History Analysis / DeaderThanDisco

6th Aug '17 3:23:55 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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Relying too much on the DancingBear can backfire in the long run. A film, TV show, or video game that's created to show off new special effects, technologies, or techniques can suffer from this once they become old-hat or, worse, outdated, especially if they have nothing else to fall back on. A work that's acclaimed as a great story in its own right, and which just so happens to also be a landmark in the development of special effects, is far more likely to stand the test of time. This is why we're still talking about ''Film/CitizenKane'', ''Film/StarWars'', and ''Film/JurassicPark'' as classic films to this day, and ''VideoGame/SuperMario64'' and ''VideoGame/HalfLife'' as classic games. On the other hand, a technological showcase that, even at the height of its popularity, is subject to complaints about bland characters, an undercooked script, and (in the case of games) boring gameplay is likely to be forgotten in just a few short years, consigned to the bargain bin at your local FYE or Gamestop. It might be respected by enthusiasts and students of the medium, if only for its technical qualities, but everybody else is likely to say "huh?" when the work is brought up.

Technology isn't the only gimmick available. A work can also attract audiences by showing controversial content or addressing hot-button issues, and if there's little else underneath, audiences in later years can wonder what the big deal is once that content is no longer considered edgy. Again, stories like ''Film/NightOfTheLivingDead1968'', ''Series/AllInTheFamily'', ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'', and ''VideoGame/{{Doom}}'', while known for being landmarks in terms of breaking taboos in their respective genres and mediums, are still watched, read, and played nowadays because they had other merits in addition to their content.

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Relying too much on the DancingBear can backfire in the long run. A film, TV show, or video game that's created to show off new special effects, technologies, or techniques can suffer from this once they become old-hat or, worse, outdated, especially if they have nothing else to fall back on. A work that's acclaimed as a great story in its own right, and which just so happens to also be a landmark in the development of special effects, is far more likely to stand the test of time. This is why we're still talking about ''Film/CitizenKane'', ''Film/StarWars'', and ''Film/JurassicPark'' as classic films to this day, and ''VideoGame/SuperMario64'' and ''VideoGame/HalfLife'' as classic games. On the other hand, a technological showcase that, even at the height of its popularity, is subject to complaints about bland characters, an undercooked script, and (in the case of games) boring gameplay is likely to be forgotten in just a few short years, consigned to the bargain bin at your local FYE or Gamestop.[=GameStop=]. It might be respected by enthusiasts and students of the medium, if only for its technical qualities, but everybody else is likely to say "huh?" when the work is brought up.

Technology isn't the only gimmick available. A work can also attract audiences by showing controversial content or addressing hot-button issues, and if there's little else underneath, audiences in later years can wonder what the big deal is once that content is no longer considered edgy. Again, stories like ''Literature/TheCatcherInTheRye'', ''Film/NightOfTheLivingDead1968'', ''Series/AllInTheFamily'', ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'', and ''VideoGame/{{Doom}}'', while known for being landmarks in terms of breaking taboos in their respective genres and mediums, are still watched, read, and played nowadays because they had other merits in addition to their content.



And on a temporal level, there's the good old-fashioned UnintentionalPeriodPiece. A work or a musician can sometimes wear too much of the time of its popularity on its sleeve, to the point where people in later years find it difficult to appreciate beneath all the dated fashions, music, and pop culture references. This can be especially so if key plot mechanisms, lines of dialogue, gameplay mechanics, or lyrics can't work in later years due to changes in how the world works, leaving future audiences without the cultural reference points that people at the time might have taken for granted.

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And on a temporal level, there's the good old-fashioned UnintentionalPeriodPiece. A work or a musician can sometimes wear too much of the time of its popularity on its sleeve, to the point where people in later years find it difficult to appreciate beneath all the dated fashions, music, and pop culture references. This can be especially so if key plot mechanisms, lines of dialogue, jokes, gameplay mechanics, or lyrics can't work in later years due to changes in how the world works, leaving future audiences without the cultural reference points that people at the time might have taken for granted.



Another common cause for something becoming DTD is when a the work becomes completely and irredeemably rotten over time, to the point that it spoils even the "good days" of the franchise.

