History AlternativeCharacterInterpretation / Film

1st Dec '16 10:32:56 AM Furienna
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*** Roger Ebert opposes this interpretation on the grounds that it violates the implicit rules of film: "When I taught the film, I had endless discussions with my students over this scene. Many insisted on explaining it: [[spoiler: He is walking on a hidden sandbar, the water is only half an inch deep, there is a submerged pier, etc.]] 'Not valid!' I thundered. 'The movie presents us with an image, and while you may discuss the meaning of the image it is not permitted to devise explanations for it. Since Ashby does not show [[spoiler: a pier]], there is no [[spoiler: pier]] -- a movie is exactly what it shows us, and nothing more.'"

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*** Roger Ebert opposes this interpretation on the grounds that it violates the implicit rules of film: "When I taught the film, I had endless discussions with my students over this scene. Many insisted on explaining it: [[spoiler: He is walking on a hidden sandbar, the water is only half an inch deep, there is a submerged pier, etc.]] 'Not valid!' I thundered. 'The movie presents us with an image, and while you may discuss the meaning of the image it is not permitted to devise explanations for it. Since Ashby does not show [[spoiler: a pier]], there is no [[spoiler: pier]] -- - a movie is exactly what it shows us, and nothing more.'"



** Some people with AS are particularly under- or over-sensitive to specific sensory input. Taste hypersensitivity, for example, can easily manifest as a marked preference for relatively tasteless food - which would explain the character's predilection for dry white toast.

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** Some people with AS are particularly under- under - or over-sensitive over -sensitive to specific sensory input. input, which might be another reason why Elwood likes to wear sunglasses (he is more sensitive than others to sunlight). Taste hypersensitivity, for example, hypersensitivity can easily manifest itself as a marked preference for relatively tasteless food - which would explain the character's predilection for dry white toast.



** That's the intended interpretation (probably), but change one small assumption of the movie, and you get a PerspectiveFlip. The filmmakers see sexual intercourse out of wedlock as something to aspire to; the Church (and this includes the ''real'' Roman Catholic Church) views it as a '''sin.''' Recall that adultery is a sin spoken of in some of the harshest terms because it corrupts the body as well as the soul. Casanova was not only someone in deep need of salvation, but someone who was placing stumbling block after stumbling block in the path of others on their road to salvation -- which is a sin in itself. The previous local head of the inquisition, while seeking to capture and convict Casanova, has attempted to convict Casanova in the past and might have shown some leniency had he been able to force Casanova to clean up his act without the interference of the Doge. Further, even after choosing a woman to devote himself too, Casanova is never shown to ''marry'' her, which means he hasn't given up his incorrigible ways altogether. He's still having escapades -- he's just narrowed the focus considerably. Finally, the young man he left in his place continues the line of sexual escapades; before the interference of Casanova, he was eager to devote himself to a single particular woman.

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** That's the intended interpretation (probably), but change one small assumption of the movie, and you get a PerspectiveFlip. The filmmakers see sexual intercourse out of wedlock as something to aspire to; the Church (and this includes the ''real'' Roman Catholic Church) views it as a '''sin.''' Recall that adultery is a sin spoken of in some of the harshest terms because it corrupts the body as well as the soul. Casanova was not only someone in deep need of salvation, but someone who was placing stumbling block after stumbling block in the path of others on their road to salvation -- - which is a sin in itself. The previous local head of the inquisition, while seeking to capture and convict Casanova, has attempted to convict Casanova in the past and might have shown some leniency had he been able to force Casanova to clean up his act without the interference of the Doge. Further, even after choosing a woman to devote himself too, Casanova is never shown to ''marry'' her, which means he hasn't given up his incorrigible ways altogether. He's still having escapades -- - he's just narrowed the focus considerably. Finally, the young man he left in his place continues the line of sexual escapades; before the interference of Casanova, he was eager to devote himself to a single particular woman.



