History Administrivia / HowToWriteAnExample

18th Sep '16 8:45:03 AM MazeMaker
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* '''Don't Speculate, Don't Prognosticate:''' You may have a good reason for assuming the trope will be used in a show eventually, but if you haven't '''seen''' the trope in the work, [[ShapedLikeItself you haven't seen the trope used in the work]], whether it's because the creators haven't put it in yet, because [[AvertedTrope they're not going to put it in]], or because you haven't actually seen the work in question. If and when you actually see the trope used add it -- but not before. By the same token, don't say "used in pretty much every [genre] work," particularly if you haven't seen literally all of them and can confirm that it's in them.

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* '''Don't Speculate, Don't Prognosticate:''' You may have a good reason for assuming the trope will be used in a show eventually, but if you haven't '''seen''' the trope in the work, [[ShapedLikeItself you haven't seen the trope used in the work]], whether it's because the creators haven't put it in yet, because [[AvertedTrope they're not going to put it in]], or because you haven't actually seen the work in question. If and when you actually see the trope used used, add it -- but not before. By the same token, don't say "used in pretty much every [genre] work," particularly if you haven't seen literally all of them and can confirm that it's in them.
24th May '16 5:47:23 PM war877
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* '''Keep it Brief:''' Administrivia/BrevityIsWit. No one wants to read WallsOfText. Over-long examples can encourage other tropers to carry on too long and can quickly turn a trope from a fun read to a long slog. Examples should have enough substance so that readers can get a relatively clear picture of how a given work used the trope in question, ''and no more.'' Don't bog the example down with unnecessary detail or canned analysis. Sometimes saying ItMakesSenseInContext is enough information. As a general rule, if you ever find yourself feeling the need to indent and start a new paragraph, chances are you've gone on too long. A quick way to shorten your example is to scan it and excise any WordCruft.

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* '''Keep it Brief:''' Administrivia/BrevityIsWit. No one wants to read WallsOfText. Over-long Overlong examples can encourage other tropers to carry on too long and can quickly turn a trope from a fun read to a long slog. Examples should have enough substance so that readers can get a relatively clear picture of how a given work used the trope in question, ''and no more.'' Don't bog the example down with unnecessary detail or canned analysis. Sometimes saying ItMakesSenseInContext is enough information. As a general rule, if you ever find yourself feeling the need to indent and start a new paragraph, chances are you've gone on too long. A quick way to shorten your example is to scan it and excise any WordCruft.



* '''Don't Use Bad Markup:''' In particular, never, ''ever'' put [=[[redirect:]]=] markup within an example, as it will obliterate the trope entry. With practice, the markup language will become familiar. Check your entry after you edited it to make sure it worked out properly. You might be going for '''''BOLD and Italics''''' and end up just getting '''''Italics''. Double check trope links to make sure it isn't RedLinked. Try to avoid spending [[SerialTweaker three editing sessions]] fixing your mistakes; use the Preview function to double-check your work before committing it.

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* '''Don't Use Bad Markup:''' In particular, never, ''ever'' put [=[[redirect:]]=] [=[[redi=][=rect:]]=] markup within an example, as it will obliterate the trope entry. With practice, the markup language will become familiar. Check your entry after you edited it to make sure it worked out properly. You might be going for '''''BOLD and Italics''''' and end up just getting '''''Italics''. Double check trope links to make sure it isn't RedLinked. Try to avoid spending [[SerialTweaker three editing sessions]] fixing your mistakes; use the Preview function to double-check your work before committing it.
28th Apr '16 3:07:13 PM HighCrate
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* [[#KeepItAnExample]]'''Keep It An Example:''' Making a blanket statement on the behavior of '70s LiveActionTV may be interesting information, but it technically doesn't add anything new as an example. If you feel the information is important, then add it to the description (or the {{Analysis}} subpage) instead of the examples. Examples are about specific works and instances in them; the description is the general behavior of the trope. See Administrivia/NeedsABetterDescription.

