History AlternativeCharacterInterpretation / LiveActionTV

15th Jun '16 5:35:59 PM StFan
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* MightyMorphinPowerRangers: Zordon, a wise sage or using [[ChildSoldiers teenagers to fight his battles]] for his own possibly shady means, likely breaking intergalactic law. As for the Rangers themselves, goody-good role models for the youth of the nineties, or {{Jerkass}}es to two people (possibly with learning troubles) perceived to be bullies but only needed friends/find out the rangers' identities.

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* MightyMorphinPowerRangers: ''Series/MightyMorphinPowerRangers'':
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Zordon, a wise sage or using [[ChildSoldiers teenagers to fight his battles]] for his own possibly shady means, likely breaking intergalactic law. As for the Rangers themselves, goody-good role models for the youth of the nineties, or {{Jerkass}}es to two people (possibly with learning troubles) perceived to be bullies but only needed friends/find out the rangers' identities.
5th Jun '16 8:50:17 PM TimeTravelerJessica
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* * ''Series/AgentsOfShield'': While no one will argue that Ward is not a villain, the agents exhibit behavior that can make them [[DesignatedHero designated heroes]], and it can also be argued that the sole reason they care about the Inhumans at all is because of Daisy/Skye.
** The DesignatedHero actions of Coulson in the first season are elaborated on in [[http://nerdcentralofficial.blogspot.com/2016/01/a-knight-in-tarnished-armor-why-this.html this blog post]] which straddles this trope and RonTheDeathEater.



* ''Series/AgentsOfShield'': While no one will argue that Ward is a villain, the agents exhibit behavior that can make them DesignatedHeroes, and it can also be argued that the sole reason they care about the Inhumans at all is because of Daisy/Skye.

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* ''Series/AgentsOfShield'': While no one will argue that Ward is a villain, the agents exhibit behavior that can make them DesignatedHeroes, and it can also be argued that the sole reason they care about the Inhumans at all is because of Daisy/Skye.
20th May '16 2:17:58 PM Doug86
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** Is Geordi [=LaForge=] merely an unlucky-in-love GadgeteerGenius, or is there something more to it? Over the course of the series, all of his closest personal relationships have been formed in one way or another with machines. He's chief engineer of a starship, his best friend is an Android, he later befriends a Borg drone, and he once fell in love with the ship's computer in the guise of a computer-generated simulation of the woman who designed the ''Enterprise''. When he finally meets the real her, he finds her lacking; they eventually end up friends, but it's made clear it won't go further... Clearly, his own biomechanical augmentation has isolated him socially from his fellow Human beings, and he tends to relate better to machines. Since most humans in the Franchise/StarTrek [[TheVerse 'verse]] have severe prejudices against machines and computers, Geordi has to hide his preference behind the facade of doomed brief relationships. Geordi is married by the end of the series in one possible future timeline, and Picard clearly says that her name is Leah--the aforementioned starship designer. Clearly Geordi's luck could turn around at some point. Also, in the episode "Hide and Q," Riker is offered the powers of a Q and he grants Geordi sight. The first thing Geordie does is look at Tasha Yar and exclaim that she's just as beautiful as he'd always imagined her... He was blind ''from birth.'' What could his imagination have granted him that the VISOR didn't? Or is Tasha ''that'' beautiful? This could be one of those intentionally doomed relationships that he built up in his mind. Perhaps he was so completely in the closet about [[WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}} his robosexual feelings]] that he had to hide them even from himself. It would even explain why he asked Riker to take back his gift. "Leah Brahms [=LaForge=]" is not a complete joss, not once Voyager's EMH gets hold of that tech that lets him leave the true holodecks. That came too late to allow Geordi to intend to go for hologram!Leah canonically, but the topic's open for EpilepticTrees. The main reason Leah and Geordi didn't hit it of when they met in real life is because she was already married at the time. In the [[StarTrekNovelVerse novel "Genesis Wave"]], Leah's husband was killed, and in [[Literature/StarTrekTheNextGenerationRelaunch "Indistinguishable From Magic"]] Geordi and Leah finally get a RelationshipUpgrade.

