History Analysis / PonyPOVSeries

16th Oct '16 1:56:00 PM Monolaf317
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Discord loved causing misery and suffering to the whole planet but did in a very random, not specific way. He never targeted a single race or country and allowed the majority to at least have free will. After centuries of his rule, ponies began to adapt to his chaos and unless you were unlucky enough to be personally visited by Discord or the Chaos 6, the chaos became an inconvenience to most ponies. However, in the beginning of his rule, Discord killed thousands of people until he had to restraint himself, for fear of destroying all his toys. But if Nightmare Eclipse didn't intervene, Discord would have probably gotten bored with Equestrian (after few thousand years, give or take) and moved to another planet/world/whatever. Leaving Equestrian alone and peace or possibly inherited by the Valeyard (which would probably be even worse).

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Discord loved causing misery and suffering to the whole planet but did in a very random, not specific way. He never targeted a single race or country and allowed the majority to at least have free will. After centuries of his rule, ponies began to adapt to his chaos and unless you were unlucky enough to be personally visited by Discord or the Chaos 6, the chaos became an inconvenience to most ponies. However, in the beginning of his rule, Discord killed thousands of people until he had to restraint himself, for fear of destroying all his toys. But if Nightmare Eclipse didn't intervene, Discord would have probably gotten bored with Equestrian (after few thousand years, give or take) and moved to another planet/world/whatever. Leaving Equestrian alone and peace or possibly inherited by the Valeyard (which would probably be even worse).worse).
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24th Sep '16 4:49:01 PM nombretomado
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And of course, there's the idea proposed by CSLewis that by doing away with a virtuous code, we pick one virtue and raise it above the others as alternate forms of morality. This by definition is what Nightmares are: taking one idea, and raising it above the rest.

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And of course, there's the idea proposed by CSLewis Creator/CSLewis that by doing away with a virtuous code, we pick one virtue and raise it above the others as alternate forms of morality. This by definition is what Nightmares are: taking one idea, and raising it above the rest.
1st May '16 7:28:03 PM Love777
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Twilight Sparkle had her DarkestHour when her friends abandoned her against Discord, and thus thought she wouldn't need to deal with her element being compromised after the fact. (Her element being the Magic of Friendship) While Lesson Zero showed that she still needed some therapy to help with her compulsion for order, her real challenge was on deciding whether other ponies could learn about friendship. But it was more than that. [[spoiler: During the crisis, she was confronted with the possibility of her friends [[CharacterDevelopment changing from their original selves]], and she tensely watched as each of her friends slowly grew to be something different from what they originally were.]] This lead up to her greatest challenges in being confronted with the problems of Trixie and Fluttershy. Somehow, simple magic couldn't overcome Trixie's problems, and Twilight felt responsible to help trixie through her problems. In her work helping Trixie's Case study, Twilight got to understand the importance of Friendship by seeing a pony like herself. It also lead to a surprise [[spoiler: because Trixie had her own unique element of magic as well]]. In taking on the role of teacher, she grows more free in beginning to grow [[spoiler: towards the role [[FutureBadass she might be destined to reach (according to Applejack's visions)]]. Yet perhaps her most important friendship lesson was learned in her confrontation with Fluttershy over her LoadBearingHero shadow form. It was a lesson on the nature of suffering, and how friendship is in the now, and that it can and will last as long that others try to maintain it, perhaps the essence of all her lessons put into one epiphany, and accepting this reality is what finally allowed Twilight to admit her new freedom]].

