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# '''Ignore spaces and punctuation.''' There are different English-language standards about what to do with spaces; this is the one that best corresponds with the way the Wiki/TVTropes internal database works. For example, IWasNeverHere would go after ItemCrafting, not before. Note that hyphens and apostrophes are treated as punctuation.

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# '''Ignore spaces and punctuation.''' There are different English-language standards about what to do with spaces; this is the one that best corresponds with the way the Wiki/TVTropes Website/TVTropes internal database works. For example, IWasNeverHere would go after ItemCrafting, not before. Note that hyphens and apostrophes are treated as punctuation.
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# On English articles, '''the names of persons should be alphabetized by surname''', even names from languages that use different ordering. In case of identical surnames, the sorting is then done by first names. Mononyms and pseudonyms follow standard alphabetization rules.\\\

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# On English articles, '''the names of persons should be alphabetized by surname''', even names from languages that use different ordering. In case of identical surnames, the sorting is then done by first names.given name. Mononyms and pseudonyms follow standard alphabetization rules.\\\
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The apostrophe is barely visible here, so let's make it an exception.


Do this even for foreign-language articles. The vast majority of all tropes and work pages with foreign-language titles are in either Japanese, French or Spanish. Japanese doesn't have any articles, so mostly this just means ignoring "le", "la", "les", and "l'" at the beginning of articles with French titles, or "el", "la", "los", and "las" at the beginning of articles with Spanish titles. For example, LaResistance goes under R.\\\

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Do this even for foreign-language articles. The vast majority of all tropes and work pages with foreign-language titles are in either Japanese, French or Spanish. Japanese doesn't have any articles, so mostly this just means ignoring "le", "la", "les", and "l'" "l’" at the beginning of articles with French titles, or "el", "la", "los", and "las" at the beginning of articles with Spanish titles. For example, LaResistance goes under R.\\\
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If the only difference between the titles is an article at the beginning, then the title without the article goes first so ''Film/{{Arrival}}'' goes before ''Film/TheArrival''.

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If the only difference between the titles is an article at the beginning, then the title without the article goes first -- so ''Film/{{Arrival}}'' goes before ''Film/TheArrival''.

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# '''Shorter entries alphabetize before longer entries containing them.''' BigBad comes before BigBadEnsemble.\\\
Note that the rule still applies if the sole difference between them is a beginning article otherwise ignored. Hence, ''VideoGame/{{Warlords}}'' goes before ''Film/TheWarlords''.

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# '''Shorter entries alphabetize before longer entries containing them.''' BigBad comes before BigBadEnsemble.\\\
Note that the rule still applies if the sole difference between them is a beginning article otherwise ignored. Hence, ''VideoGame/{{Warlords}}'' goes before ''Film/TheWarlords''.

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Also note that an article using a colloquial spelling, or purposefully misspelled, ''is still an article''. For example, DaChief and DaEditor don't go under D, but under C and E, respectively. Likewise, YeOldeButcheredeEnglishe or YeGoodeOldeDays don't go under Y.

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Also note that an article using a colloquial spelling, or purposefully misspelled, ''is still an article''. For example, DaChief and DaEditor don't go under D, but under C and E, respectively. Likewise, YeOldeButcheredeEnglishe or YeGoodeOldeDays don't go under Y.\\\
If the only difference between the titles is an article at the beginning, then the title without the article goes first so ''Film/{{Arrival}}'' goes before ''Film/TheArrival''.
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# '''Ignore spaces and punctuation.''' There are different English-language standards about what to do with spaces; this is the one that best corresponds with the way the Wiki/TVTropes internal database works. For example, IWasNeverHere would go after ItemCrafting, not before. Note that hyphens are treated as punctuation.

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# '''Ignore spaces and punctuation.''' There are different English-language standards about what to do with spaces; this is the one that best corresponds with the way the Wiki/TVTropes internal database works. For example, IWasNeverHere would go after ItemCrafting, not before. Note that hyphens and apostrophes are treated as punctuation.
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Also note that an article using a colloquial spelling, or purposefully misspelled, ''is still an article''. For example, DaChief and DaEditor don't go under D, but under C and E, respectively.

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Also note that an article using a colloquial spelling, or purposefully misspelled, ''is still an article''. For example, DaChief and DaEditor don't go under D, but under C and E, respectively. Likewise, YeOldeButcheredeEnglishe or YeGoodeOldeDays don't go under Y.
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# On English articles, '''the names of persons should be alphabetized by surname''', even names from languages that use different ordering. Mononyms and pseudonyms follow standard alphabetization rules.\\\

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# On English articles, '''the names of persons should be alphabetized by surname''', even names from languages that use different ordering. In case of identical surnames, the sorting is then done by first names. Mononyms and pseudonyms follow standard alphabetization rules.\\\
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# On English articles, '''the names of persons should be alphabetized by surname''', even for names from languages that use different ordering. Mononyms and pseudonyms follow standard alphabetization rules.\\\

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# On English articles, '''the names of persons should be alphabetized by surname''', even for names from languages that use different ordering. Mononyms and pseudonyms follow standard alphabetization rules.\\\

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