** In the book, the Oompa Loompas are an explicit case of ValuesDissonance -- they're ''pygmies''. In the Gene Wilder version, Wonka sees them as completely dependent on his good will, so much so that he chooses his successor solely on how he believes that successor will treat them; this could make him the leader of a ''{{cult}}''. In the Creator/JohnnyDepp version, they're privacy-loving immigrants; given that Wonka's a CloudCuckooLander, it must be a laid-back job.

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** In the book, the Oompa Loompas are an explicit case of ValuesDissonance -- - they're ''pygmies''. In the Gene Wilder version, Wonka sees them as completely dependent on his good will, so much so that he chooses his successor solely on how he believes that successor will treat them; this could make him the leader of a ''{{cult}}''. In the Creator/JohnnyDepp version, they're privacy-loving immigrants; given that Wonka's a CloudCuckooLander, it must be a laid-back job.



** Kyoko: [[spoiler: Her actions are consistent with her being just a non-sentient mechanical butler without volition that could follow instructions, which may be why Nathan felt safe letting her have the run of the compound while carefully keeping more advanced models in a locked room. Ava's whispering to Kyoko could have been giving her orders about using the knife (after which Kyoko just stood there as if awaiting further instructions until Nathan struck her down), and Kyoko's reveal to Caleb was implied to be something Nathan had instructed her to do to mess with Caleb. However, there are several moments that suggest she feels genuine emotion. After Nathan shouts at her for spilling the wine, there is a shot of her in the corridor looking extremely upset. And after she stabs him, she caresses his face as a deliberate callback to the way she did in the scene where they had sex--the same way Ava threw Caleb's words back at him. Whether she has any measure of awareness or not is up to the viewer]].

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** Kyoko: [[spoiler: Her actions are consistent with her being just a non-sentient mechanical butler without volition that could follow instructions, which may be why Nathan felt safe letting her have the run of the compound while carefully keeping more advanced models in a locked room. Ava's whispering to Kyoko could have been giving her orders about using the knife (after which Kyoko just stood there as if awaiting further instructions until Nathan struck her down), and Kyoko's reveal to Caleb was implied to be something Nathan had instructed her to do to mess with Caleb. However, there are several moments that suggest she feels genuine emotion. After Nathan shouts at her for spilling the wine, there is a shot of her in the corridor looking extremely upset. And after she stabs him, she caresses his face as a deliberate callback to the way she did in the scene where they had sex--the sex - the same way Ava threw Caleb's words back at him. Whether she has any measure of awareness or not is up to the viewer]].



** Or another interpretation:[[spoiler: The past was his wife's novel written by a historian, the present is what is actually happening, and the end is his attempt to end the novel using his own knowledge pool -- science -- to finish what his wife started. The trip through space is a literary coping mechanism for his failure to save her.]]

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** Or another interpretation:[[spoiler: The past was his wife's novel written by a historian, the present is what is actually happening, and the end is his attempt to end the novel using his own knowledge pool -- - science -- - to finish what his wife started. The trip through space is a literary coping mechanism for his failure to save her.]]



** The next time Neville goes out to scout around, he gets caught in the same type of fall trap he used to catch the female ghoul. Then the same male ghoul sics a pack of ghoul-dogs on Neville while he is incapacitated. Those are not the actions of a dumb brute; he learns and plans ahead. So this ghoul probably retained his intellect even if his behavior has regressed. Or his behavior hadn't regressed -- he was ignoring physical pain to deal with something even more important. Or the difference between Neville and the rest of remaining humanity is the same as it's always been: elitism, and the belief that the best should lead or improve the herd.

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** The next time Neville goes out to scout around, he gets caught in the same type of fall trap he used to catch the female ghoul. Then the same male ghoul sics a pack of ghoul-dogs on Neville while he is incapacitated. Those are not the actions of a dumb brute; he learns and plans ahead. So this ghoul probably retained his intellect even if his behavior has regressed. Or his behavior hadn't regressed -- - he was ignoring physical pain to deal with something even more important. Or the difference between Neville and the rest of remaining humanity is the same as it's always been: elitism, and the belief that the best should lead or improve the herd.