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** Is Geordi [=LaForge=] merely an unlucky-in-love GadgeteerGenius, or is there something more to it? Over the course of the series, all of his closest personal relationships have been formed in one way or another with machines. He's chief engineer of a starship, his best friend is an Android, he later befriends a Borg drone, and he once fell in love with the ship's computer in the guise of a computer-generated simulation of the woman who designed the ''Enterprise''. When he finally meets the real her, he finds her lacking; they eventually end up friends, but it's made clear it won't go further... Clearly, his own biomechanical augmentation has isolated him socially from his fellow Human beings, and he tends to relate better to machines. Since most humans in the Franchise/StarTrek [[TheVerse 'verse]] have severe prejudices against machines and computers, Geordi has to hide his preference behind the facade of doomed brief relationships. Geordi is married by the end of the series in one possible future timeline, and Picard clearly says that her name is Leah--the aforementioned starship designer. Clearly Geordi's luck could turn around at some point. Also, in the episode "Hide and Q," Riker is offered the powers of a Q and he grants Geordi sight. The first thing Geordie does is look at Tasha Yar and exclaim that she's just as beautiful as he'd always imagined her... He was blind ''from birth.'' What could his imagination have granted him that the VISOR didn't? Or is Tasha ''that'' beautiful? This could be one of those intentionally doomed relationships that he built up in his mind. Perhaps he was so completely in the closet about [[WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}} his robosexual feelings]] that he had to hide them even from himself. It would even explain why he asked Riker to take back his gift. "Leah Brahms [=LaForge=]" is not a complete joss, not once Voyager's EMH gets hold of that tech that lets him leave the true holodecks. That came too late to allow Geordi to intend to go for hologram!Leah canonically, but the topic's open for EpilepticTrees. The main reason Leah and Geordi didn't hit it of when they met in real life is because she was already married at the time. In the [[StarTrekNovelVerse [[Franchise/StarTrekNovelVerse novel "Genesis Wave"]], Leah's husband was killed, and in [[Literature/StarTrekTheNextGenerationRelaunch "Indistinguishable From Magic"]] Geordi and Leah finally get a RelationshipUpgrade.
19th May '16 10:03:30 PM KeithM
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* There are two competing alternate theories about ''Series/{{Columbo}}'' (other than ObfuscatingStupidity). One is that he's a GeniusDitz. The other is that he isn't smart at all. He himself claims in one episode that the main reason he's successful is that he's a professional with years of experience in hunting murderers, while most of the murderers he captures are amateurs who are doing it for the first time and thus making rookie mistakes.

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* There are two competing alternate theories about ''Series/{{Columbo}}'' (other than ObfuscatingStupidity). One is that he's a GeniusDitz. The other is that he isn't that smart at all.all, being merely of average intelligence. He himself claims in one episode that the main reason he's successful is that he's a professional with years of experience in hunting murderers, while most of the murderers he captures are amateurs who are doing it for the first time and thus making rookie mistakes.
19th May '16 9:41:54 PM nombretomado
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* ''PeepShow'':

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* ''PeepShow'':''Series/PeepShow'':



* PowerRangersMysticForce: Daggeron. [[TheMentor The heroic, noble mentor?]] Or a [[FallenHero once kind-hearted warrior]] who lost his ability to feel for others after his friend [[FaceHeelTurn turned to]] [[DrunkOntheDarkSide evil;]] reduced to capturing a [[TooDumbToLive poor exile]] and shutting him away inside a self-designed torture device, [[PoweredByAForsakenChild weaponizing the poor sap's magical powers]] under the pretext of saving his life, all the while feeling no remorse for [[DrillSergeantNasty pushing five inexperienced wizards to near-death]], [[ChildSoldiers as if they were pawns,]] [[HonorBeforeReason for the sole sake of defeating the enemy?]]

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* PowerRangersMysticForce: ''Series/PowerRangersMysticForce'': Daggeron. [[TheMentor The heroic, noble mentor?]] Or a [[FallenHero once kind-hearted warrior]] who lost his ability to feel for others after his friend [[FaceHeelTurn turned to]] [[DrunkOntheDarkSide evil;]] reduced to capturing a [[TooDumbToLive poor exile]] and shutting him away inside a self-designed torture device, [[PoweredByAForsakenChild weaponizing the poor sap's magical powers]] under the pretext of saving his life, all the while feeling no remorse for [[DrillSergeantNasty pushing five inexperienced wizards to near-death]], [[ChildSoldiers as if they were pawns,]] [[HonorBeforeReason for the sole sake of defeating the enemy?]]
14th May '16 11:12:58 PM nombretomado
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* [[http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/tv/la-et-draper-devil-20100723,0,691089.story This "Los Angeles Times" article]] makes a case for [[MadMen Don Draper]] [[EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory actually being]] ''{{Satan}}'', "lowering everyone's standards a little at a time".

