History AlternativeCharacterInterpretation / MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic

16th Sep '17 1:31:24 PM digiman619
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** Between the aforementioned horned Big Mac in "Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep?", his [[TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons Oubliettes and Orgres]] character in "Discord and Dragons" being a unicorn, and his new unicorn girlfriend in "Hard to Say Anything", it's possible that that he has a unicorn fetish.
30th Aug '17 8:09:15 PM Pichu-kun
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* Twilight Sparkle's difficulty in social situations (most clearly seen at the start of season 1), her love of studying and reading, her knowledge of magic, and her SuperOCD all point to her being an [[UsefulNotes/AspergerSyndrome aspie]] or a high-functioning autistic. [[WMG/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicTwilightSparkle The WMG page]] and the Princesses section has more speculation.

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Twilight Sparkle's difficulty in social situations (most clearly seen at the start of season 1), her love of studying and reading, her knowledge of magic, and her SuperOCD all point to her being an [[UsefulNotes/AspergerSyndrome aspie]] or a high-functioning autistic. [[WMG/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicTwilightSparkle The WMG page]] and the Princesses section has more speculation.



* Spike is frequently depicted as a stoner (or maybe a ''[[{{Pun}} gem]]''-stoner?)

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Spike is frequently depicted as a stoner (or maybe a ''[[{{Pun}} gem]]''-stoner?)



* Rainbow Dash's tomboyish nature, raspy voice, and rainbow motif have caused some people to come to [[LesbianJock certain conclusions]]. Lauren Faust herself has noted that this is rather unfair to all of the jockishly tomboy straight women ''and'' feminine lesbian women out there.

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Rainbow Dash's tomboyish nature, raspy voice, and rainbow motif have caused some people to come to [[LesbianJock certain conclusions]]. Lauren Faust herself has noted that this is rather unfair to all of the jockishly tomboy straight women ''and'' feminine lesbian women out there.



* Pinkie Pie being a FourthWallObserver with MediumAwareness who [[BreakingTheFourthWall ignores it when it suits her]] is an ACI so widespread most fans assume it's true. Granted she ''does'' interrupt the IrisOut on three separate occasions, and many times she appears to look directly at the audience (WordOfGod says these are coincidences... at least they used to be, though sometimes in seasons two and three these fourth wall references seem to be intentional).

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Pinkie Pie being a FourthWallObserver with MediumAwareness who [[BreakingTheFourthWall ignores it when it suits her]] is an ACI so widespread most fans assume it's true. Granted she ''does'' interrupt the IrisOut on three separate occasions, and many times she appears to look directly at the audience (WordOfGod says these are coincidences... at least they used to be, though sometimes in seasons two and three these fourth wall references seem to be intentional).



* Fluttershy's possession of the SmartBall in "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E14SuitedForSuccess Suited For Success]]" has led to her exhibiting similar behavior, and that level of knowledge about a number of fields (from writing to gaming to politics), in various fanfics.

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Fluttershy's possession of the SmartBall in "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E14SuitedForSuccess Suited For Success]]" has led to her exhibiting similar behavior, and that level of knowledge about a number of fields (from writing to gaming to politics), in various fanfics.



* Scootaloo is the only member of the [[PowerTrio Cutie Mark Crusaders]] who has had no familial connections shown or even hinted at, and is rarely seen apart from her two closest friends. Additionally, she's a pegasus unable to fly for anything but short distances, and is rarely seen without her crude wooden scooter. As such, Scootaloo is often depicted as being stuck in an abusive family, or as a homeless orphan.

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Scootaloo is the only member of the [[PowerTrio Cutie Mark Crusaders]] who has had no familial connections shown or even hinted at, and is rarely seen apart from her two closest friends. Additionally, she's a pegasus unable to fly for anything but short distances, and is rarely seen without her crude wooden scooter. As such, Scootaloo is often depicted as being stuck in an abusive family, or as a homeless orphan.



* [[TheHighQueen Princess Celestia's]] characterization can vary greatly depending on who you ask or what fanfiction or fanart you look at. Canonically she's a wise and loving BigGood, but in the fandom she is very prone to RonTheDeathEater characterizations.

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[[TheHighQueen Princess Celestia's]] characterization can vary greatly depending on who you ask or what fanfiction or fanart you look at. Canonically she's a wise and loving BigGood, but in the fandom she is very prone to RonTheDeathEater characterizations.