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Another common cause for something becoming DTD Deader Than Disco is when a the work becomes completely and irredeemably rotten over time, to the point that it spoils even the "good old days" of the franchise.



Alternatively, ItsTheSameSoItSucks can come into play. If a creator's output or a long-running franchise starts to grow stale, fans can turn against them, seeing them as having run out of things to say or do. In extreme cases, fans can turn against earlier installments from the creator or franchise as well, seeing the work they once loved as having ''always'' been lacking in creativity once the mechanisms of its StrictlyFormula nature became apparent. This is less likely to happen if the formula was part of the appeal from the beginning (Angus Young of Music/{{ACDC}} once proudly joked about having "put out twelve albums that sound exactly the same"), but if a key part of a creator or work's appeal was that it was innovative or revolutionary, watch out.

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Alternatively, ItsTheSameSoItSucks can come into play. If a creator's output or a long-running franchise starts to grow stale, fans can turn against them, seeing them as having run out of things to say or do. In extreme cases, fans can turn against earlier installments from the creator or franchise as well, seeing the work they once loved as having ''always'' been lacking in creativity once the mechanisms of its StrictlyFormula nature became apparent. This is less likely to happen if the formula was part of the appeal from the beginning (Angus beginning; for example, Angus Young of Music/{{ACDC}} Music/{{ACDC}}, a band that built its entire identity around simple, old-fashioned hard rock to bang one's head to, once proudly joked about having "put out twelve albums that sound exactly the same"), but same." However, if a key part of a creator or work's appeal was that it was innovative or revolutionary, watch out.
18th Jul '17 11:15:19 AM KizunaTallis
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There's also simple backlash against some aspect of a work or its creator. Its fans may be seen as [[FanDumb overly annoying and obsessive]], causing people to hate it simply to avoid being associated with them. It might become [[SnarkBait a victim of public mockery]]. Its target demographic [[FleetingDemographic may outgrow it]] and look back on it as childish. It might have been the brainchild of a DarthWiki/FallenCreator whose works are now seen as toxic. A work may be subject to MagnumOpusDissonance; even if it's generally considered good anyway, a creator can lose his or her goodwill by [[WolverinePublicity talking it up too much]]. It may have been the perpetrator of an AwardSnub, earning it a substantial {{hatedom}} from fans of the work or creator seen as having been snubbed, especially if the other work's reputation [[VindicatedByHistory continues to grow over time]]. It may be a sequel or reboot that was popular when it first came out, but is later regarded as a disgrace to the original work after closer attention was paid to its flaws when compared with the original. A creator may have gotten involved in a controversy or trouble with the law that [[RoleEndingMisdemeanor badly tarnished]] their [[OvershadowedByControversy reputation]]. A famous actor, director, writer, musician, or ShowRunner may have [[CreatorKiller torpedoed their career in one shot]] with a BoxOfficeBomb or a similarly despised work. A work may suffer from MainstreamObscurity, winning acclaim and constantly being referenced yet not actually watched, read, or listened too much.