* ''Film/TheInterview'' (starring Hugo Weaving) makes this its central theme. The main character is taken from his home and interrogated ruthlessly by two police officers. The senior officer is [[InspectorJavert dead-set on convicting our poor protagonist]] and seems malicious by the end -- but there are hints that the protagonist may not be entirely innocent. People have debated this. There are opinions that support and opinions that reject the protagonist's innocence. The alternate ending of the movie practically says he's guilty; that it was cut supports open interpretation of the final cut.

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* ''Film/TheInterview'' (starring Hugo Weaving) makes this its central theme. The main character is taken from his home and interrogated ruthlessly by two police officers. The senior officer is [[InspectorJavert dead-set on convicting our poor protagonist]] and seems malicious by the end -- - but there are hints that the protagonist may not be entirely innocent. People have debated this. There are opinions that support and opinions that reject the protagonist's innocence. The alternate ending of the movie practically says he's guilty; that it was cut supports open interpretation of the final cut.



* The creators of ''Film/SupermanReturns'' appear to have had it in mind that Superman was to be a Christian Allegory or at-least an all-around boy-scout. This is kind-of undermined by [[spoiler: how he turns out to be the father of Lois' child meaning he either slept with her without her knowing he was Clark, or Jason was conceived in ''Superman II'' and he impregnated her during the night they spent together which he erased from her memory--along with everything else--at the end of the film]].

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* The creators of ''Film/SupermanReturns'' appear to have had it in mind that Superman was to be a Christian Allegory or at-least an all-around boy-scout. This is kind-of undermined by [[spoiler: how he turns out to be the father of Lois' child meaning he either slept with her without her knowing he was Clark, or Jason was conceived in ''Superman II'' and he impregnated her during the night they spent together which he erased from her memory--along memory - along with everything else--at else - at the end of the film]].



** An alternative to this is that Optimus is a nice guy -- in general. It's just that, over the millennia of war, he's decided that the only way to stop the Decepticons is to take them out lest they destroy even more. It's possible that he tried to take prisoners before, and they escaped and caused even more damage. And the Fallen is an interdimensional being ([[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/The_Fallen according to the TFWiki entry]]), which means that the Fallen has tried to do this in multiple universes, which means that he's not likely to repent any time soon. Assuming Optimus knew this, he decided that he wouldn't give the Fallen a chance to try again and kill him. And his obsession with facial {{gorn}}? We can assume that the head is the least armored part of a Cybertronian, and is therefore a better target -- especially considering that the head contains the processors, which are the Transformer equivalent of the brain.

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** An alternative to this is that Optimus is a nice guy -- - in general. It's just that, over the millennia of war, he's decided that the only way to stop the Decepticons is to take them out lest they destroy even more. It's possible that he tried to take prisoners before, and they escaped and caused even more damage. And the Fallen is an interdimensional being ([[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/The_Fallen according to the TFWiki entry]]), which means that the Fallen has tried to do this in multiple universes, which means that he's not likely to repent any time soon. Assuming Optimus knew this, he decided that he wouldn't give the Fallen a chance to try again and kill him. And his obsession with facial {{gorn}}? We can assume that the head is the least armored part of a Cybertronian, and is therefore a better target -- especially considering that the head contains the processors, which are the Transformer equivalent of the brain.



** Was it all in Dorothy's head or did the characters all just suspiciously look like family members of her?

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** Was it all in Dorothy's head or did the characters all just suspiciously look like family members of her?hers?



** It's never stated or suggested explicitly, but it's arguably hinted that [[spoiler:the events of the film are AllJustADream; this is one of those films that does perhaps invite this interpretation. After all, Gary is apparently receiving some kind of psychiatric treatment at the start, and the story involves countless people who've done better in life than him, despite being less cool than him in his mind, turning out to be evil robots, willing slaves to a soulless alien system -- despite which, they prove remarkably easy to beat in a fist fight. Certainly, the last few scenes, after the big explosion, could be interpreted as some kind of dying vision (much like the last few scenes in ''Film/HotFuzz'').]]

