistakes than Japan was 70 years ago, and feels despair at conformity being spread through young people given ''[[CaptainObvious that's what led to the war]].''
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** This interpretation has more or less been [[{{Jossed}} jossed]] in an [[http://www.kanaloco.jp/article/72742 interview]] over ''Anime/TheTaleOfPrincessKaguya'' which delved into Takahata's [[WordOfGod actual message]] and various opinions. The story was about people [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop losing their ability to sympathize under trying conditions]]. The director does not consider ''Grave'' an anti-war movie because he fears statesmen could just as easily twist it into propaganda for a war to prevent such tragedies, and showing human suffering by itself ''cannot'' dissuade specific behaviors. He believes the current generation is smarter and less prone to mistakes than Japan was 70 years ago, and feels despair at conformity being spread through young people given ''[[CaptainObvious that's what led to the war]].''
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