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There's also simple backlash against some aspect of a work or its creator. Its fans may be seen as [[FanDumb overly annoying and obsessive]], causing people to hate it simply to avoid being associated with them. It might become [[SnarkBait a victim of public mockery]]. Its target demographic [[FleetingDemographic may outgrow it]] and look back on it as childish. It might have been the brainchild of a DarthWiki/FallenCreator whose works are now seen as toxic. A work may be subject to MagnumOpusDissonance; even if it's generally considered good anyway, a creator can lose his or her goodwill by [[WolverinePublicity talking it up too much]]. It may have been the perpetrator of an AwardSnub, earning it a substantial {{hatedom}} from fans of the work or creator seen as having been snubbed, especially if the other work's reputation [[VindicatedByHistory continues to grow over time]]. It may be a sequel or reboot that was popular when it first came out, but is later regarded as a disgrace to the original work after closer attention was paid to its flaws when compared with the original. A creator may have gotten involved in a controversy or trouble with the law that [[RoleEndingMisdemeanor badly tarnished]] their [[OvershadowedByControversy reputation]]. A famous actor, director, writer, musician, or ShowRunner may have [[CreatorKiller torpedoed their career in one shot]] with a BoxOfficeBomb or a similarly despised work. A work may suffer from MainstreamObscurity, winning acclaim and constantly being referenced yet not actually watched, read, or listened too much.
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16th Jul '17 7:00:24 AM CyberTiger88
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There's also simple backlash against some aspect of a work or its creator. Its fans may be seen as [[FanDumb overly annoying and obsessive]], causing people to hate it simply to avoid being associated with them. It might become [[SnarkBait a victim of public mockery]]. Its target demographic [[FleetingDemographic may outgrow it]] and look back on it as childish. It might have been the brainchild of a DarthWiki/FallenCreator whose works are now seen as toxic. A work may be subject to MagnumOpusDissonance; even if it's generally considered good anyway, a creator can lose his or her goodwill by [[WolverinePublicity talking it up too much]]. It may have been the perpetrator of an AwardSnub, earning it a substantial {{hatedom}} from fans of the work or creator seen as having been snubbed, especially if the other work's reputation [[VindicatedByHistory continues to grow over time]]. It may be a sequel or reboot that was popular when it first came out, but is later regarded as a disgrace to the original work after closer attention was paid to its flaws when compared with the original. A creator may have gotten involved in a controversy or trouble with the law that [[RoleEndingMisdemeanor badly tarnished]] their [[OvershadowedByControversy reputation]]. A famous actor, director, writer, musician, or ShowRunner may have [[CreatorKiller torpedoed their career in one shot]] with a BoxOfficeBomb or a similarly despised work. A work may suffer from MainstreamObscurity, winning acclaim and constantly being referenced yet not actually watched, read, or listened to much.

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There's also simple backlash against some aspect of a work or its creator. Its fans may be seen as [[FanDumb overly annoying and obsessive]], causing people to hate it simply to avoid being associated with them. It might become [[SnarkBait a victim of public mockery]]. Its target demographic [[FleetingDemographic may outgrow it]] and look back on it as childish. It might have been the brainchild of a DarthWiki/FallenCreator whose works are now seen as toxic. A work may be subject to MagnumOpusDissonance; even if it's generally considered good anyway, a creator can lose his or her goodwill by [[WolverinePublicity talking it up too much]]. It may have been the perpetrator of an AwardSnub, earning it a substantial {{hatedom}} from fans of the work or creator seen as having been snubbed, especially if the other work's reputation [[VindicatedByHistory continues to grow over time]]. It may be a sequel or reboot that was popular when it first came out, but is later regarded as a disgrace to the original work after closer attention was paid to its flaws when compared with the original. A creator may have gotten involved in a controversy or trouble with the law that [[RoleEndingMisdemeanor badly tarnished]] their [[OvershadowedByControversy reputation]]. A famous actor, director, writer, musician, or ShowRunner may have [[CreatorKiller torpedoed their career in one shot]] with a BoxOfficeBomb or a similarly despised work. A work may suffer from MainstreamObscurity, winning acclaim and constantly being referenced yet not actually watched, read, or listened to too much.
16th Mar '17 11:12:29 AM KizunaTallis
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Another common cause for something becoming DTD is going completely and irredeemably rotten, to the point it taints even the "good days" of the franchise.

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Another common cause for something becoming DTD is going when a the work becomes completely and irredeemably rotten, rotten over time, to the point that it taints spoils even the "good days" of the franchise.



[[EndingAversion Ending a work]] on [[BrokenBase a base-breaking note]] is another way to do this. A work may be [[LeftHanging unable to tie enough plot threads]], [[CutShort may not have an ending at all]]. The work's ending may be considered overtly [[CruelTwistEnding mean-spirited]], [[GainaxEnding mind-boggling]], [[ShockingSwerve nonsensical]], [[CaptainObviousReveal predictable]], [[ShootTheShaggyDog pointless]], [[AntiClimax or just unimpressive]], which ends up turning off former fans and any potential new audience members.