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** It's never stated or suggested explicitly, but it's arguably hinted that [[spoiler:the events of the film are AllJustADream; this is one of those films that does perhaps invite this interpretation. After all, Gary is apparently receiving some kind of psychiatric treatment at the start, and the story involves countless people who've done better in life than him, despite being less cool than him in his mind, turning out to be evil robots, willing slaves to a soulless alien system -- - despite which, they prove remarkably easy to beat in a fist fight. Certainly, the last few scenes, after the big explosion, could be interpreted as some kind of dying vision (much like the last few scenes in ''Film/HotFuzz'').]]



*** Bobby's little moment with Kitty--are his hormones craving physical intimacy that he's not able to have with his girlfriend? Or is he just doing something nice for a friend with no bad intentions or ulterior motives?
*** Rogue's attitude as well--does she have a legit reason to be suspicious? Or is she just paranoid and possessive?

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*** Bobby's little moment with Kitty--are Kitty - are his hormones craving physical intimacy that he's not able to have with his girlfriend? Or is he just doing something nice for a friend with no bad intentions or ulterior motives?
*** Rogue's attitude as well--does well - does she have a legit reason to be suspicious? Or is she just paranoid and possessive?



*** InUniverse. Xavier tries to raise Hank's spirits by talking about ''Literature/TheStrangeCaseOfDrJekyllAndMrHyde''. As Charles sees it, the serum didn't divide Jekyll into "good" and "evil," but more "civilized" and "animal," with the "animal" Hyde being Jekyll with confidence and free of inhibitions. Thus Hank shouldn't worry about being a bad guy, but should instead just embrace his newfound self-assurance and freedom. In the novel, Hyde revolts everyone who sees him (not because he's physically ugly--he isn't--but because people can sense something terribly ''wrong'' with him), and amongst other things, tramples a child and later beats an old man to death in a rage. Moreover, neither Jekyll nor Hyde display any remorse, and are only worried about being caught... yeah, stick to the hard sciences, Chuck.

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*** InUniverse. Xavier tries to raise Hank's spirits by talking about ''Literature/TheStrangeCaseOfDrJekyllAndMrHyde''. As Charles sees it, the serum didn't divide Jekyll into "good" and "evil," but more "civilized" and "animal," with the "animal" Hyde being Jekyll with confidence and free of inhibitions. Thus Hank shouldn't worry about being a bad guy, but should instead just embrace his newfound self-assurance and freedom. In the novel, Hyde revolts everyone who sees him (not because he's physically ugly--he isn't--but ugly - he isn't - but because people can sense something terribly ''wrong'' with him), and amongst other things, tramples a child and later beats an old man to death in a rage. Moreover, neither Jekyll nor Hyde display any remorse, and are only worried about being caught... yeah, stick to the hard sciences, Chuck.
12th Nov '16 3:58:52 PM nombretomado
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** In the Gene Wilder version, Willy Wonka comes off as a MadScientist who is genuinely unconcerned how dangerous his environment is. In the JohnnyDepp version, Willy Wonka is shown meticulously planning and organizing events, which make the various accidents come off as the machinations of a DiabolicalMastermind. The original novel can support either interpretation.

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** In the Gene Wilder version, Willy Wonka comes off as a MadScientist who is genuinely unconcerned how dangerous his environment is. In the JohnnyDepp Creator/JohnnyDepp version, Willy Wonka is shown meticulously planning and organizing events, which make the various accidents come off as the machinations of a DiabolicalMastermind. The original novel can support either interpretation.



** In the book, the Oompa Loompas are an explicit case of ValuesDissonance -- they're ''pygmies''. In the Gene Wilder version, Wonka sees them as completely dependent on his good will, so much so that he chooses his successor solely on how he believes that successor will treat them; this could make him the leader of a ''{{cult}}''. In the JohnnyDepp version, they're privacy-loving immigrants; given that Wonka's a CloudCuckooLander, it must be a laid-back job.