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Twilight Sparkle had her DarkestHour when her friends abandoned her against Discord, and thus thought she wouldn't need to deal with her element being compromised after the fact. (Her element being the Magic of Friendship) While Lesson Zero showed that she still needed some therapy to help with her compulsion for order, her real challenge was on deciding whether other ponies could learn about friendship. But it was more than that. [[spoiler: During the crisis, she was confronted with the possibility of her friends [[CharacterDevelopment changing from their original selves]], and she tensely watched as each of her friends slowly grew to be something different from what they originally were.]] This lead up to her greatest challenges in being confronted with the problems of Trixie and Fluttershy. Somehow, simple magic couldn't overcome Trixie's problems, and Twilight felt responsible to help trixie Trixie through her problems. In her work helping Trixie's Case study, Twilight got to understand the importance of Friendship by seeing a pony like herself. It also lead to a surprise [[spoiler: because Trixie had her own unique element of magic as well]]. In taking on the role of teacher, she grows more free in beginning to grow [[spoiler: towards the role [[FutureBadass she might be destined to reach (according to Applejack's visions)]]. Yet perhaps her most important friendship lesson was learned in her confrontation with Fluttershy over her LoadBearingHero shadow form. It was a lesson on the nature of suffering, and how friendship is in the now, and that it can and will last as long that others try to maintain it, perhaps the essence of all her lessons put into one epiphany, and accepting this reality is what finally allowed Twilight to admit her new freedom]].



The question of forgiveness is also constantly over the story, with the questions of fluttercruel, diamond tiara, silver spoon, and Trixie all begging the question: "Who deserves forgiveness, and how easily should they get it?"

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The question of forgiveness is also constantly over the story, with the questions of fluttercruel, diamond tiara, silver spoon, Fluttercruel, Diamond Tiara, Silver Spoon, and Trixie all begging the question: "Who deserves forgiveness, and how easily should they get it?"



Discord loved causing misery and suffering to the whole planet but did in a very random, not specific way. He never targeted a single race or country and allowed the majority to at least have free will. After centuries of his rule, ponies began to adapt to his chaos and unless you were unlucky enough to be personally visited by Discord or the Chaos 6, the chaos became an inconvenience to most ponies. However, in the beginning of his rule, Discord killed thousands of people until he had to restraint himself, for fear of destroying all his toys. But if Nightmare Eclipse didn't intervene, Discord would have probably gotten bored with Equestrian (after few thousand years, give or take) and moved to another planet/world/whatever. Leaving Equestrian alone and peace or possibly inherited by the Varyard (which would probably be even worse).

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Discord loved causing misery and suffering to the whole planet but did in a very random, not specific way. He never targeted a single race or country and allowed the majority to at least have free will. After centuries of his rule, ponies began to adapt to his chaos and unless you were unlucky enough to be personally visited by Discord or the Chaos 6, the chaos became an inconvenience to most ponies. However, in the beginning of his rule, Discord killed thousands of people until he had to restraint himself, for fear of destroying all his toys. But if Nightmare Eclipse didn't intervene, Discord would have probably gotten bored with Equestrian (after few thousand years, give or take) and moved to another planet/world/whatever. Leaving Equestrian alone and peace or possibly inherited by the Varyard Valeyard (which would probably be even worse).
19th Dec '15 1:41:45 PM Morgenthaler
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Fluttercruel, her shadow self, meanwhile skulked in darkness, seeking to get out and make Fluttershy cruel. Once it happened though, Fluttercruel was confronted by the reality that no matter what, she'd always start as Fluttershy's copy. Trying to teach fluttershy about reality almost sent "cruel" to oblivion without truly teaching Fluttershy what needed to be learned. Yet as TheDeterminator, [[spoiler: Fluttercruel freed herself from oblivion [[LikeABadassOutOfHell like a hero from darkness]]. Staring down Nightmare Whisper withe the lesson of being CruelToBeKind, "cruel" earned her cutie mark from protecting the other elements of harmony from destruction, and from this radiated the true element of Kindness: helping those who can't help themselves. Though 'Cruel thought this would be her RedemptionEqualsDeath, Fluttershy brought her back, saying that [[ClonesArePeopleToo she was her own pony]], and that though they would still share a body, Fluttercruel had earned her cutie mark, and that made her real to them. Cruel was so grateful, she resolved to help "shy" for the rest of her life, finally free from her fear and loathing, ready to help in the reality of life.]]

