History AndIMustScream / Literature

8th Sep '17 12:00:51 AM PaulA
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* The Creator/HPLovecraft story "Out of the Aeons" has the monster Ghatanothoa:
-->Sight of the god, or its image, as all the legends of the Yuggoth-spawn agreed, meant paralysis and petrifaction of a singularly shocking sort, in which the victim was turned to stone and leather on the outside, while the brain within remained perpetually alive - horribly fixed and prisoned through the ages, and maddeningly conscious of the passage of interminable epochs of helpless inaction till chance and time might complete the decay of the petrified shell and leave it exposed to die. Most brains would go mad long before this aeon-deferred release could arrive.

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* Creator/HPLovecraft's Franchise/CthulhuMythos:
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The Creator/HPLovecraft story "Out of the Aeons" has the monster Ghatanothoa:
-->Sight --->Sight of the god, or its image, as all the legends of the Yuggoth-spawn agreed, meant paralysis and petrifaction of a singularly shocking sort, in which the victim was turned to stone and leather on the outside, while the brain within remained perpetually alive - horribly fixed and prisoned through the ages, and maddeningly conscious of the passage of interminable epochs of helpless inaction till chance and time might complete the decay of the petrified shell and leave it exposed to die. Most brains would go mad long before this aeon-deferred release could arrive.



*** This is presumably the fate of Henry Akeley in the Creator/HPLovecraft short story "The Whisperer in Darkness". In the original short story, although not explicit, it is heavily implied that Akeley was trapped and debrained by the Mi-Go very much against his will.

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*** This is presumably the fate of Henry Akeley in the Creator/HPLovecraft short story "The Whisperer in Darkness"."Literature/TheWhispererInDarkness". In the original short story, although not explicit, it is heavily implied that Akeley was trapped and debrained by the Mi-Go very much against his will.
7th Sep '17 11:59:29 PM PaulA
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** "Sight of the god, or its image," Or its image. [[FridgeLogic Who's making images of the god if looking at it does this to you?]]



*** In the 2011 film adaptation of the story, it is very clear that Akeley is an unwilling participant, since he asks Wilmarth to [[ICannotSelfTerminate kill him]] rather than leave him in [[FateWorseThanDeath the situation]], which Wilmarth can't psychologically bring himself to do. Another character later tells him that killing Akeley would have been kinder than leaving him as a BrainInAJar.
23rd Aug '17 10:40:03 PM PaulA
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* In Creator/AnneMcCaffrey's "Literature/TheShipWho" series, brainships can be "disconnected" from their sensors while still remaining conscious. It almost drives the protagonist insane when it happens to her during an incident which leads directly to subsequent brainship cells being built with integrated sensors that can't be disconnected against the occupant's will.

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* In Creator/AnneMcCaffrey's "Literature/TheShipWho" series, ''Literature/TheShipWhoSang'', brainships can be "disconnected" from their sensors while still remaining conscious. It almost drives the protagonist insane when it happens to her during an incident which leads directly to subsequent brainship cells being built with integrated sensors that can't be disconnected against the occupant's will.
3rd Aug '17 11:28:13 PM ixfd64
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* The short story "[[http://googology.wikia.com/wiki/Forever_Endeavor Forever Endeavor]]" by Jonathan Bowers.
2nd Aug '17 10:31:30 PM Fireblood
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* The TropeNamer ''Literature/IHaveNoMouthAndIMustScream'', written by Harlan Ellison.
** In the ending, the [[AIIsACrapshoot evil supercomputer AM]] transforms the last surviving protagonist into a gelatinous blob to prevent him from harming or killing himself in any way. Oozing around the inside of a crazy, vengeful computer forever. Did we mention all the other ColdBloodedTorture the supercomputer can inflict? And that [[EverybodysDeadDave everyone else is dead]]?
** Not only does the last survivor experience this, ''AM does as well''. Think about the situation at the end of the story: [[spoiler:Four out of five of the humans it saved for the specific purpose of torturing for eternity are dead. To keep the fifth one alive, it had to forcibly shapeshift it into a form that will reduce its ability to kill itself. In doing so, AM has no actual humans to torture any more, and (if memory serves), AM itself is simply a pile of printed circuit boards that itself can't do anything but hate its makers...]]
** The game [[spoiler:provides for a better ending, presumably even for the person who remains to watch over the computer]].
** The game also [[spoiler:makes it clear that AM is suffering from the trope too. He is a mighty AI with godlike powers, but his area of influence is extremely limited, since he is trapped under the earth inside his own complex, and due to his programming he is forced to constantly think about effective warfare, torture, and death, [[CreativeSterility removing any ability to do anything original with his vast powers]]. And he is fully aware of this.]]
*** Harlan Ellison co-designed the game, leading to considerable fidelity to the original story, so these conclusions may as well be considered canonical. Being that's the case: [[spoiler:Within the first minutes of his story arc, AM refers to Nimdok as a "kindred spirit," but would not keep Nimdok alive if he weren't among the people AM hates most of all among humanity. If AM deeply hates a person he considers like him, it follows AM absolutely hates himself; and, again, is almost certainly aware of this.]]



* The fate of apprentices who betray Valiria from ''Literature/{{Atharon}}'' is very painful death, followed by this trope, because then torture of the soul starts!