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[[EndingAversion Ending a work]] on [[BrokenBase a base-breaking note]] is another way to do this. A work may be [[LeftHanging unable to tie enough plot threads]], threads]] or [[CutShort may not have an ending at all]]. The work's ending may be considered overtly [[CruelTwistEnding mean-spirited]], [[GainaxEnding mind-boggling]], [[ShockingSwerve nonsensical]], [[CaptainObviousReveal predictable]], [[ShootTheShaggyDog pointless]], [[AntiClimax or just unimpressive]], which ends up turning off former fans and any potential new audience members.



There's also simple backlash against some aspect of a work or its creator. Its fans may be seen as [[FanDumb overly annoying and obsessive]], causing people to hate it simply to avoid being associated with them. It might become [[SnarkBait a victim of public mockery]]. Its target demographic [[FleetingDemographic may outgrow it]] and look back on it as childish. It might have been the brainchild of a DarthWiki/FallenCreator whose works are now seen as toxic. A work may be subject to MagnumOpusDissonance; even if it's generally considered good anyway, a creator can lose his or her goodwill by [[WolverinePublicity talking it up too much]]. It may have been the perpetrator of an AwardSnub, earning it a substantial {{hatedom}} from fans of the work or creator seen as having been snubbed, especially if the other work's reputation [[VindicatedByHistory continues to grow over time]]. It may be a sequel or reboot that was popular at the time, but is today regarded as a disgrace to the original work after its flaws were paid more close attention to when compared with the original. A creator may have gotten involved in a controversy or trouble with the law that [[RoleEndingMisdemeanor badly tarnished]] their [[OvershadowedByControversy reputation]]. A famous actor, director, writer, musician, or ShowRunner may have [[CreatorKiller torpedoed their career in one shot]] with a BoxOfficeBomb or a similarly despised work. A work may suffer from MainstreamObscurity, winning acclaim and constantly being referenced yet not actually watched, read, or listened to much.

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There's also simple backlash against some aspect of a work or its creator. Its fans may be seen as [[FanDumb overly annoying and obsessive]], causing people to hate it simply to avoid being associated with them. It might become [[SnarkBait a victim of public mockery]]. Its target demographic [[FleetingDemographic may outgrow it]] and look back on it as childish. It might have been the brainchild of a DarthWiki/FallenCreator whose works are now seen as toxic. A work may be subject to MagnumOpusDissonance; even if it's generally considered good anyway, a creator can lose his or her goodwill by [[WolverinePublicity talking it up too much]]. It may have been the perpetrator of an AwardSnub, earning it a substantial {{hatedom}} from fans of the work or creator seen as having been snubbed, especially if the other work's reputation [[VindicatedByHistory continues to grow over time]]. It may be a sequel or reboot that was popular at the time, when it first came out, but is today later regarded as a disgrace to the original work after closer attention was paid to its flaws were paid more close attention to when compared with the original. A creator may have gotten involved in a controversy or trouble with the law that [[RoleEndingMisdemeanor badly tarnished]] their [[OvershadowedByControversy reputation]]. A famous actor, director, writer, musician, or ShowRunner may have [[CreatorKiller torpedoed their career in one shot]] with a BoxOfficeBomb or a similarly despised work. A work may suffer from MainstreamObscurity, winning acclaim and constantly being referenced yet not actually watched, read, or listened to much.
13th Mar '17 4:53:59 PM CyberTiger88
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[[EndingAversion Ending a work]] on [[BrokenBase a base-breaking note]] is another way to do this. A work may be [[LeftHanging unable to tie enough plot threads]], [[CutShort may not have an ending at all]], or have an ending that is considered overtly [[CruelTwistEnding mean-spirited]], [[GainaxEnding mind-boggling]], [[ShockingSwerve nonsensical]], [[CaptainObviousReveal predictable]], [[ShootTheShaggyDog pointless]], [[AntiClimax or just unimpressive]], which ends up turning off former fans and any potential new audience members.