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Fluttercruel, her shadow self, meanwhile skulked in darkness, seeking to get out and make Fluttershy cruel. Once it happened though, Fluttercruel was confronted by the reality that no matter what, she'd always start as Fluttershy's copy. Trying to teach fluttershy about reality almost sent "cruel" to oblivion without truly teaching Fluttershy what needed to be learned. Yet as TheDeterminator, [[spoiler: Fluttercruel freed herself from oblivion [[LikeABadassOutOfHell like a hero from darkness]].darkness. Staring down Nightmare Whisper withe the lesson of being CruelToBeKind, "cruel" earned her cutie mark from protecting the other elements of harmony from destruction, and from this radiated the true element of Kindness: helping those who can't help themselves. Though 'Cruel thought this would be her RedemptionEqualsDeath, Fluttershy brought her back, saying that [[ClonesArePeopleToo she was her own pony]], and that though they would still share a body, Fluttercruel had earned her cutie mark, and that made her real to them. Cruel was so grateful, she resolved to help "shy" for the rest of her life, finally free from her fear and loathing, ready to help in the reality of life.]]
20th Jun '15 4:08:09 PM Love777
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Zecora learned to be willing to enter into the life of others in ponyville, and eventually accept help when needed. She even wrote a whole letter in rhyme to tell celestia all about it.

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Zecora learned to be willing to enter into the life of others in ponyville, Ponyville, and eventually accept help when needed. She even wrote a whole letter in rhyme to tell celestia Celestia all about it.



This can be extended far beyond the dark world too, as many, many ponies have to deal with this problem. The first one probably being Rainbow Dash and coming to terms with her betrayal of the elements. Or Pinkie Pie needing to come to terms with who she was and how it affects who she is now. Or much darker, Diamond Tiara wanting her mother back, when the way she'd get her back is repulsive and awful. Interestingly enough, this idea while still wholly embraced, is dealt with in a balanced way, as celestia in talking to Rainbow Dash about her confessing to Cloudsdale that pretending that something bad never happened can be as bad as tourturing yourself, as it is one way you can separate your heart from others, but that it is still something an individual must make on their own.

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This can be extended far beyond the dark world too, as many, many ponies have to deal with this problem. The first one probably being Rainbow Dash and coming to terms with her betrayal of the elements. Or Pinkie Pie needing to come to terms with who she was and how it affects who she is now. Or much darker, Diamond Tiara wanting her mother back, when the way she'd get her back is repulsive and awful. Interestingly enough, this idea while still wholly embraced, is dealt with in a balanced way, as celestia Celestia in talking to Rainbow Dash about her confessing to Cloudsdale that pretending that something bad never happened can be as bad as tourturing yourself, as it is one way you can separate your heart from others, but that it is still something an individual must make on their own.



From the short peek, the cattle are all semi-mindless (capable of giving love and working). Otherwise how else would Changelings eat and take care of the land? Sweetie Belle at least seems like a fair ruler and Discord seems trapped forever. Hard to say what the cattle feels about this new lifestyle but most Changelings probably love being free to roam the land, and not hide their true selves to the public. On the other hand, Celestial and Luna and some other non-evil deities are trapped in a fate worse then death.

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From the short peek, the cattle are all semi-mindless (capable of giving love and working). Otherwise how else would Changelings eat and take care of the land? Sweetie Belle at least seems like a fair ruler and Discord seems trapped forever. Hard to say what the cattle feels about this new lifestyle but most Changelings probably love being free to roam the land, and not hide their true selves to the public. On the other hand, Celestial Celestia and Luna and some other non-evil deities are trapped in a fate worse then death.
9th Jun '15 9:24:13 PM Love777
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[[WMG: the reharmonized series and the importance of facing reality]]

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[[WMG: the reharmonized series The Reharmonized Series and the importance The Importance of facing reality]]Facing Reality]]