* Is Nightmare Moon really a GreenEyedMonster MadGod or was she banished for leading the ponies into an ultimately failed civil war against Celestia's rule? Combined with the aforementioned "Tyrantlestia" interpretation is the theory that Nightmare Moon [[HeroWithBadPublicity was the hero]] and is only the victim of WrittenByTheWinners.

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Is Nightmare Moon really a GreenEyedMonster MadGod or was she banished for leading the ponies into an ultimately failed civil war against Celestia's rule? Combined with the aforementioned "Tyrantlestia" interpretation is the theory that Nightmare Moon [[HeroWithBadPublicity was the hero]] and is only the victim of WrittenByTheWinners.



* Celestia and Luna being {{Physical God}}desses is itself an ACI; there are numerous hints for it, most significantly their dominion over celestial bodies, [[PaintingTheFrostOnWindows the aspects of nature they represent]], and their [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld extensive lifespan]], but the actual ''word'' god/goddess has never been used in the series. Less common is the interpretation that they are "merely" extremely powerful ponies, or two of the few remaining [[AscendedFanon alicorns]] after their race was nearly rendered extinct.
** With the introduction of "Age Spells" in "Magic Duel", spells that can alter the age of the target but can only be cast by the most powerful of casters, Princess Celestia and Princess Luna's immortality may not even be inherent but the product of repeated self-cast Age Spells (which would also explain Luna's difference in appearance between her first and second appearance).
* This is further complicated by the presence of Princess Cadance. Is she also a Physical Goddess? [[AllThereInTheManual We're told]] she's the niece of Princess Celestia, but she couldn't be Luna's child since Luna spent the last thousand years in the moon. So who are her parents? Is she also immortal and will outlive Shining Armor? Does she even have a blood relation to the Royal Pony Sisters? (It should be noted that Cadance was originally conceived as a unicorn but made an alicorn because of ExecutiveMeddling.)
** ''Literature/TwilightSparkleAndTheCrystalHeartSpell'' expanded on Princess Cadence's backstory and where she came from: It is revealed that Cadence was originally an orphaned pegasus that was adopted by an earth pony village. A WickedWitch by the name of Prismia attacked the village by draining all their love for each other. Cadence somehow defeated her and was magically transported to the same "interstice" that Twilight went to when she completed Starswirl's unfinished spell. She met Princess Celestia there and was turned into an alicorn, adopted by Celestia, and made a princess herself. Whether this is canon or not is up in the air right now, but this is the closest thing to a backstory she has so far.

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* Celestia and Luna being {{Physical God}}desses is itself an ACI; there are numerous hints for it, most significantly their dominion over celestial bodies, [[PaintingTheFrostOnWindows the aspects of nature they represent]], and their [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld extensive lifespan]], but the actual ''word'' god/goddess has never been used in the series. Less common is the interpretation that they are "merely" extremely powerful ponies, or two of the few remaining [[AscendedFanon alicorns]] after their race was nearly rendered extinct.
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extinct. With the introduction of "Age Spells" in "Magic Duel", spells that can alter the age of the target but can only be cast by the most powerful of casters, Princess Celestia and Princess Luna's immortality may not even be inherent but the product of repeated self-cast Age Spells (which would also explain Luna's difference in appearance between her first and second appearance).
* This is further complicated by the presence of Princess Cadance. Is she also a Physical Goddess? [[AllThereInTheManual We're told]] she's the niece of Princess Celestia, but she couldn't be Luna's child since Luna spent the last thousand years in the moon. So who are her parents? Is she also immortal and will outlive Shining Armor? Does she even have a blood relation to the Royal Pony Sisters? (It should be noted that Cadance was originally conceived as a unicorn but made an alicorn because of ExecutiveMeddling.)
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) ''Literature/TwilightSparkleAndTheCrystalHeartSpell'' expanded on Princess Cadence's backstory and where she came from: It is revealed that Cadence was originally an orphaned pegasus that was adopted by an earth pony village. A WickedWitch by the name of Prismia attacked the village by draining all their love for each other. Cadence somehow defeated her and was magically transported to the same "interstice" that Twilight went to when she completed Starswirl's unfinished spell. She met Princess Celestia there and was turned into an alicorn, adopted by Celestia, and made a princess herself. Whether this is canon or not is up in the air right now, but this is the closest thing to a backstory she has so far.