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[[EndingAversion Ending a work]] on [[BrokenBase a base-breaking note]] is another way to do this. A work may be [[LeftHanging unable to tie enough plot threads]], [[CutShort may not have an ending at all]], or have an all]]. The work's ending that is may be considered overtly [[CruelTwistEnding mean-spirited]], [[GainaxEnding mind-boggling]], [[ShockingSwerve nonsensical]], [[CaptainObviousReveal predictable]], [[ShootTheShaggyDog pointless]], [[AntiClimax or just unimpressive]], which ends up turning off former fans and any potential new audience members.
10th Mar '17 12:46:01 PM LaptopGuy
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There's also simple backlash against some aspect of a work or its creator. Its fans may be seen as [[FanDumb overly annoying and obsessive]], causing people to hate it simply to avoid being associated with them. It might become [[SnarkBait a victim of public mockery]]. Its target demographic [[FleetingDemographic may outgrow it]] and look back on it as childish. It might have been the brainchild of a DarthWiki/FallenCreator whose works are now seen as toxic. A work may be subject to MagnumOpusDissonance; even if it's generally considered good anyway, a creator can lose his or her goodwill by [[WolverinePublicity talking it up too much]]. It may have been the perpetrator of an AwardSnub, earning it a substantial {{hatedom}} from fans of the work or creator seen as having been snubbed, especially if the other work's reputation [[VindicatedByHistory continues to grow over time]]. A creator may have gotten involved in a controversy or trouble with the law that [[RoleEndingMisdemeanor badly tarnished]] their [[OvershadowedByControversy reputation]]. A famous actor, director, writer, musician, or ShowRunner may have [[CreatorKiller torpedoed their career in one shot]] with a BoxOfficeBomb or a similarly despised work. A work may suffer from MainstreamObscurity, winning acclaim and constantly being referenced yet not actually watched, read, or listened to much.

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There's also simple backlash against some aspect of a work or its creator. Its fans may be seen as [[FanDumb overly annoying and obsessive]], causing people to hate it simply to avoid being associated with them. It might become [[SnarkBait a victim of public mockery]]. Its target demographic [[FleetingDemographic may outgrow it]] and look back on it as childish. It might have been the brainchild of a DarthWiki/FallenCreator whose works are now seen as toxic. A work may be subject to MagnumOpusDissonance; even if it's generally considered good anyway, a creator can lose his or her goodwill by [[WolverinePublicity talking it up too much]]. It may have been the perpetrator of an AwardSnub, earning it a substantial {{hatedom}} from fans of the work or creator seen as having been snubbed, especially if the other work's reputation [[VindicatedByHistory continues to grow over time]]. It may be a sequel or reboot that was popular at the time, but is today regarded as a disgrace to the original work after its flaws were paid more close attention to when compared with the original. A creator may have gotten involved in a controversy or trouble with the law that [[RoleEndingMisdemeanor badly tarnished]] their [[OvershadowedByControversy reputation]]. A famous actor, director, writer, musician, or ShowRunner may have [[CreatorKiller torpedoed their career in one shot]] with a BoxOfficeBomb or a similarly despised work. A work may suffer from MainstreamObscurity, winning acclaim and constantly being referenced yet not actually watched, read, or listened to much.
7th Jan '17 10:08:51 PM KizunaTallis
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One common way this happens is for a franchise to do something that [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks is widely rejected by the established fandom]] and fails to allow it to pick up a new audience. Falling victim to TheChrisCarterEffect is one of the easiest ways for this to happen, as fans' memories of earlier seasons, books, films, or games are tainted by the realization that the plot that they had spent years following is [[ArcFatigue going nowhere]], is being [[KudzuPlot made up on the fly with little forethought]], and [[EndingFatigue isn't likely to be resolved]]. Consequently, the now-former fans tell newbies not to bother. Another way for this to happen is to [[WereStillRelevantDammit try and catch younger audiences by using fads]], which can leave longtime fans outraged and fail to bring in the new audience that was hoped for. Finally, DarknessInducedAudienceApathy may leave fans with nobody to root for, as the EightDeadlyWords start to take over. In a nutshell, the work enters a DorkAge that it never gets out of, JumpingTheShark so badly that it rubs off on when it was still good.

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Another common cause for something becoming DTD is going completely and irredeemably rotten, to the point it taints even the "good days" of the franchise.