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** In the book, the Oompa Loompas are an explicit case of ValuesDissonance -- they're ''pygmies''. In the Gene Wilder version, Wonka sees them as completely dependent on his good will, so much so that he chooses his successor solely on how he believes that successor will treat them; this could make him the leader of a ''{{cult}}''. In the JohnnyDepp Creator/JohnnyDepp version, they're privacy-loving immigrants; given that Wonka's a CloudCuckooLander, it must be a laid-back job.
24th Oct '16 6:13:54 PM nombretomado
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* An interesting one during the production of ''Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry'': Saavik, a Vulcan character from the second through fourth movies, was supposed to feature heavily in the plot. But ''Franchise/StarTrek'' creator GeneRoddenberry insisted that Saavik [[spoiler:would never play a part in an assassination plot]], even though screenwriter/director Nicholas Meyer countered that ''he'' created the character in the first place. The role ended up going to a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute named Valeris.

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* An interesting one during the production of ''Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry'': Saavik, a Vulcan character from the second through fourth movies, was supposed to feature heavily in the plot. But ''Franchise/StarTrek'' creator GeneRoddenberry Creator/GeneRoddenberry insisted that Saavik [[spoiler:would never play a part in an assassination plot]], even though screenwriter/director Nicholas Meyer countered that ''he'' created the character in the first place. The role ended up going to a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute named Valeris.
14th Oct '16 10:53:13 AM Morgenthaler
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* Is ''Film/SkyHigh'''s Stitches just another Mook, or is the greatest henchman in any medium? [[spoiler: Royal Pain is de-aged into an infant, and out of pure loyalty, takes her in and raises her as his own daughter. And once she's old enough for her powers to manifest, he willing resumes his old position as her henchman.]]

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* Is ''Film/SkyHigh'''s ''Film/SkyHigh2005'''s Stitches just another Mook, or is the greatest henchman in any medium? [[spoiler: Royal Pain is de-aged into an infant, and out of pure loyalty, takes her in and raises her as his own daughter. And once she's old enough for her powers to manifest, he willing resumes his old position as her henchman.]]
4th Oct '16 2:24:59 AM GuyIncog
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* In the pre-title sequence of ''Film/ForYourEyesOnly'', the priest who tells Bond about the approaching helicopter is seen making the sign of the cross as 007 climbs aboard. This gesture has led to much speculation: was the priest simply wishing Bond a safe journey, or was he in fact a SPECTRE agent aware of what was about to happen, and therefore essentially giving Bond Last Rites with this gesture?
11th Sep '16 9:52:42 AM Premonition45
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** Which one's "Dumb" and which one's "Dumber"?

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** Which one's "Dumb" and which one's "Dumber"?"Dumber"? Is it Lloyd for having even ''less'' sense than Harry exhibits, or Harry for letting Lloyd fast-talk him so often?
7th Sep '16 7:58:47 PM Anddrix
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** Caleb: Although Caleb is the nicest of the four and seems to be a genuinely good person, how much of his wanting to help Ava was based out of genuine empathy and how much of it was [[spoiler: based on him desiring to enact his pornographic fantasies - Ava's face having been designed off of Caleb's preferences? What really does Caleb watch and how does it inform how he thinks of women? A case could be made for all his good intentions, he would be just as controlling and abusive to Ava as Nathan, and she left him behind because leaving with him would be trading one jailer for another]].

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** Caleb: Although Caleb is the nicest of the four and seems to be a genuinely good person, how much of his wanting to help Ava was based out of genuine empathy and how much of it was [[spoiler: based on him desiring to enact his pornographic fantasies - Ava's face having been designed off of Caleb's preferences? What really does Caleb really watch and how does it inform how he thinks of women? A case could be made that, for all his good intentions, he would be just as controlling and abusive to towards Ava as Nathan, Nathan was, and she left him behind because leaving with him would be trading one jailer for another]].
28th Aug '16 5:54:55 AM Morgenthaler
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* HAL 9000 from ''TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey''. WordOfGod said that he went kill-crazy because he was given conflicting orders about how to treat the crew members. There are two other theories for his motives: he was aware he was going to crash/go nuts and was trying to drop hints to Dave to figure out the secret purpose of the mission; or he, being a perfect computer, felt threatened by the monolith and wanted to keep mankind from acquiring it and reaching a point in evolution where they don't need tools like himself. Naturally, the film itself gives no hints at all.