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* [[#KeepItAnExample]]'''Keep It An Example:''' [[#ExamplesAreNotGeneral]]'''Examples Are Not General:''' Making a blanket statement on the behavior of '70s LiveActionTV may be interesting information, but it technically doesn't add anything new as an example. If you feel the information is important, then add it to the description (or the {{Analysis}} subpage) instead of the examples. Examples are about specific works and instances in them; the description is the general behavior of the trope. See Administrivia/NeedsABetterDescription.
7th Mar '16 5:49:24 PM nombretomado
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* '''Remember That This Is A Wiki:''' Therefore, you cannot rely on certain elements remaining on the page. Page quotes and images may be swapped out as tastes change and new works come out, so don't have an example specifically refer to information therein. Also, be very careful about starting an example with "Similarly," or "Like in the CareBears example above," if it isn't part of the same group. That example may get deleted, even if it seems like it wouldn't. This goes double on pages that aren't categorized by media yet; if the trope grows popular enough, media categories will be added, and suddenly the "above" example you were comparing it to is now three-quarters of the way down the page. Along a similar line, don't be surprised if someone slices and dices your example because half of it was Administrivia/{{Natter}}.

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* '''Remember That This Is A Wiki:''' Therefore, you cannot rely on certain elements remaining on the page. Page quotes and images may be swapped out as tastes change and new works come out, so don't have an example specifically refer to information therein. Also, be very careful about starting an example with "Similarly," or "Like in the CareBears Franchise/CareBears example above," if it isn't part of the same group. That example may get deleted, even if it seems like it wouldn't. This goes double on pages that aren't categorized by media yet; if the trope grows popular enough, media categories will be added, and suddenly the "above" example you were comparing it to is now three-quarters of the way down the page. Along a similar line, don't be surprised if someone slices and dices your example because half of it was Administrivia/{{Natter}}.
23rd Feb '16 3:54:03 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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* '''Don't Rock the Boat:''' Remember the RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement. {{Edit War}}s are no fun for anyone (except {{Wiki Vandal}}s, obviously), so keep that rant about geopolitics to yourself, or Administrivia/TakeItToTheForums. Putting it where it doesn't belong accomplishes nothing besides raising tempers. If you decide to delete something that somebody else wrote, politely drop it into the discussion page with a justification -- nothing but the most blatant [[WikiVandal vandalism]] deserves a [[DriveByUpdater Drive By edit]].

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* '''Don't Rock the Boat:''' Remember the RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement. {{Edit Administrivia/{{Edit War}}s are no fun for anyone (except {{Wiki Vandal}}s, obviously), so keep that rant about geopolitics to yourself, or Administrivia/TakeItToTheForums. Putting it where it doesn't belong accomplishes nothing besides raising tempers. If you decide to delete something that somebody else wrote, politely drop it into the discussion page with a justification -- nothing but the most blatant [[WikiVandal vandalism]] deserves a [[DriveByUpdater Drive By edit]].
15th Jan '16 10:31:04 AM Anddrix
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* '''...[[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample But Not Too Brief]]:''' Remember, examples sections are more than just long lists of shows or tropes -- they are here to ''serve as examples''. If you don't explain how a show used a given trope, what have you really said? Remember, nothing is SelfExplanatory unless it is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin (even then, err on the side of [[ViewersAreMorons readers are morons]] and explain it anyway). Unless it provides context, an example is just a series name floating in space, probably not worth much to anyone who doesn't already remember it (and what's the point of telling people something they already know?). Oh, and most of us are pretty sick of TwoWordsAddedEmphasis {{SinkHole}}s, so please don't do that either. It's easy to [[FanMyopia assume that everyone else is familiar]] with the same things you're familiar with, but this is usually not the case, so think before you break out the internal jargon and {{Fan Nickname}}s without explanation. There are still some people who don't know ItWasHisSled.

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* '''...[[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample But Not Too Brief]]:''' Remember, examples sections are more than just long lists of shows or tropes -- they are here to ''serve as examples''. If you don't explain how a show used a given trope, what have you really said? Remember, nothing is SelfExplanatory unless it is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin (even then, err on the side of [[ViewersAreMorons readers are morons]] morons and explain it anyway). Unless it provides context, an example is just a series name floating in space, probably not worth much to anyone who doesn't already remember it (and what's the point of telling people something they already know?). Oh, and most of us are pretty sick of TwoWordsAddedEmphasis {{SinkHole}}s, so please don't do that either. It's easy to [[FanMyopia assume that everyone else is familiar]] with the same things you're familiar with, but this is usually not the case, so think before you break out the internal jargon and {{Fan Nickname}}s without explanation. There are still some people who don't know ItWasHisSled.
11th Jan '16 10:22:33 AM crazysamaritan
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* '''...[[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample But Not Too Brief]]:''' Remember, examples sections are more than just long lists of shows or tropes -- they are here to ''serve as examples''. If you don't explain how a show used a given trope, what have you really said? Remember, nothing is SelfExplanatory unless it is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin (even then, err on the side of [[ViewersAreMorons readers are morons]] and explain it anyway). Unless it provides context, an example is just a series name floating in space, probably not worth much to anyone who doesn't already remember it (and what's the point of telling people something they already know?). Oh, and most of us are pretty sick of TwoWordsAddedEmphasis, so please don't do that either. It's easy to [[FanMyopia assume that everyone else is familiar]] with the same things you're familiar with, but this is usually not the case, so think before you break out the internal jargon and {{Fan Nickname}}s without explanation. There are still some people who don't know ItWasHisSled.