One common way this happens is for a franchise to do something that [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks is widely rejected by the established fandom]] and fails to allow it to pick up a new audience. Falling victim to TheChrisCarterEffect is one of the easiest ways for this to happen, as fans' memories of earlier seasons, books, films, or games are become tainted by the realization that the plot that they had spent years following is [[ArcFatigue going nowhere]], is being [[KudzuPlot made up on the fly with little forethought]], and [[EndingFatigue isn't likely to be resolved]]. Consequently, the now-former fans tell newbies not to bother. Another way for this to happen is to [[WereStillRelevantDammit try and catch younger audiences by using fads]], which can leave longtime fans outraged and fail to bring in the new audience that was hoped for. Finally, DarknessInducedAudienceApathy may leave fans with nobody to root for, as the EightDeadlyWords start to take over. In a nutshell, the work enters a DorkAge that it never gets out of, JumpingTheShark so badly that it rubs off on when it was still good.
7th Jan '17 7:56:28 PM Kuruni
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Another cause of this trope is a franchise simply [[SeasonalRot going bad]].
27th Dec '16 2:22:54 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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A work or a creator becomes DeaderThanDisco when HypeBacklash makes it go from hugely popular to almost universally hated with no chance of ever making a comeback. This is the most important criterion. However, there are many ways that this can happen.

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A work or a creator becomes DeaderThanDisco when HypeBacklash makes it go from hugely popular to almost universally hated hated, with no little-to-no chance of ever making [[PopularityPolynomial a comeback.comeback]]. This is the most important criterion. However, there are many ways that this can happen.



Another cause of this trope is a franchise doing something that [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks is widely rejected by the established fandom]] and fails to allow it to pick up a new audience. Falling victim to TheChrisCarterEffect or a KudzuPlot is one of the easiest ways for this to happen, as fans' memories of earlier seasons, books, films, or games are tainted by the realization that the plot that they had spent years following is [[ArcFatigue going nowhere]], is being made up on the fly with little forethought, and [[EndingFatigue isn't likely to be resolved]]. Consequently, the now-former fans tell newbies not to bother. Another way for this to happen is to [[WereStillRelevantDammit try and catch younger audiences by using fads]], which can leave longtime fans outraged and fail to bring in the new audience that was hoped for. Finally, DarknessInducedAudienceApathy may leave fans with nobody to root for, as the EightDeadlyWords start to take over. In a nutshell, the work enters a DorkAge that it never gets out of, JumpingTheShark so badly that it rubs off on when it was still good.

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Another cause of this trope is a franchise doing simply [[SeasonalRot going bad]].

One common way this happens is for a franchise to do
something that [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks is widely rejected by the established fandom]] and fails to allow it to pick up a new audience. Falling victim to TheChrisCarterEffect or a KudzuPlot is one of the easiest ways for this to happen, as fans' memories of earlier seasons, books, films, or games are tainted by the realization that the plot that they had spent years following is [[ArcFatigue going nowhere]], is being [[KudzuPlot made up on the fly with little forethought, forethought]], and [[EndingFatigue isn't likely to be resolved]]. Consequently, the now-former fans tell newbies not to bother. Another way for this to happen is to [[WereStillRelevantDammit try and catch younger audiences by using fads]], which can leave longtime fans outraged and fail to bring in the new audience that was hoped for. Finally, DarknessInducedAudienceApathy may leave fans with nobody to root for, as the EightDeadlyWords start to take over. In a nutshell, the work enters a DorkAge that it never gets out of, JumpingTheShark so badly that it rubs off on when it was still good.



[[EndingAversion Ending a work]] on [[BrokenBase a base-breaking note]] is another way to do this. A work may be [[LeftHanging unable to tie enough plot threads]], [[CutShort may not have an ending at all]], or have an ending that is considered overtly [[CruelTwistEnding mean-spirited]], [[GainaxEnding mind-boogling]], [[ShockingSwerve non-nonsensical]], [[ShootTheShaggyDog pointless]], [[AntiClimax or just unimpressive]], which ends up turning off former fans and any potential new audience members.

