History AlternateCharacterInterpretation / DeathNote

21st Apr '16 7:15:38 PM AdelePotter
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** Furthermore, in the finale, he's under emotional distress, but his hand is still steady enough to ''shoot a pen out of Kira's hand.'' CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass, anyone?

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** Furthermore, in the finale, he's under emotional distress, but his hand is still steady enough to ''shoot a pen out of Kira's hand.'' CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass, anyone?anyone?
* Did Ryuk ever actually give a damn about Light, and if so, to what degree? While he clearly doesn't care for him the same way Rem cares for Misa, some of his actions and dialogue could be read as him actually caring about Light beyond a source of entertainment. Was his VillainousFriendship with Light a true friendship, or just a hollow imitation of one to pass the time?
* Was Ryuk being honest when he said he didn't choose Light to get his Death Note? We can (probably) be certain he means it when he says he doesn't care who wins in the L vs. Light conflict, but is it ''really'' an accident that a brilliant, disillusioned, probably-kind-of-messed-up-already, utterly bored young man just so ''happened'' to be the one to pick up the notebook? And that it just so ''happened'' to fall outside of his English class, and that the instructions are written in English? (Ryuk says this is because the most popular language is English, but it's not -- it's the ''second'' most popular. This could be a research failure, but it'd be perfectly in character for Ryuk to be lying.) In a Japan-only bonus chapter, Ryuk ''does'' advise a shinigami to "choose carefully" when deciding who to give a notebook to...
26th Dec '15 9:33:42 PM bt8257
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* Near and Mello both get it, also. Does Near dislike L? Does he hate Mello, does he secretly feel friendship for him? Is Mello Catholic, or is there [[CreepyCoolCrosses some other reason]] he'd wear a rosary? Is Mello an AntiHero or an anti-villain? Is Mello a super-temperamental guy, or is it just that Near pushes his BerserkButton? A fanfic claimed that Mello was faking his insanity to throw Near off. And then there's Matt, who didn't even have that much of a personality, so that subject is pretty open. About the only things consistent are the fact that he's a techie who likes games and he's pretty lazy. Then you get into Misa, Ryuuk, Mikami, even Takada.... Death Note has massive amounts of this sort of thing.

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* Near and Mello both get it, also. Does Near dislike L? Does he hate Mello, does he secretly feel friendship for him? Is Mello Catholic, or is there [[CreepyCoolCrosses some other reason]] he'd wear a rosary? Is Mello an AntiHero or an anti-villain? AntiVillain? Is Mello a super-temperamental guy, or is it just that Near pushes his BerserkButton? A fanfic claimed that Mello was faking his insanity to throw Near off. And then there's Matt, who didn't even have that much of a personality, so that subject is pretty open. About the only things consistent are the fact that he's a techie who likes games and he's pretty lazy. Then you get into Misa, Ryuuk, Mikami, even Takada.... Death Note has massive amounts of this sort of thing.
8th Dec '15 12:55:51 PM Berrenta
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* Also, anyone in the main story. Is Light a psychopathic depraved lunatic with delusions of godhood who kills people indiscriminately for a reason which has been inherently deconstructed? Or is he just a nice guy trying to do the right thing who just got corrupted by the power he wielded and his fear of being found out? Or is he genuinely deserving of becoming God of the new world and the ultimate arbiter of justice? Similarly, with L: is he a brilliant chessmaster with a desire to stop a mass-murderer, a talent for reading human nature like an open book, and a genius that surpasses Light (considering he didn't have a Shinigami and all...)? Or is he just a paranoid neurotic who manipulates and schemes to destroy the heroic Light and ruin the utopia that he is trying to create, and is in fact could be compared to the anti-christ in human form? [[InternetBacklash Apparently either interpretation will get you ripped apart by ''someone'' on the right forum...]]ThisVeryWiki generally considers Light a villain and L an AntiHero, though exactly how evil or good either of them are is very much open to debate.