* Is [[LargeHam The Great and Powerful]] '''[[EnsembleDarkhorse TRRRIXIIEEE]]''' a {{Jerkass}}, or [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex insecure]]? Was Ponyville a lousy stop? Did the Mane Cast have the right to interrupt her show and performance with heckling? There's also a very large part of the fanbase that remains adamant that she is just as powerful, if not ''more'' powerful than Twilight, despite "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E6BoastBusters Boast Busters]]" showing that her special talent is in stage performance.

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Is [[LargeHam The Great and Powerful]] '''[[EnsembleDarkhorse TRRRIXIIEEE]]''' a {{Jerkass}}, or [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex insecure]]? Was Ponyville a lousy stop? Did the Mane Cast have the right to interrupt her show and performance with heckling? There's also a very large part of the fanbase that remains adamant that she is just as powerful, if not ''more'' powerful than Twilight, despite "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E6BoastBusters Boast Busters]]" showing that her special talent is in stage performance.



* [[OurGriffonsAreDifferent Gilda]] is viewed in a couple different ways, ranging from a full-on {{Jerkass}} thug who feels [[ClingyJealousGirl overly possessive]] of Dash, a JerkWithAHeartOfGold that got caught on a bad day, or a genuine CoolBigSis character tripped up by [[BlueAndOrangeMorality cultural boundaries]] which Rainbow Dash and Pinkie Pie [[PoorCommunicationKills didn't consider]] and [[DisproportionateRetribution overreacted to]]. Her second appearance in the show seemed to imply the latter.

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[[OurGriffonsAreDifferent Gilda]] is viewed in a couple different ways, ranging from a full-on {{Jerkass}} thug who feels [[ClingyJealousGirl overly possessive]] of Dash, a JerkWithAHeartOfGold that got caught on a bad day, or a genuine CoolBigSis character tripped up by [[BlueAndOrangeMorality cultural boundaries]] which Rainbow Dash and Pinkie Pie [[PoorCommunicationKills didn't consider]] and [[DisproportionateRetribution overreacted to]]. Her second appearance in the show seemed to imply the latter.



** Do the Changelings need to [[EmotionEater feed on love]] to survive, or is it merely a luxury that they use to become stronger? Are they innocent [[NonMaliciousMonster non-malicious mooks]] who can't help that their food source is draining the life out of ponies (often combined with the "their queen is pure evil" interpretation for extra [[TheWoobie Woobie]] points), or are they as aware as their queen and just don't care? A recent episode focusing on a turncoat changeling seems to suggest that they do indeed need to feed on love to survive, and their urge to feed on love is largely reflexive, and has to be actively suppressed. It also shows that most Changelings are born evil (at least to some extent). How common good Changelings are, and whether they can feed on alternative food sources at all, is still up in the air.

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** Do the Changelings need to [[EmotionEater feed on love]] to survive, or is it merely a luxury that they use to become stronger? Are they innocent [[NonMaliciousMonster non-malicious mooks]] who can't help that their food source is draining the life out of ponies (often combined with the "their queen is pure evil" interpretation for extra [[TheWoobie Woobie]] points), or are they as aware as their queen and just don't care? A recent An episode focusing on a turncoat changeling seems to suggest that they do indeed need to feed on love to survive, and their urge to feed on love is largely reflexive, and has to be actively suppressed. It also shows that most Changelings are born evil (at least to some extent). How common good Changelings are, and whether they can feed on alternative food sources at all, is still up in the air.



* Were Starlight's intentions really [[AntiVillain as well intentioned as she claimed]], or was she just trying to ensure [[spoiler:no one in Equestria but her had their Cutie Mark]]? Evidence is given for both.

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Were Starlight's intentions really [[AntiVillain as well intentioned as she claimed]], or was she just trying to ensure [[spoiler:no one in Equestria but her had their Cutie Mark]]? Evidence is given for both.



* Applejack's brother Big Macintosh has been portrayed in fanon as a [[GentleGiant simple, big-brother type]], a [[GeniusBruiser civilized, not-quite-country boy with a lot going on in his head]], and in the case of one particularly moving fanfic derived from a short three-panel comic, a [[ShellShockedVeteran veteran shocked or similarly motivated into silence by what he saw.]] Though all of them agree that he is a ChickMagnet.