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[[EndingAversion Ending a work]] on [[BrokenBase a base-breaking note]] is another way to do this. A work may be [[LeftHanging unable to tie enough plot threads]], [[CutShort may not have an ending at all]], or have an ending that is considered overtly [[CruelTwistEnding mean-spirited]], [[GainaxEnding mind-boogling]], mind-boggling]], [[ShockingSwerve non-nonsensical]], nonsensical]], [[CaptainObviousReveal predictable]], [[ShootTheShaggyDog pointless]], [[AntiClimax or just unimpressive]], which ends up turning off former fans and any potential new audience members.
26th Dec '16 9:42:50 AM KizunaTallis
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A work or a creator becomes Deader Than Disco when HypeBacklash makes it go from hugely popular to almost universally hated. This is the most important criterion. However, there are many ways that this can happen.

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A work or a creator becomes Deader Than Disco DeaderThanDisco when HypeBacklash makes it go from hugely popular to almost universally hated.hated with no chance of ever making a comeback. This is the most important criterion. However, there are many ways that this can happen.



[[EndingAversion Ending a work]] on [[BaseBreaker a base-breaking note]] is another way to do this. A work may be [[LeftHanging unable to tie enough plot threads]], [[CutShort may not have an ending at all]], or have an ending that is considered overtly [[CruelTwistEnding mean-spirited]], [[GainaxEnding mind-boogling]], [[ShockingSwerve non-nonsensical]], [[ShootTheShaggyDog pointless]], [[AntiClimax or just unimpressive]], which ends up turning off former fans and any potential new audience members.

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[[EndingAversion Ending a work]] on [[BaseBreaker [[BrokenBase a base-breaking note]] is another way to do this. A work may be [[LeftHanging unable to tie enough plot threads]], [[CutShort may not have an ending at all]], or have an ending that is considered overtly [[CruelTwistEnding mean-spirited]], [[GainaxEnding mind-boogling]], [[ShockingSwerve non-nonsensical]], [[ShootTheShaggyDog pointless]], [[AntiClimax or just unimpressive]], which ends up turning off former fans and any potential new audience members.



There's also simple backlash against some aspect of a work or its creator. Its fans may be seen as [[FanDumb overly annoying and obsessive]], causing people to hate it simply to avoid being associated with them. It might become [[SnarkBait a victim of public mockery]]. Its target demographic [[FleetingDemographic may outgrow it]] and look back on it as childish. It might have been the brainchild of a DarthWiki/FallenCreator whose works are now seen as toxic. A work may be subject to MagnumOpusDissonance; even if it's generally considered good anyway, a creator can lose his or her goodwill by [[WolverinePublicity talking it up too much]]. It may have been the perpetrator of an AwardSnub, earning it a substantial {{hatedom}} from fans of the work or creator seen as having been snubbed, especially if the other work's reputation [[VindicatedByHistory continues to grow over time]]. A creator may have gotten involved in a controversy or trouble with the law that [[RoleEndingMisdemeanor badly tarnished]] their [[ContractualPurity reputation]]. A famous actor, director, writer, musician, or ShowRunner may have [[CreatorKiller torpedoed their career in one shot]] with a BoxOfficeBomb or a similarly despised work. A work may suffer from MainstreamObscurity, winning acclaim and constantly being referenced yet not actually watched, read, or listened to much.

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There's also simple backlash against some aspect of a work or its creator. Its fans may be seen as [[FanDumb overly annoying and obsessive]], causing people to hate it simply to avoid being associated with them. It might become [[SnarkBait a victim of public mockery]]. Its target demographic [[FleetingDemographic may outgrow it]] and look back on it as childish. It might have been the brainchild of a DarthWiki/FallenCreator whose works are now seen as toxic. A work may be subject to MagnumOpusDissonance; even if it's generally considered good anyway, a creator can lose his or her goodwill by [[WolverinePublicity talking it up too much]]. It may have been the perpetrator of an AwardSnub, earning it a substantial {{hatedom}} from fans of the work or creator seen as having been snubbed, especially if the other work's reputation [[VindicatedByHistory continues to grow over time]]. A creator may have gotten involved in a controversy or trouble with the law that [[RoleEndingMisdemeanor badly tarnished]] their [[ContractualPurity [[OvershadowedByControversy reputation]]. A famous actor, director, writer, musician, or ShowRunner may have [[CreatorKiller torpedoed their career in one shot]] with a BoxOfficeBomb or a similarly despised work. A work may suffer from MainstreamObscurity, winning acclaim and constantly being referenced yet not actually watched, read, or listened to much.
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