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* Also, anyone in the main story. Is Light a psychopathic depraved lunatic with delusions of godhood who kills people indiscriminately for a reason which has been inherently deconstructed? Or is he just a nice guy trying to do the right thing who just got corrupted by the power he wielded and his fear of being found out? Or is he genuinely deserving of becoming God of the new world and the ultimate arbiter of justice? Similarly, with L: is he a brilliant chessmaster with a desire to stop a mass-murderer, a talent for reading human nature like an open book, and a genius that surpasses Light (considering he didn't have a Shinigami and all...)? Or is he just a paranoid neurotic who manipulates and schemes to destroy the heroic Light and ruin the utopia that he is trying to create, and is in fact could be compared to the anti-christ in human form? [[InternetBacklash [[BrokenBase Apparently either interpretation will get you ripped apart by ''someone'' on the right forum...]]ThisVeryWiki generally considers Light a villain and L an AntiHero, though exactly how evil or good either of them are is very much open to debate.
22nd Jul '15 11:29:17 PM lbybrown
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* One common Alternative Character Interpretion for any Death Note user is whether or not it's the power over life and death bringing out their darker side, or if just ''using'' a Death Note will drive a human absolutely batshit insane. There is a ''marked'' difference in Misa, Light, and Mikami's mental stability and personality depending on whether or not they have a Death Note at the moment. As such, Misa can be argued to fit the first interpretation when she's in her right mind, and the second when she's in her "2nd Kira" persona.
* The shinigami's are questionable in some cases, specifically Rem: is Rem a good shinigami looking out for a human she/he fell in love with, or is she/he still a monster that survives by killing? Also, are any shinigami's evil, in that they were made to kill people therefore are only fullfilling their nature?

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* One common Alternative Character Interpretion for any Death Note user is whether or not it's the power over life and death bringing out their darker side, or if just ''using'' a Death Note will drive a human absolutely batshit insane. There is a ''marked'' difference in Misa, Light, and Mikami's mental stability and personality depending on whether or not they have a Death Note at the moment. As such, Misa can be argued to fit the first interpretation when she's in her right mind, and the second when she's in her "2nd "second Kira" persona.
* Mello at the end of the Successor arc. [[spoiler:Was his kidnapping plan a last-ditch attempt to one-up Near once he found himself trapped, or did he make a conscious decision to trigger exactly what Near had predicted: Mikami coming out of hiding with the real notebook?]]
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The shinigami's shinigamis are questionable in some cases, specifically Rem: is Is Rem a good shinigami looking out for a human she/he she fell in love with, or is she/he she still a monster that survives by killing? Also, are any shinigami's shinigamis evil, in that they were made to kill people therefore are only fullfilling fulfilling their nature?
22nd Jul '15 10:59:03 PM lbybrown
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* Near and Mello both get it, also. Does Near dislike L? Does he hate Mello, does he secretly feel friendship for him, is there massive amounts of HoYay involved? Is Mello Catholic, or is there [[CreepyCoolCrosses some other reason]] he'd wear a rosary? Is Mello an AntiHero or an anti-villain? Is Mello a super-temperamental guy, or is it just that Near pushes his BerserkButton? A fanfic claimed that Mello was faking his insanity to throw Near off. And then there's Matt, who didn't even have that much of a personality, so that subject is pretty open. About the only things consistent are the fact that he's a techie who likes games and he's pretty lazy. Then you get into Misa, Ryuuk, Mikami, even Takada.... Death Note has massive amounts of this sort of thing.

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* Near and Mello both get it, also. Does Near dislike L? Does he hate Mello, does he secretly feel friendship for him, is there massive amounts of HoYay involved? him? Is Mello Catholic, or is there [[CreepyCoolCrosses some other reason]] he'd wear a rosary? Is Mello an AntiHero or an anti-villain? Is Mello a super-temperamental guy, or is it just that Near pushes his BerserkButton? A fanfic claimed that Mello was faking his insanity to throw Near off. And then there's Matt, who didn't even have that much of a personality, so that subject is pretty open. About the only things consistent are the fact that he's a techie who likes games and he's pretty lazy. Then you get into Misa, Ryuuk, Mikami, even Takada.... Death Note has massive amounts of this sort of thing.



* One common Alternative Character Interpreation for any Death Note user is whether or not it's the power over life and death bringing out their darker side, or if just ''using'' a Death Note will drive a human absolutely batshit insane. There is a ''marked'' difference in Misa, Light, and Mikami's mental stability and personality depending on whether or not they have a Death Note at the moment. As such, Misa can be argued to fit the first interpretation when she's in her right mind, and the second when she's in her "2nd Kira" persona.

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* One common Alternative Character Interpreation Interpretion for any Death Note user is whether or not it's the power over life and death bringing out their darker side, or if just ''using'' a Death Note will drive a human absolutely batshit insane. There is a ''marked'' difference in Misa, Light, and Mikami's mental stability and personality depending on whether or not they have a Death Note at the moment. As such, Misa can be argued to fit the first interpretation when she's in her right mind, and the second when she's in her "2nd Kira" persona.
20th Jun '15 10:55:55 AM eliaskelham
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* There's also the endless debate over whether or not [[spoiler: Matsuda's speculation that Near used the Death Note to restrict Mikami's actions is true, though this theory works less for the anime than it does the manga; in the anime, Mikami commits suicide during the final confrontation, while in the manga, he inexplicably dies some time afterwards, which Matsuda considers possible proof that he was written into the Death Note. WordOfGod also mentions that Near "cheats."]]