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Applejack's brother Big Macintosh has been portrayed in fanon as a [[GentleGiant simple, big-brother type]], a [[GeniusBruiser civilized, not-quite-country boy with a lot going on in his head]], and in the case of one particularly moving fanfic derived from a short three-panel comic, a [[ShellShockedVeteran veteran shocked or similarly motivated into silence by what he saw.]] Though all of them agree that he is a ChickMagnet.
29th Aug '17 5:24:54 AM CelestialDraco
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** Celestia's tendency to do absolutely nothing other than sent Twilight and the gang after a percieved threat against Equestria, along with her utter [[CurbStompBattle curb-stomping]] by Chrysalis the one time she ''did'' try something (granted Chrysalis had a power boost, but you'd expect her to have at least been able to put up more of a fight than ''that'') and how Nightmare Moon had her on the ropes in their flashback battle until Celestia brandished the Elements of harmony, have made many fans question her strength. Is she actually powerful and holding back to do behind the scenes work, or just a BadassOnPaper who knows she doesn't have the power to do much of anything against a powerful enemy and has to hide behind others? [[spoiler:''The Cutie Remark'' showing that every single future of Equestria without Twilight and her friends is a [[BadFuture war-torn post-apocalyptic nightmare]] only serves to imply the latter until you realize the fact that the chronological order of villains means that each were taken care of - the one remaining is the one that got away.]] Later episodes have attempted to [[AuthorsSavingThrow address this]] by claiming she [[WillfullyWeak holds her power back]] out of fear of harming others, but it still doesn't explain why she tends to do ''nothing''.

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** Celestia's tendency to do absolutely nothing other than sent Twilight and the gang after a percieved threat against Equestria, along with her utter [[CurbStompBattle curb-stomping]] by Chrysalis the one time she ''did'' try something (granted Chrysalis had a power boost, but you'd expect her to have at least been able to put up more of a fight than ''that'') and how Nightmare Moon had her on the ropes in their flashback battle until Celestia brandished the Elements of harmony, have made many fans question her strength. Is she actually powerful and holding back to do behind the scenes work, or just a BadassOnPaper who knows she doesn't have the power to do much of anything against a powerful enemy and has to hide behind others? [[spoiler:''The Cutie Remark'' showing that every single future of Equestria without Twilight and her friends is a [[BadFuture war-torn post-apocalyptic nightmare]] only serves to imply the latter until you realize the fact that the chronological order of villains means that each were taken care of - the one remaining is the one that got away.]] Later episodes have attempted to [[AuthorsSavingThrow address this]] by claiming she [[WillfullyWeak holds her power back]] out of fear of harming others, but it still doesn't explain why she tends to do ''nothing''.others.
25th Aug '17 9:13:26 PM infernape612
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** Do the Changelings need to [[EmotionEater feed on love]] to survive, or is it merely a luxury that they use to become stronger? Are they innocent [[NonMaliciousMonster non-malicious mooks]] who can't help that their food source is draining the life out of ponies (often combined with the "their queen is pure evil" interpretation for extra [[TheWoobie Woobie]] points), or are they as aware as their queen and just don't care? A recent episode focussing on a turncoat changeling seems to suggest that they do indeed need to feed on love to survive, and their urge to feed on love is largely reflexive, and has to be actively supressed. It also shows that most Changelings are born evil (at least to some extent). How common good Changelings are, and whether they can feed on alternative food sources at all, is still up in the air.

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** Do the Changelings need to [[EmotionEater feed on love]] to survive, or is it merely a luxury that they use to become stronger? Are they innocent [[NonMaliciousMonster non-malicious mooks]] who can't help that their food source is draining the life out of ponies (often combined with the "their queen is pure evil" interpretation for extra [[TheWoobie Woobie]] points), or are they as aware as their queen and just don't care? A recent episode focussing focusing on a turncoat changeling seems to suggest that they do indeed need to feed on love to survive, and their urge to feed on love is largely reflexive, and has to be actively supressed.suppressed. It also shows that most Changelings are born evil (at least to some extent). How common good Changelings are, and whether they can feed on alternative food sources at all, is still up in the air.



* Lord Tirek seems to hold an extreme grudge towards his brother for betraying him (in self defence), and shows disgust for Twilight's loyalty to Discord despite selling her out. Given he himself backstabbed Discord as a stepping stone for his conquest, is this standard villainous MoralMyopia, or does he merely find contempt in said characters valuing and boasting the importance of friendship (which he openly devalues) [[AtLeastIAdmitIt despite having the same self serving tendencies]].