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* [[http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/tv/la-et-draper-devil-20100723,0,691089.story This "Los Angeles Times" article]] makes a case for [[MadMen [[Series/MadMen Don Draper]] [[EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory actually being]] ''{{Satan}}'', "lowering everyone's standards a little at a time".
14th May '16 12:32:04 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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* This trope has been invoked on ''{{Reno 911}}''. Characters on the show have claimed that the show's producers purposely edit footage to make the Sheriff's Department look more incompetent and idiotic than they really are.

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* This trope has been invoked on ''{{Reno ''Series/{{Reno 911}}''. Characters on the show have claimed that the show's producers purposely edit footage to make the Sheriff's Department look more incompetent and idiotic than they really are.
10th May '16 11:06:50 PM erforce
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* In RoyalPains, is the brother Evan an annoying [[TheLoad load]], or a competent accountant and the only thing keeping his passive doctor brother from starving to death?
* Cameron from ''Series/TheSarahConnorChronicles''. We know that she is capable of feeling emotions -- she becomes ''very'' emotional whenever she becomes Allison Young -- but she generally suppresses them whenever she's in her main persona. To make things even more confusing, she is apparently capable of realistically faking any human emotion. Even that can't explain all of her behavior; she sometimes behaves emotionally even when no one is watching. It makes sense to think that she does have emotions, but they are secondary to her primary function: protect John Connor at any cost. Even more complicated yet--a lack of emotional behavior on her part might ''indicate'' emotions. In one episode, Cameron displayed flat, monotonous, sincere concern for John's mental health and happiness, contrasted with another Terminator perfectly faking normal, human affection. It is actually up in the air as to whether Cameron truly does care for John's emotional well-being, or if she is simply a cold machine that knowingly manipulates his emotions and feelings in order to keep him safe. Both concepts have their support in canon, as Cameron does ''seem'' to care about John, but at the same time there are several scenes which show her using both his feelings for her and his feelings for others to manipulate him.

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* In RoyalPains, ''Series/RoyalPains'', is the brother Evan an annoying [[TheLoad load]], or a competent accountant and the only thing keeping his passive doctor brother from starving to death?
* Cameron from ''Series/TheSarahConnorChronicles''. We know that she is capable of feeling emotions -- she becomes ''very'' emotional whenever she becomes Allison Young -- but she generally suppresses them whenever she's in her main persona. To make things even more confusing, she is apparently capable of realistically faking any human emotion. Even that can't explain all of her behavior; she sometimes behaves emotionally even when no one is watching. It makes sense to think that she does have emotions, but they are secondary to her primary function: protect John Connor at any cost. Even more complicated yet--a lack of emotional behavior on her part might ''indicate'' emotions. In one episode, Cameron displayed flat, monotonous, sincere concern for John's mental health and happiness, contrasted with another Terminator perfectly faking normal, human affection. It is actually up in the air as to whether Cameron truly does care for John's emotional well-being, or if she is simply a cold machine that knowingly manipulates his emotions and feelings in order to keep him safe. Both concepts have their support in canon, as Cameron does ''seem'' to care about John, but at the same time there are several scenes which show her using both his feelings for her and his feelings for others to manipulate him.
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* The gang of Eric, Donna, Hyde, Jackie, Michael and Fez of ''That70sShow'' ; Morons who make bad decisions or just people who grew up in crappy families and neglectful/abusive parents and did their best to do the right thing?

