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22nd Mar '15 8:18:05 PM N1KF
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3rd Dec '14 8:59:13 AM crazysamaritan
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Often when a trope gets brought up in the TropeRepairShop for being repaired or renamed, the issue of its use around the wiki will come up. Maybe someone will claim that the title is [[IThoughtItMeant confusing editors into thinking the trope is something else]], or someone will suggest that the title is lacking in the catchiness department and its proliferation is suffering as a result. To support or oppose such a point, you may want to look into how much, how correctly, and generally ''how'' a trope is being used around the wiki. In other words, have a look at how its wicks are behaving. In other other words, do a wick check.

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Often when a trope gets brought up in the TropeRepairShop Administrivia/TropeRepairShop for being repaired or renamed, the issue of its use around the wiki will come up. Maybe someone will claim that the title is [[IThoughtItMeant confusing editors into thinking the trope is something else]], or someone will suggest that the title is lacking in the catchiness department and its proliferation is suffering as a result. To support or oppose such a point, you may want to look into how much, how correctly, and generally ''how'' a trope is being used around the wiki. In other words, have a look at how its wicks are behaving. In other other words, do a wick check.



Post to the existing thread in the TropeRepairShop, or start a new one if there isn't one. Say you did a wick check. Explain what you were trying to check. For each article where you found a wick, '''copy and paste''' the line/sentence it appeared in (this allows other users to double-check your results) and state (preferably in '''bold''') which side of the case it weighs on. Conclude your findings with the relevant statistics.

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Post to the existing thread in the TropeRepairShop, Administrivia/TropeRepairShop, or start a new one if there isn't one. Say you did a wick check. Explain what you were trying to check. For each article where you found a wick, '''copy and paste''' the line/sentence it appeared in (this allows other users to double-check your results) and state (preferably in '''bold''') which side of the case it weighs on. Conclude your findings with the relevant statistics.
13th Mar '14 9:53:48 AM SeptimusHeap
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* Is the trope relevant in that particular context or [[SinkHole did someone apparently throw it in just because they could]]?

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* Is the trope relevant in that particular context or [[SinkHole [[Administrivia/SinkHole did someone apparently throw it in just because they could]]?
6th Nov '13 5:39:53 PM GhostOfAGeek
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26th Oct '13 8:36:21 AM SeptimusHeap
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* Is the trope being used for either [[GushingAboutShowsYouLike Gushing]] or [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike complaining]] about the work?

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* Is the trope being used for either [[GushingAboutShowsYouLike Gushing]] or [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike complaining]] about the work?



If there are significant results in any of those areas, you may be able to use them to illustrate a point you are making. For example, if you claim a trope's name is insular, your case becomes stronger if most of the wicks in the sample have to do with comic books (unless, of course, it is a comic-book-exclusive trope by definition). If you claim that the trope is neutral and does not induce ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike, your case becomes stronger if you can show that most wicks are from pages matter-of-factly pointing out that the trope applies without judging the work it applies to.

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If there are significant results in any of those areas, you may be able to use them to illustrate a point you are making. For example, if you claim a trope's name is insular, your case becomes stronger if most of the wicks in the sample have to do with comic books (unless, of course, it is a comic-book-exclusive trope by definition). If you claim that the trope is neutral and does not induce ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike, Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike, your case becomes stronger if you can show that most wicks are from pages matter-of-factly pointing out that the trope applies without judging the work it applies to.
28th Jan '13 12:04:31 PM Madrugada
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# The number of wicks should be either the square root of the total number of wicks or 50, whichever is larger.

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# The number of wicks you check should be either the square root of the total number of wicks or 50, whichever is larger.larger. If there are fewer than 50 wicks, check them all.
10th Dec '12 7:52:30 AM SeptimusHeap
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* Is there a clear, correct explanation of how and why the trope applies? Or perhaps an explanation that is RightForTheWrongReasons, or an explanation that gives a [[IThoughtItMeant false impression]] of what the trope is, or [[ZeroContextExample no explanation at all]]?