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* Lord Tirek seems to hold an extreme grudge towards his brother for betraying him (in self defence), and shows disgust for Twilight's loyalty to Discord despite selling her out. Given he himself backstabbed Discord as a stepping stone for his conquest, is this standard villainous MoralMyopia, or does he merely find contempt in said characters valuing and boasting the importance of friendship (which he openly devalues) [[AtLeastIAdmitIt despite having the same self serving tendencies]].tendencies]]?



** When she first appeared there were interpretations that she's a normal pony, possibly a baseball star, who only seemed unusual due to Discor screwing with everything.

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** When she first appeared there were interpretations that she's a normal pony, possibly a baseball star, who only seemed unusual due to Discor Discord screwing with everything. everything.



* Pinkie's sister, Maud Pie, has at least two interpretations to her character: Is her general behavior a sign of Autism, or did she deliberately behave in an asocial manner because she simply didn't want to be friends with Pinkie's friends?

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* Pinkie's sister, Maud Pie, has at least two interpretations to her character: Is her general behavior a sign of Autism, autism, or did does she deliberately behave in an asocial manner because she simply didn't doesn't want to be friends with Pinkie's friends?
25th Aug '17 9:03:15 PM infernape612
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** Rainbow Dash has several interpretations coming from fans and haters alike. In a few fics, she is a BitchInSheepsClothing who only helped Fluttershy to further her own evil goals, and really doesn't give a damn about anyone but herself. There's also Scootabuse to consider, which is basically Rainbow Dash being a {{Jerkass}} to Scootaloo most often for humour. Whenever she is not portrayed by a fan, many haters will have her be a straight up JerkAss instead of the lovable JerkWithAHeartOfGold we know from the show. Her ego is often Flanderized in fanworks such as ''Friendship Is Witchcraft'' to the point she can only really say her name. Often times, due to being an athlete, she is often portrayed as the token idiot of the group who doesn't know anything, even more than Applejack who was born and raised on a farm (and presumably never went to school). Rainbow Dash has many different fan interpretations, and to list them all would take up an entire page, but these are perhaps the most common.

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** Rainbow Dash has several interpretations coming from fans and haters alike. In a few fics, she is a BitchInSheepsClothing who only helped Fluttershy to further her own evil goals, and really doesn't give a damn about anyone but herself. There's also Scootabuse to consider, which is basically Rainbow Dash being a {{Jerkass}} to Scootaloo most often for humour. Whenever she is not portrayed by a fan, many haters will have her be a straight up JerkAss {{Jerkass}} instead of the lovable JerkWithAHeartOfGold we know from the show. Her ego is often Flanderized in fanworks such as ''Friendship Is Witchcraft'' to the point she can only really say her name. Often times, due to being an athlete, she is often portrayed as the token idiot of the group who doesn't know anything, even more than Applejack who was born and raised on a farm (and presumably never went to school). Rainbow Dash has many different fan interpretations, and to list them all would take up an entire page, but these are perhaps the most common.



*** Speaking of "Putting Your Hoof Down", did the entire town of Ponyville just happen to take about [[TookALevelInJerkAss twelve levels of jerk-ass]] or, since this is the only time we've seen Fluttershy interact with them in general, is this how they [[FridgeHorror always treat her]]? It might explain why she tends to prefer the company of animals.
*** The episode itself has received this, with some believing it is actually a WholeEpisodeFlashback to a time ''before'' Twilight arrived, since Angel was never that much of a JerkAss in earlier episodes and Fluttershy herself isn't that timid in earlier episodes.

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*** Speaking of "Putting Your Hoof Down", did the entire town of Ponyville just happen to take about [[TookALevelInJerkAss [[TookALevelInJerkass twelve levels of jerk-ass]] or, since this is the only time we've seen Fluttershy interact with them in general, is this how they [[FridgeHorror always treat her]]? It might explain why she tends to prefer the company of animals.
*** The episode itself has received this, with some believing it is actually a WholeEpisodeFlashback to a time ''before'' Twilight arrived, since Angel was never that much of a JerkAss {{Jerkass}} in earlier episodes and Fluttershy herself isn't that timid in earlier episodes.