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* HAL 9000 from ''TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey''.''Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey''. WordOfGod said that he went kill-crazy because he was given conflicting orders about how to treat the crew members. There are two other theories for his motives: he was aware he was going to crash/go nuts and was trying to drop hints to Dave to figure out the secret purpose of the mission; or he, being a perfect computer, felt threatened by the monolith and wanted to keep mankind from acquiring it and reaching a point in evolution where they don't need tools like himself. Naturally, the film itself gives no hints at all.
5th Jun '16 3:54:48 PM nombretomado
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* Depending on which fanfic you read, Dr. Frank N Furter from ''RockyHorrorPictureShow'' is either A.) an abusive, psychotic, heartless jerk who only manipulates and hurts (both physically and emotionally) other people for his own personal amusement, or B.) [[DracoInLeatherPants a misunderstood person who only acts the way he does due to some mysterious past tragedy.]]

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* Depending on which fanfic you read, Dr. Frank N Furter from ''RockyHorrorPictureShow'' ''Film/TheRockyHorrorPictureShow'' is either A.) an abusive, psychotic, heartless jerk who only manipulates and hurts (both physically and emotionally) other people for his own personal amusement, or B.) [[DracoInLeatherPants a misunderstood person who only acts the way he does due to some mysterious past tragedy.]]
27th Apr '16 1:41:38 AM erforce
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* The radiation-scarred pursuers from ''Film/ChernobylDiaries'' seem like your standard schlock-horror CannibalClan ''TheHillsHaveEyes'' Expys ... except that they're never actually seen killing ''any'' of the tour group on-screen. They grapple with Michael (who was shooting at them) and one is captured on video carrying off Natalie, but the former's death is not shown and the latter is actually found again later, physically unharmed. Because the Exclusion-Zone guards had apparently been hunting them down with automatic weapons, it's possible that these "mutants" were merely defending themselves by mobbing the intruders, particularly as their vision must've been damaged by radiation (so they couldn't see that the group weren't in uniform) and they couldn't understand the tourists' English (which, if they'd been held in isolation since the disaster, would've sounded like the language of a UsefulNotes/ColdWar enemy). As for the implied cannibalism, Yuri could've been killed and half-eaten by feral dogs, which also injured Chris; and Natalie was hauled away by the "mutants" in order to ''save'' her from the bear when it returned to flip over the van, having smelled out Chris's blood.

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* The radiation-scarred pursuers from ''Film/ChernobylDiaries'' seem like your standard schlock-horror CannibalClan ''TheHillsHaveEyes'' ''[[Film/TheHillsHaveEyes2006 The Hills Have Eyes]]'' Expys ... except that they're never actually seen killing ''any'' of the tour group on-screen. They grapple with Michael (who was shooting at them) and one is captured on video carrying off Natalie, but the former's death is not shown and the latter is actually found again later, physically unharmed. Because the Exclusion-Zone guards had apparently been hunting them down with automatic weapons, it's possible that these "mutants" were merely defending themselves by mobbing the intruders, particularly as their vision must've been damaged by radiation (so they couldn't see that the group weren't in uniform) and they couldn't understand the tourists' English (which, if they'd been held in isolation since the disaster, would've sounded like the language of a UsefulNotes/ColdWar enemy). As for the implied cannibalism, Yuri could've been killed and half-eaten by feral dogs, which also injured Chris; and Natalie was hauled away by the "mutants" in order to ''save'' her from the bear when it returned to flip over the van, having smelled out Chris's blood.
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