* The TropeNamer ''Literature/IHaveNoMouthAndIMustScream'', written by Harlan Ellison.
** In the ending, the [[AIIsACrapshoot evil supercomputer AM]] transforms the last surviving protagonist into a gelatinous blob to prevent him from harming or killing himself in any way. Oozing around the inside of a crazy, vengeful computer forever. Did we mention all the other ColdBloodedTorture the supercomputer can inflict? And that [[EverybodysDeadDave everyone else is dead]]?
** Not only does the last survivor experience this, ''AM does as well''. Think about the situation at the end of the story: [[spoiler:Four out of five of the humans it saved for the specific purpose of torturing for eternity are dead. To keep the fifth one alive, it had to forcibly shapeshift it into a form that will reduce its ability to kill itself. In doing so, AM has no actual humans to torture any more, and (if memory serves), AM itself is simply a pile of printed circuit boards that itself can't do anything but hate its makers...]]
** The game [[spoiler:provides for a better ending, presumably even for the person who remains to watch over the computer]].
** The game also [[spoiler:makes it clear that AM is suffering from the trope too. He is a mighty AI with godlike powers, but his area of influence is extremely limited, since he is trapped under the earth inside his own complex, and due to his programming he is forced to constantly think about effective warfare, torture, and death, [[CreativeSterility removing any ability to do anything original with his vast powers]]. And he is fully aware of this.]]
*** Harlan Ellison co-designed the game, leading to considerable fidelity to the original story, so these conclusions may as well be considered canonical. Being that's the case: [[spoiler:Within the first minutes of his story arc, AM refers to Nimdok as a "kindred spirit," but would not keep Nimdok alive if he weren't among the people AM hates most of all among humanity. If AM deeply hates a person he considers like him, it follows AM absolutely hates himself; and, again, is almost certainly aware of this.]]



* ''Literature/InheritanceCycle'': Carn kills an enemy mage with a spell that freezes him in place as all the moisture leaks out of his body while he decays until nothing is left but dust.



* The fate of apprentices who betray Valiria from ''Literature/{{Atharon}}'' is very painful death, followed by this trope, because then torture of the soul starts!
* ''Literature/InheritanceCycle'': Carn kills an enemy mage with a spell that freezes him in place as all the moisture leaks out of his body while he decays until nothing is left but dust.
2nd Aug '17 10:28:52 PM Fireblood
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* ''Literature/InheritanceCycle'': Carn kills an enemy mage with a spell that freezes him in place as all the moisture leaks out of his body while he decays until nothing is left but dust.
19th Jul '17 8:17:50 PM jormis29
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* Creator/HansChristianAndersen's ''The Girl Who Trod on the Loaf'', in which the title character is punished for her vanity by [[DisproportionateRetribution becoming a statue in Hell]]. She's able to hear everything being said about her by the living.

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* Creator/HansChristianAndersen's ''The Girl Who Trod on the Loaf'', ''Literature/TheGirlWhoTrodOnTheLoaf'', in which the title character is punished for her vanity by [[DisproportionateRetribution becoming a statue in Hell]]. She's able to hear everything being said about her by the living.
13th Jul '17 12:31:41 AM Doug86
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* In Dante's ''Literature/DivineComedy'', the worst sinners in Hell -- those who betrayed their superiors and benefactors -- are completely entombed in ice.

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* In Dante's ''Literature/DivineComedy'', ''Literature/TheDivineComedy'', the worst sinners in Hell -- those who betrayed their superiors and benefactors -- are completely entombed in ice.
27th Jun '17 4:01:39 AM Couran
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** Whether it's this trope or not however, depends heavily on the dragon. Dragons who's body has died along with their rider often ask to be destroyed as the pain of losing a rider is so horrible. If a dragon coughs up its Eldunari too young it will be too small, as it's basically a SoulJar the dragon limits its emotional, intellectual and magical growth if it does this effectively being trapped in the dragon equivilant of an [EmoTeen angsty teen]. Dragons who overcome this or who never had a rider find the transition a little unpleasant but generally don't have a problem adapting as it's a natural part of their biology. So long as they're not left alone they can live perfectly happily like this. It helps that as dragons reach advanced age they tend to change how they think and spend longer and longer just lying around thinking and dreaming anyway. They don't need a body to do this and in their Eldunari form they don't need food, water or even air so it can actually be an advantage if their body has already died.

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** Whether it's this trope or not however, depends heavily on the dragon. Dragons who's body has died along with their rider often ask to be destroyed as the pain of losing a rider is so horrible. If a dragon coughs up its Eldunari too young it will be too small, as it's basically a SoulJar the dragon limits its emotional, intellectual and magical growth if it does this effectively being trapped in the dragon equivilant of an [EmoTeen [[EmoTeen angsty teen].teen]]. Dragons who overcome this or who never had a rider find the transition a little unpleasant but generally don't have a problem adapting as it's a natural part of their biology. So long as they're not left alone they can live perfectly happily like this. It helps that as dragons reach advanced age they tend to change how they think and spend longer and longer just lying around thinking and dreaming anyway. They don't need a body to do this and in their Eldunari form they don't need food, water or even air so it can actually be an advantage if their body has already died.
27th Jun '17 4:01:08 AM Couran
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** Whether it's this trope or not however, depends heavily on the dragon. Dragons who's body has died along with their rider often ask to be destroyed as the pain of losing a rider is so horrible. If a dragon coughs up its Eldunari too young it will be too small, as it's basically a SoulJar the dragon limits its emotional, intellectual and magical growth if it does this effectively being trapped in the dragon equivilant of an [EmoTeen angsty teen]. Dragons who overcome this or who never had a rider find the transition a little unpleasant but generally don't have a problem adapting as it's a natural part of their biology. So long as they're not left alone they can live perfectly happily like this. It helps that as dragons reach advanced age they tend to change how they think and spend longer and longer just lying around thinking and dreaming anyway. They don't need a body to do this and in their Eldunari form they don't need food, water or even air so it can actually be an advantage if their body has already died.
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