** Others have suggested that Trixie suffers from an InferioritySuperiorityComplex; she didn't make it in magic school because she was a bully whose only real talent was using her telekinesis to pick on others compared to other unicorns that can do much more ''useful'' magic. Similar to common fan theories about Applebloom's nemesis Diamond Tiara, this theory holds that Trixie is such a showboating JerkAss because her talent is nothing special and she's desperate to convince herself and everypony else otherwise.
* [[OurGriffonsAreDifferent Gilda]] is viewed in a couple different ways, ranging from a full-on JerkAss thug who feels [[ClingyJealousGirl overly possessive]] of Dash, a JerkWithAHeartOfGold that got caught on a bad day, or a genuine CoolBigSis character tripped up by [[BlueAndOrangeMorality cultural boundaries]] which Rainbow Dash and Pinkie Pie [[PoorCommunicationKills didn't consider]] and [[DisproportionateRetribution overreacted to]]. Her second appearance in the show seemed to imply the latter.

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** Others have suggested that Trixie suffers from an InferioritySuperiorityComplex; she didn't make it in magic school because she was a bully whose only real talent was using her telekinesis to pick on others compared to other unicorns that can do much more ''useful'' magic. Similar to common fan theories about Applebloom's nemesis Diamond Tiara, this theory holds that Trixie is such a showboating JerkAss {{Jerkass}} because her talent is nothing special and she's desperate to convince herself and everypony else otherwise.
* [[OurGriffonsAreDifferent Gilda]] is viewed in a couple different ways, ranging from a full-on JerkAss {{Jerkass}} thug who feels [[ClingyJealousGirl overly possessive]] of Dash, a JerkWithAHeartOfGold that got caught on a bad day, or a genuine CoolBigSis character tripped up by [[BlueAndOrangeMorality cultural boundaries]] which Rainbow Dash and Pinkie Pie [[PoorCommunicationKills didn't consider]] and [[DisproportionateRetribution overreacted to]]. Her second appearance in the show seemed to imply the latter.



** His relationship with Twilight; Is it a platonic/obsessive friendly antagonistic relationship much like Q and Picard? Or is it that Discord has a FoeYaY with Twilight? It seems that Twilight is the only one he sees as a WorthyOpponent and constantly teases her like a childish boy does to girls he likes. His friendship with Fluttershy could be a way to get in good with her social circle and start making his moves there. To add ACI on that, is his relationship with Twilight a mirror image of his relationship with Celestia? Could it be now that Twilight is an Alicron, he's projecting his feelings of Celestia onto Twilight?

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** His relationship with Twilight; Is it a platonic/obsessive friendly antagonistic relationship much like Q and Picard? Or is it that Discord has a FoeYaY FoeYay with Twilight? It seems that Twilight is the only one he sees as a WorthyOpponent and constantly teases her like a childish boy does to girls he likes. His friendship with Fluttershy could be a way to get in good with her social circle and start making his moves there. To add ACI on that, is his relationship with Twilight a mirror image of his relationship with Celestia? Could it be now that Twilight is an Alicron, he's projecting his feelings of Celestia onto Twilight?
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* Is Queen Chrysalis a bad guy seeking to subjugate an entire nation to make her and her minions stronger, a JerkassWoobie who is a victim of her upbringing, or a WellIntentionedExtremist who just wanted to feed her people?

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* Is Queen Chrysalis a bad guy seeking to subjugate an entire nation to make her and her minions stronger, a JerkassWoobie who is a victim of her upbringing, or a WellIntentionedExtremist who just wanted to feed her people?people? ''To Where And Back Again'' made it pretty clear her biggest priority is looking out for number 1, but these questions ''still'' stand.


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** ''To Where And Back Again'' has the changelings transform into colorful beetle-looking things when Thorax takes up the throne. This [[VoodooShark raised new questions without answering a single old one...]]
19th Jul '17 9:51:56 AM gophergiggles
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** It isn't even clear what Nightmare Moon WAS, given that once the Elements of Harmony were used on her, she reverted to Princess Luna, who is far more mild-mannered. Was she brainwashed by the elements, or was Nightmare Moon some sort of possessing force that Celestia herself could not extricate? [[ComicBook/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDW The IDW comics]] seem to indicate that Nightmare Moon was the result of an outside force, given that [[spoiler:they possess Rarity and make her their new Nightmare Queen]]. However, it's not clear if the show treats the comics as canon, though the episode "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E1PrincessTwilightSparklePart1 Princess Twilight Sparkle]]" involves a magically-induced flashback to the birth of Nightmare Moon, where Luna is seen to be enveloped in an orb of shadowy magic while in the middle of a rant against her sister. She doesn't appear to be the one causing said magic and is in fact ''thoroughly'' freaked out, so the "possessed by an outside force" explanation looks far more likely now, though it is sadly not followed up on.