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* Is there a clear, correct explanation of how and why the trope applies? Or perhaps an explanation that is RightForTheWrongReasons, or an explanation that gives a [[IThoughtItMeant false impression]] of what the trope is, or [[ZeroContextExample [[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample no explanation at all]]?
8th Aug '12 10:34:10 AM Stratadrake
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* Is there a clear, correct explanation of how and why the trope applies? Or perhaps an explanation that is RightForTheWrongReasons, or an explanation that gives a false impression of what the trope is, or [[ZeroContextExample no explanation at all]]?

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* Is there a clear, correct explanation of how and why the trope applies? Or perhaps an explanation that is RightForTheWrongReasons, or an explanation that gives a [[IThoughtItMeant false impression impression]] of what the trope is, or [[ZeroContextExample no explanation at all]]?



* Is the trope relevant in that particular context or [[SinkHole did someone apparently just throw it in because they could]]?
* Is the trope being used for either of [[GushingAboutShowsYouLike Gushing]] or [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike complaining]]?
* Is the trope being used as a verbal tic or StockPhrase?

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* Is the trope relevant in that particular context or [[SinkHole did someone apparently just throw it in just because they could]]?
* Is the trope being used for either of [[GushingAboutShowsYouLike Gushing]] or [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike complaining]]?
complaining]] about the work?
* Is the trope being used as a verbal tic VerbalTic or StockPhrase?



Post to the existing thread in the TropeRepairShop, or start a new one if there isn't one. Say you did a wick check. Explain what you were trying to check. List the wicks you checked, and for each wick explain which side of the case it weighs on (in '''bold''' for easy reference). Conclude your findings with the relevant statistics.

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Post to the existing thread in the TropeRepairShop, or start a new one if there isn't one. Say you did a wick check. Explain what you were trying to check. List the wicks you checked, and for For each wick explain article where you found a wick, '''copy and paste''' the line/sentence it appeared in (this allows other users to double-check your results) and state (preferably in '''bold''') which side of the case it weighs on (in '''bold''' for easy reference). on. Conclude your findings with the relevant statistics.statistics.

An alternate method of posting results is to sort the results by verdict so that e.g. all "correct" wicks are organized in one list and all "misuse" wicks are organized in a second list. This makes the results easier to visualize at a glance, unfortunately it takes a lot more work to do it this way.
3rd Apr '12 1:06:30 PM Telcontar
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You can find a page's list of wicks [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/relatedsearch.php?term=Main/InsertTitleHere here]] (replace "[=InsertTitleHere=]" with the actual title). If there's already a thread in the Trope Repair Shop discussing the trope, you can just press the "get usage counts" button above the first post in the thread and it will take you to the same page. Another option is to use the "Related To" button in the bottom right of the cluster at the top of most pages. It's a list of other pages which have in-wiki links to that page. That is, a list of its wicks.

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You can find a page's list of wicks [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/relatedsearch.php?term=Main/InsertTitleHere here]] (replace "[=InsertTitleHere=]" with the actual title). If there's already a thread in the Trope Repair Shop discussing the trope, you can just press the "get usage counts" button above the first post in the thread and it will take you to the same page. Another option is to use the "Related To" "related" button in the bottom right of the cluster at the top of most pages. It's a list of other pages which have in-wiki links to that page. That is, a list of its wicks.
3rd Apr '12 1:06:04 PM Telcontar
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You can find a page's list of wicks [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/relatedsearch.php?term=Main/InsertTitleHere here]] (replace "[=InsertTitleHere=]" with the actual title). If there's already a thread in the Trope Repair Shop discussing the trope, you can just press the "get usage counts" button above the first post in the thread and it will take you to the same page. It's a list of other pages which have in-wiki links to that page. That is, a list of its wicks.

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You can find a page's list of wicks [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/relatedsearch.php?term=Main/InsertTitleHere here]] (replace "[=InsertTitleHere=]" with the actual title). If there's already a thread in the Trope Repair Shop discussing the trope, you can just press the "get usage counts" button above the first post in the thread and it will take you to the same page. Another option is to use the "Related To" button in the bottom right of the cluster at the top of most pages. It's a list of other pages which have in-wiki links to that page. That is, a list of its wicks.
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