Twilight Sparkle had her DarkestHour when her friends abandoned her against Discord, and thus thought she wouldn't need to deal with her element being compromised after the fact. (Her element being the Magic of Friendship) While Lesson Zero showed that she still needed some therapy to help with her compulsion for order, her real challenge was on deciding whether other ponies could learn about friendship. But it was more than that. [[spoiler: During the crisis, she was confronted with the possibility of her friends [[CharacterDevelopment changing from their original selves]], and she tensely watched as each of her friends slowly grew to be something different from what they originally were.]] This lead up to her greatest challenges in being confronted with the problems of Trixie and Fluttershy. Somehow, simple magic couldn't overcome Trixie's problems, and Twilight felt responsible to help trixie through her problems. In her work helping Trixie's Case study, Twilight got to understand the importance of Friendship by seeing a pony like herself. It also lead to a surprise [[spoiler: because Trixie had her own unique element of magic as well]]. In taking on the role of teacher, she grows more free in beginning to grow [[spoiler: towards the role [[FutureBadass she might be destined to reach (according to Applejack's visions)]]. Yet perhaps her most important friendship lesson was learned in her confrontation with Fluttershy over her LoadBearingHero shadow for. It was a lesson on the nature of suffering, and how friendship is in the now, and that it can and will last as long that others try to maintain it, perhaps the essence of all her lessons put into one epiphany, and accepting this reality is what finally allowed Twilight to admit her new freedom]].

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Twilight Sparkle had her DarkestHour when her friends abandoned her against Discord, and thus thought she wouldn't need to deal with her element being compromised after the fact. (Her element being the Magic of Friendship) While Lesson Zero showed that she still needed some therapy to help with her compulsion for order, her real challenge was on deciding whether other ponies could learn about friendship. But it was more than that. [[spoiler: During the crisis, she was confronted with the possibility of her friends [[CharacterDevelopment changing from their original selves]], and she tensely watched as each of her friends slowly grew to be something different from what they originally were.]] This lead up to her greatest challenges in being confronted with the problems of Trixie and Fluttershy. Somehow, simple magic couldn't overcome Trixie's problems, and Twilight felt responsible to help trixie through her problems. In her work helping Trixie's Case study, Twilight got to understand the importance of Friendship by seeing a pony like herself. It also lead to a surprise [[spoiler: because Trixie had her own unique element of magic as well]]. In taking on the role of teacher, she grows more free in beginning to grow [[spoiler: towards the role [[FutureBadass she might be destined to reach (according to Applejack's visions)]]. Yet perhaps her most important friendship lesson was learned in her confrontation with Fluttershy over her LoadBearingHero shadow for.form. It was a lesson on the nature of suffering, and how friendship is in the now, and that it can and will last as long that others try to maintain it, perhaps the essence of all her lessons put into one epiphany, and accepting this reality is what finally allowed Twilight to admit her new freedom]].
25th Oct '14 3:52:33 PM iml908
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** A 7th Element is confirmed in a potential future story. [[spoiler: It's Sunset Shimmer.]]
27th Aug '14 9:26:00 PM Yoshiegg64
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Fluttercruel reflected most of his weaknesses (his arrogance, his tendency to talk when it is time to finish others, his torture of the helpless, his tendency to make decisions too quick without thinking about the consequences and his reputation as a complete monster) as[[spoiler: Nightmare Eclipse]] did reflect his strengths (his ability to corrupt others, his ability to create unwinnable games, his ability to stay back in the background when needed like when he waited for Twilight's friends to break her, his ability to appear not as dangerous as he really is and his raw power). And both were completely fixated on Discord, Fluttercruel in her love and [[spoiler:Nightmare Paradox]] in her hate.