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* There's also the endless debate over whether or not [[spoiler: Matsuda's speculation that Near used the Death Note to restrict Mikami's actions is true, though this theory works less for the anime (which never mentions this theory either) than it does the manga; in the anime, Mikami commits suicide during the final confrontation, while in the manga, he inexplicably dies some time afterwards, which Matsuda considers possible proof that he was written into the Death Note. WordOfGod also mentions that Near "cheats."]]



* Taro Kagami from the pilot chapter. [[spoiler:Throughout the story, he comes across as a genuinely good kid who simply got thrown into horrifying circumstances way beyond his control. The pilot's ending, however, is very open-ended. We know Taro kept the Death Note. It's unclear whether he simply kept it or if he did a FaceHeelTurn and started using it again. Unlike Light, whom WordOfGod specifically identifies as "evil," Taro is someone whose moral alignment is genuinely open to interpretation.]]
* Also, anyone in the main story. Is Light a psychopathic depraved lunatic with delusions of godhood who kills people indiscriminately for a reason which has been inherently deconstructed? Or is he just a nice guy trying to do the right thing who just got corrupted by the power he wielded and his fear of being found out? Or is he genuinely deserving of becoming God of the new world and the ultimate arbiter of justice? Similarly, with L: is he a brilliant chessmaster with a desire to stop a mass-murderer, a talent for reading human nature like an open book, and a genius that surpasses Light (considering he didn't have a Shinigami and all...)? Or is he just a paranoid neurotic who manipulates and schemes to destroy the heroic Light and ruin the utopia that he is trying to create, and is in fact could be compared to the anti-christ in human form? [[InternetBacklash Apparently either interpretation will get you ripped apart by ''someone'' on the right forum...ThisVeryWiki generally considers Light a villain and L an AntiHero, though exactly how evil or good either of them are is very much open to debate]]

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* Taro Kagami from the pilot chapter. [[spoiler:Throughout the story, he comes across as a genuinely good kid who simply got thrown into horrifying circumstances way beyond his control. The pilot's ending, however, is very open-ended. We know Taro kept the Death Note. It's unclear whether he simply kept it or if he did a FaceHeelTurn and started using it again. Unlike Light, whom WordOfGod and some of the manga's narration specifically identifies identify as "evil," Taro is someone whose moral alignment is genuinely open to interpretation.a little more ambigous.]]
* Also, anyone in the main story. Is Light a psychopathic depraved lunatic with delusions of godhood who kills people indiscriminately for a reason which has been inherently deconstructed? Or is he just a nice guy trying to do the right thing who just got corrupted by the power he wielded and his fear of being found out? Or is he genuinely deserving of becoming God of the new world and the ultimate arbiter of justice? Similarly, with L: is he a brilliant chessmaster with a desire to stop a mass-murderer, a talent for reading human nature like an open book, and a genius that surpasses Light (considering he didn't have a Shinigami and all...)? Or is he just a paranoid neurotic who manipulates and schemes to destroy the heroic Light and ruin the utopia that he is trying to create, and is in fact could be compared to the anti-christ in human form? [[InternetBacklash Apparently either interpretation will get you ripped apart by ''someone'' on the right forum...ThisVeryWiki ]]ThisVeryWiki generally considers Light a villain and L an AntiHero, though exactly how evil or good either of them are is very much open to debate]]debate.
20th Jun '15 10:49:16 AM eliaskelham
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* Also, anyone in the main story. Is Light a psychopathic depraved lunatic with delusions of godhood who kills people indiscriminately for a reason which has been inherently deconstructed? Or is he just a nice guy trying to do the right thing who just got corrupted by the power he wielded and his fear of being found out. Or is he genuinely deserving of becoming God of the new world and becoming the ultimate arbiter of justice? Similarly, with L: is he a brilliant chessmaster with a desire to stop a mass-murderer, a talent for reading human nature like an open book, and a genius that surpasses Light (considering he didn't have a Shinigami and all...)? Or is he just a paranoid neurotic who manipulates and schemes to destroy the heroic Light and ruin the utopia that he is trying to create, and is in fact could be compared to the anti-christ in human form? [[InternetBacklash Apparently either interpretation will get you ripped apart by ''someone'' on the right forum...ThisVeryWiki generally considers Light a villain and L an AntiHero, though how evil or good either of them are is very much open to debate]]