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* Cameron from ''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles''. We know that she is capable of feeling emotions -- she becomes ''very'' emotional whenever she becomes Allison Young -- but she generally suppresses them whenever she's in her main persona. To make things even more confusing, she is apparently capable of realistically faking any human emotion. Even that can't explain all of her behavior; she sometimes behaves emotionally even when no one is watching. It makes sense to think that she does have emotions, but they are secondary to her primary function: protect John Connor at any cost. Even more complicated yet--a lack of emotional behavior on her part might ''indicate'' emotions. In one episode, Cameron displayed flat, monotonous, sincere concern for John's mental health and happiness, contrasted with another Terminator perfectly faking normal, human affection. It is actually up in the air as to whether Cameron truly does care for John's emotional well-being, or if she is simply a cold machine that knowingly manipulates his emotions and feelings in order to keep him safe. Both concepts have their support in canon, as Cameron does ''seem'' to care about John, but at the same time there are several scenes which show her using both his feelings for her and his feelings for others to manipulate him.
* The gang of Eric, Donna, Hyde, Jackie, Michael and Fez of ''That70sShow'' ''Series/That70sShow'' ; Morons who make bad decisions or just people who grew up in crappy families and neglectful/abusive parents and did their best to do the right thing?
7th May '16 5:16:09 PM nombretomado
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* Meredith on ''GreysAnatomy''. Strong feministic character, or selfish, unfeeling bitch?

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* Meredith on ''GreysAnatomy''.''Series/GreysAnatomy''. Strong feministic character, or selfish, unfeeling bitch?



* Season 4 of HannahMontana finds Miley Stewart, now an 18-year-old high school graduate going through personal changes, ruminating on her future, choosing to stabilize her offstage life by abandoning the carefully controlled, glittery, perfect-perfect "Hannah Montana" pop star persona that made her famous since she was a small child, and revealing herself as a human, flawed, less glamorous teenage girl. She is unfairly scrutinized and harassed by the press, her image is somewhat damaged, she finds she cannot lead an ordinary life or escape from the pressure or the paparazzi, many of her longtime fans and their parents are disappointed in her, and she has to learn to perform and conduct herself in this new incarnation. Her fanbase is reluctant to accept her new artistic and personal directions, though Miley decides she alone must go in a direction she feels happiest in regardless of the backlash, and ultimately, she takes time off to begin the next chapter in her life away from the spotlight and her "Hannah" past. Perhaps a metaphor for MileyCyrus' own career?

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* Season 4 of HannahMontana ''Series/HannahMontana'' finds Miley Stewart, now an 18-year-old high school graduate going through personal changes, ruminating on her future, choosing to stabilize her offstage life by abandoning the carefully controlled, glittery, perfect-perfect "Hannah Montana" pop star persona that made her famous since she was a small child, and revealing herself as a human, flawed, less glamorous teenage girl. She is unfairly scrutinized and harassed by the press, her image is somewhat damaged, she finds she cannot lead an ordinary life or escape from the pressure or the paparazzi, many of her longtime fans and their parents are disappointed in her, and she has to learn to perform and conduct herself in this new incarnation. Her fanbase is reluctant to accept her new artistic and personal directions, though Miley decides she alone must go in a direction she feels happiest in regardless of the backlash, and ultimately, she takes time off to begin the next chapter in her life away from the spotlight and her "Hannah" past. Perhaps a metaphor for MileyCyrus' own career?
7th May '16 1:35:09 PM nombretomado
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* Interpretation for GilmoreGirls: Lorelai and Rory are self-absorbed and are given a lot of leeway by almost everyone they know and almost the whole town of Stars Hollow. The only exceptions seem to be Lorelai's parents and Jess (of all people). Lorelai styled herself as a young and cool mom, but she gave bad parenting advice, and she came off to some as extremely immature and judgmental. Luke and the whole town are oblivious to this. Dean gave off emotionally abusive vibes in his scenes with Rory, especially considering that he cheated on his wife with her. The only people who got positive character development were Paris and Jess.

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* Interpretation for GilmoreGirls: ''Series/GilmoreGirls'': Lorelai and Rory are self-absorbed and are given a lot of leeway by almost everyone they know and almost the whole town of Stars Hollow. The only exceptions seem to be Lorelai's parents and Jess (of all people). Lorelai styled herself as a young and cool mom, but she gave bad parenting advice, and she came off to some as extremely immature and judgmental. Luke and the whole town are oblivious to this. Dean gave off emotionally abusive vibes in his scenes with Rory, especially considering that he cheated on his wife with her. The only people who got positive character development were Paris and Jess.
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