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Fluttercruel reflected most of his weaknesses (his arrogance, his tendency to talk when it is time to finish others, his torture of the helpless, his tendency to make decisions too quick without thinking about the consequences and his reputation as a complete monster) as[[spoiler: Nightmare Eclipse]] did reflect his strengths (his ability to corrupt others, his ability to create unwinnable games, his ability to stay back in the background when needed like when he waited for Twilight's friends to break her, his ability to appear not as dangerous as he really is and his raw power). And both were completely fixated on Discord, Fluttercruel in her love and [[spoiler:Nightmare Paradox]] in her hate.hate.

!!! Chrysalis's ideal future world!!!

The majority population of Discord's world had to live in a violent, ever changing world but had free will. While the citizens of Chrysalis world seems to have the opposite, a peaceful, fair life in exchange for neither free will or intelligence. Without seeing the cattle's condition and feelings about their lifestyle it is hard to say if Chrysalis's world is worse than the Discord's Dark World or not.

From the short peek, the cattle are all semi-mindless (capable of giving love and working). Otherwise how else would Changelings eat and take care of the land? Sweetie Belle at least seems like a fair ruler and Discord seems trapped forever. Hard to say what the cattle feels about this new lifestyle but most Changelings probably love being free to roam the land, and not hide their true selves to the public. On the other hand, Celestial and Luna and some other non-evil deities are trapped in a fate worse then death.

Discord loved causing misery and suffering to the whole planet but did in a very random, not specific way. He never targeted a single race or country and allowed the majority to at least have free will. After centuries of his rule, ponies began to adapt to his chaos and unless you were unlucky enough to be personally visited by Discord or the Chaos 6, the chaos became an inconvenience to most ponies. However, in the beginning of his rule, Discord killed thousands of people until he had to restraint himself, for fear of destroying all his toys. But if Nightmare Eclipse didn't intervene, Discord would have probably gotten bored with Equestrian (after few thousand years, give or take) and moved to another planet/world/whatever. Leaving Equestrian alone and peace or possibly inherited by the Varyard (which would probably be even worse).
4th Dec '13 3:24:13 PM Godzillawolf
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!!!Discord's 'daughters'

The irony is that looking back it is almost like Fluttercruel and [[spoiler:Nightmare Eclipse]] BOTH are Discord's daughters.

Fluttercruel reflected most of his weaknesses (his arrogance, his tendency to talk when it is time to finish others, his torture of the helpless, his tendency to make decisions too quick without thinking about the consequences and his reputation as a complete monster) as[[spoiler: Nightmare Eclipse]] did reflect his strengths (his ability to corrupt others, his ability to create unwinnable games, his ability to stay back in the background when needed like when he waited for Twilight's friends to break her, his ability to appear not as dangerous as he really is and his raw power). And both were completely fixated on Discord, Fluttercruel in her love and [[spoiler:Nightmare Paradox]] in her hate.
19th Nov '13 4:50:54 AM SeptimusHeap
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Applejack meanwhile had to face the AwfulTruth about Life. Those other ponies? They had UNIQUE problems. People will die. That family and friends are fleeting in this world, and that [[AllTheMyriadWays even in places you told yourself you'd be miserable, there can be joy]]. By facing this reality, [[HeroicBSOD Applejack is devastated at first]], but afterward, she uses every fiber of her being to make certain that people's REAL problems are at least addressed. It also gives her a unique look into the reality of their world, and become a sort of secret keeper for Luna and Celestia as a LivingLieDetector given unique knowledge about how their world is changing.

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Applejack meanwhile had to face the AwfulTruth about Life. Those other ponies? They had UNIQUE problems. People will die. That family and friends are fleeting in this world, and that [[AllTheMyriadWays even in places you told yourself you'd be miserable, there can be joy]].joy. By facing this reality, [[HeroicBSOD Applejack is devastated at first]], but afterward, she uses every fiber of her being to make certain that people's REAL problems are at least addressed. It also gives her a unique look into the reality of their world, and become a sort of secret keeper for Luna and Celestia as a LivingLieDetector given unique knowledge about how their world is changing.
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