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* Also, anyone in the main story. Is Light a psychopathic depraved lunatic with delusions of godhood who kills people indiscriminately for a reason which has been inherently deconstructed? Or is he just a nice guy trying to do the right thing who just got corrupted by the power he wielded and his fear of being found out. out? Or is he genuinely deserving of becoming God of the new world and becoming the ultimate arbiter of justice? Similarly, with L: is he a brilliant chessmaster with a desire to stop a mass-murderer, a talent for reading human nature like an open book, and a genius that surpasses Light (considering he didn't have a Shinigami and all...)? Or is he just a paranoid neurotic who manipulates and schemes to destroy the heroic Light and ruin the utopia that he is trying to create, and is in fact could be compared to the anti-christ in human form? [[InternetBacklash Apparently either interpretation will get you ripped apart by ''someone'' on the right forum...ThisVeryWiki generally considers Light a villain and L an AntiHero, though exactly how evil or good either of them are is very much open to debate]]
20th Jun '15 10:47:38 AM eliaskelham
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* Also, anyone in the main story. Is Light a psychopathic depraved lunatic with delusions of godhood who kills people indiscriminately for a reason which has been inherently deconstructed? Or is he just a nice guy trying to do the right thing and is in fact the second coming of Christ? Similarly, with L: is he a brilliant chessmaster with a desire to stop a mass-murderer, a talent for reading human nature like an open book, and a genius that surpasses Light (considering he didn't have a Shinigami and all...)? Or is he just a paranoid neurotic who manipulates and schemes to destroy the heroic Light and ruin the utopia that he is trying to create, and is in fact the anti-christ in human form? [[InternetBacklash Apparently either interpretation will get you ripped apart by ''someone'' on the right forum...]]

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* Also, anyone in the main story. Is Light a psychopathic depraved lunatic with delusions of godhood who kills people indiscriminately for a reason which has been inherently deconstructed? Or is he just a nice guy trying to do the right thing who just got corrupted by the power he wielded and his fear of being found out. Or is in fact he genuinely deserving of becoming God of the second coming new world and becoming the ultimate arbiter of Christ? justice? Similarly, with L: is he a brilliant chessmaster with a desire to stop a mass-murderer, a talent for reading human nature like an open book, and a genius that surpasses Light (considering he didn't have a Shinigami and all...)? Or is he just a paranoid neurotic who manipulates and schemes to destroy the heroic Light and ruin the utopia that he is trying to create, and is in fact could be compared to the anti-christ in human form? [[InternetBacklash Apparently either interpretation will get you ripped apart by ''someone'' on the right forum...]]ThisVeryWiki generally considers Light a villain and L an AntiHero, though how evil or good either of them are is very much open to debate]]
8th Oct '14 10:12:39 AM SomeGamerKid
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* From the live action movies there's Light's girlfriend Shiori Akino. Is she a) [[TheIngenue genuinely clueless]] or b) she knows / suspects Light is Kira and [[SelectiveObliviousness is in denial]] or c) she knows / suspects Light is Kira and is [[CoolDownHug trying to talk him out of it.]]

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* From the live action movies there's Light's girlfriend Shiori Akino. Is she a) [[TheIngenue genuinely clueless]] or b) she knows / suspects Light is Kira and [[SelectiveObliviousness is in denial]] or c) she knows / suspects Light is Kira and is [[CoolDownHug trying to talk him out of it.]]]]
* I'm surprised Matsuda hasn't been mentioned yet. He's definitely a much better agent than he seems. For one, he's able, ''under pressure,'' to XanatosSpeedChess his way out of a dangerous situation with the Yotsuba group, using an alias he was barely familiar with, all within seconds. Then, he's able to act convincingly drunk, do a ''handstand'' on a balcony ''several stories up,'' and ''drop onto a mattress a floor down,'' all without showing fear or breaking character.
** Furthermore, in the finale, he's under emotional distress, but his hand is still steady enough to ''shoot a pen out of Kira's hand.'' CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass, anyone?
3rd Aug '14 12:39:49 AM Espun
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** In the manga's last chapter, Near can be seen playing with his models, but also eating a bar of chocolate, which could count as him respecting Mello's memory. Similarly, the fact that he begins to call himself "L", but with a different font, implying that he did not, or rather can not replace him.
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