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* '''...[[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample But Not Too Brief]]:''' Remember, examples sections are more than just long lists of shows or tropes -- they are here to ''serve as examples''. If you don't explain how a show used a given trope, what have you really said? Remember, nothing is SelfExplanatory unless it is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin (even then, err on the side of [[ViewersAreMorons readers are morons]] and explain it anyway). Unless it provides context, an example is just a series name floating in space, probably not worth much to anyone who doesn't already remember it (and what's the point of telling people something they already know?). Oh, and most of us are pretty sick of TwoWordsAddedEmphasis, TwoWordsAddedEmphasis {{SinkHole}}s, so please don't do that either. It's easy to [[FanMyopia assume that everyone else is familiar]] with the same things you're familiar with, but this is usually not the case, so think before you break out the internal jargon and {{Fan Nickname}}s without explanation. There are still some people who don't know ItWasHisSled.
17th Dec '15 1:05:42 PM hamza678
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* '''This is not a Wiki of [[MemeticMutation Memes]]:''' We know [[Film/{{Transformers}} Bonecrusher hates everything]], ChuckNorris is a [[MemeticBadass god in mortal form]], and [[Film/IronMan Tony Stark built a suit of armor]] in a cave with a box of [[Series/{{Seinfeld}} yadda yadda]], but these cute gags rarely stay popular longer than 6 months. Unless you are listing an example of a MemeticMutation from a work, there is no real reason to list it among tropes that have nothing to do with the meme in the first place.

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* '''This is not a Wiki of [[MemeticMutation Memes]]:''' We know [[Film/{{Transformers}} Bonecrusher hates everything]], ChuckNorris Creator/ChuckNorris is a [[MemeticBadass god in mortal form]], and [[Film/IronMan Tony Stark built a suit of armor]] in a cave with a box of [[Series/{{Seinfeld}} yadda yadda]], but these cute gags rarely stay popular longer than 6 months. Unless you are listing an example of a MemeticMutation from a work, there is no real reason to list it among tropes that have nothing to do with the meme in the first place.
8th Dec '15 8:22:38 AM Arivne
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** [[#EmphasisForWorkNames]] '''Emphasis For Work Names:''' Most works are considered "Long Works", and their names should be bracketed by two apostrophes ([=''=]), which render the work in italic font. Short works like individual songs, TV show episodes, short stories and poems, essays or chapters use "quotes". There is no emphasis used when referring to personas, sacred texts, and works by a name other than their franchise name. When in doubt, it is better to use italics, and have it fixed later. Italics help to differentiate the work name from other blue links.

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** [[#EmphasisForWorkNames]] '''Emphasis For Work Names:''' Most works are considered "Long Works", and their names should be bracketed by two apostrophes ([=''=]), which render the work in italic font. Short works like individual songs, TV show episodes, short stories and stories, short poems, essays or chapters use "quotes". There is no emphasis used when referring to personas, sacred texts, and works by a name other than their franchise name. When in doubt, it is better to use italics, and have it fixed later. Italics help to differentiate the work name from other blue links.
8th Dec '15 8:20:28 AM Arivne
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** [[#EmphasisForWorkNames]] '''Emphasis For Work Names:''' Most works are considered "Long Works", and their names should be bracketed by two apostrophes ([=''=]), which render the work in italic font. Short works like individual songs, TV show episodes, essays or chapters use "quotes". There is no emphasis used when referring to personas, sacred texts, and works by a name other than their franchise name. When in doubt, it is better to use italics, and have it fixed later. Italics help to differentiate the work name from other blue links.

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** [[#EmphasisForWorkNames]] '''Emphasis For Work Names:''' Most works are considered "Long Works", and their names should be bracketed by two apostrophes ([=''=]), which render the work in italic font. Short works like individual songs, TV show episodes, short stories and poems, essays or chapters use "quotes". There is no emphasis used when referring to personas, sacred texts, and works by a name other than their franchise name. When in doubt, it is better to use italics, and have it fixed later. Italics help to differentiate the work name from other blue links.
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