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** It isn't even clear what Nightmare Moon WAS, given that once the Elements of Harmony were used on her, she reverted to Princess Luna, who is far more mild-mannered. Was she brainwashed by the elements, or was Nightmare Moon some sort of possessing force that Celestia herself could not extricate? [[ComicBook/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDW The IDW comics]] seem to indicate that Nightmare Moon was the result of an outside force, given that [[spoiler:they possess Rarity and make her their new Nightmare Queen]]. However, it's not clear if the show treats the comics as canon, though the episode "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E1PrincessTwilightSparklePart1 Princess Twilight Sparkle]]" involves a magically-induced flashback to the birth and ''Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep'' centered entirely around her addressing her guilt of becoming Nightmare Moon, where Luna is seen to be enveloped in an orb Moon of shadowy magic while in her own accord with absolutely no mention of the middle of a rant against her sister. She doesn't appear to be the one causing said magic and is in fact ''thoroughly'' freaked out, so the "possessed by an outside force" explanation looks far more likely now, though it is sadly not followed up on.Nightmare Forces.
19th Jul '17 9:49:10 AM gophergiggles
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** Celestia's tendency to do absolutely nothing other than sent Twilight and the gang after a percieved threat against Equestria, along with her utter [[CurbStompBattle curb-stomping]] by Chrysalis the one time she ''did'' try something (granted Chrysalis had a power boost, but you'd expect her to have at least been able to put up more of a fight than ''that'') and how Nightmare Moon had her on the ropes in their flashback battle until Celestia brandished the Elements of harmony, have made many fans question her strength. Is she actually powerful and holding back to do behind the scenes work, or just a BadassOnPaper who knows she doesn't have the power to do much of anything against a powerful enemy and has to hide behind others? [[spoiler:''The Cutie Remark'' showing that every single future of Equestria without Twilight and her friends is a [[BadFuture war-torn post-apocalyptic nightmare]] only serves to imply the latter until you realize the fact that the chronological order of villains means that each were taken care of - the one remaining is the one that got away.]]

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** Celestia's tendency to do absolutely nothing other than sent Twilight and the gang after a percieved threat against Equestria, along with her utter [[CurbStompBattle curb-stomping]] by Chrysalis the one time she ''did'' try something (granted Chrysalis had a power boost, but you'd expect her to have at least been able to put up more of a fight than ''that'') and how Nightmare Moon had her on the ropes in their flashback battle until Celestia brandished the Elements of harmony, have made many fans question her strength. Is she actually powerful and holding back to do behind the scenes work, or just a BadassOnPaper who knows she doesn't have the power to do much of anything against a powerful enemy and has to hide behind others? [[spoiler:''The Cutie Remark'' showing that every single future of Equestria without Twilight and her friends is a [[BadFuture war-torn post-apocalyptic nightmare]] only serves to imply the latter until you realize the fact that the chronological order of villains means that each were taken care of - the one remaining is the one that got away.]]]] Later episodes have attempted to [[AuthorsSavingThrow address this]] by claiming she [[WillfullyWeak holds her power back]] out of fear of harming others, but it still doesn't explain why she tends to do ''nothing''.
8th Jul '17 3:39:13 PM JJHIL325
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** "Crusaders of the Lost Mark" shows she has some ''extreme'' mommy issues and, after standing up to her mother, she gets her first genuine PetTheDog moment. Whether it leads to a full-on HeelFaceTurn or a FriendlyEnemy at best is still up in the air, however.

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** "Crusaders of the Lost Mark" shows she has some ''extreme'' mommy issues and, after standing up to her mother, she gets her first genuine PetTheDog moment. Whether it leads to a full-on HeelFaceTurn or a FriendlyEnemy at best is still up in the air, however.however, as she hasn't had a proper apperance as of the first half of Season 7.
9th Jun '17 12:23:11 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** This Troper had an idea that might seems silly, but interesting: Dragon Tales had dragons that looked somewhat like him like Cassie the Pink Dragon. While most of the dragons had wings, there was one dragon in a wheelchair that had no wings. So, either Dragon Land is somewhere nearby and Princess Celestia got the egg from there or something happened to two dragon mates that went to the dragon area in Equestria and she found the egg...
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