History Administrivia / EverythingYouWantedToKnowAboutChangingNames

7th Dec '16 7:43:39 AM SeptimusHeap
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Eventually, the proposition will either go through or be rejected, depending on whether there is consensus supporting it. Note that a majority is not always a consensus. It's not simply "how many" votes; it's "what proportion" of the votes cast that matters. 5 votes out of 6 indicates a consensus. 49 votes out of 95 does not, even though it's a majority. In general, we regard a two-thirds majority as the threshold for a majority to be called a consensus, but this number is not set in stone. In particularly heated discussions where the back-and-forth continues even after the crowner has stabilized - regarding how to interpret the results, what to do with them, and so on- a moderator will have to step in and make the call.

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Eventually, the proposition will either go through or be rejected, depending on whether there is consensus supporting it. Note that a majority is not always a consensus. It's not simply "how many" votes; it's "what proportion" of the votes cast that matters. 5 14 votes out of 6 15 indicates a consensus. 49 votes out of 95 does not, even though it's a majority. In general, we regard a two-thirds majority as the threshold for a majority to be called a consensus, but this number is not set in stone. In particularly heated discussions where the back-and-forth continues even after the crowner has stabilized - regarding how to interpret the results, what to do with them, and so on- a moderator will have to step in and make the call.



Once the alternative titles crowner has stabilized, again, either discussion will die down with everyone accepting the winner, or a moderator will have to step in and sort things out. Either way, a new title will be chosen, which means the page will have to be moved and everything having to do with the trope will have to be updated accordingly. See Administrivia/HowToMoveAPage for instructions on how to go about that.


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Once the alternative titles crowner has stabilized, again, either discussion will die down with everyone accepting the winner, or a moderator will have to step in and sort things out. Either way, a new title will be chosen, which means the page will have to be moved and everything having to do with the trope will have to be updated accordingly. See Administrivia/HowToMoveAPage Only a moderator can move a trope page; you should press the [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/smiles/error.png Holler Button]] in the thread where the rename was discussed and post a request for instructions a moderator to move the page. Of course, if the page is to be moved to a place not in the Main/ namespace, then you can simply apply the guidance on how Administrivia/HowToMoveAPage. After the page has been moved, you'll have to go about that.

update the {{wick}}s.
24th Jan '16 12:29:56 PM SeptimusHeap
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* If a trope '''has the same title as a work of fiction''', except if that title is a common established term for that trope.



* If a trope was '''launched prematurely''' from YKTTW before consensus was reached about a title and a description, it should probably get sent right back.


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* If a trope was '''launched prematurely''' from YKTTW before consensus was reached about a title and a description, it should probably get sent right back.


10th Dec '15 10:49:45 AM rjd1922
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* '''Trope Names that are Spoilers'''. Not only is this now considered FanMyopia, it can ruin someone's enjoyment of a work. A good example of this would be the now renamed "Instrumentality", a massive spoiler for ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''. The trope was renamed to "Assimilation Plot", a title that doesn't spoil the work. As of this writing, there have been three other tropes renamed because of spoilers, "The Usual Suspects Ending", a spoiler for ''Film/TheUsualSuspects'', now known as "The Ending Changes Everything", "Thirty Five Minutes Ago", a spoiler for ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'', now known as "You Are Too Late" and "I Am John Smith", associated with spoilers from the ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'' series, now known as "Trust Password".

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* '''Trope Names that are Spoilers'''. Not only is this now considered FanMyopia, it can ruin someone's enjoyment of a work. A good example of this would be the now renamed "Instrumentality", a massive spoiler for ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''. The trope was renamed to "Assimilation Plot", "AssimilationPlot", a title that doesn't spoil the work. As of this writing, there have been three other tropes renamed because of spoilers, "The Usual Suspects Ending", a spoiler for ''Film/TheUsualSuspects'', now known as "The Ending Changes Everything", "TheEndingChangesEverything", "Thirty Five Minutes Ago", a spoiler for ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'', now known as "You Are Too Late" "YouAreTooLate" and "I Am John Smith", associated with spoilers from the ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'' series, now known as "Trust Password"."TrustPassword".
6th Mar '15 3:38:01 AM Morgenthaler
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* '''Trope Names that are Spoilers'''. Not only is this now considered FanMyopia, it can ruin someone's enjoyment of a work. A good example of this would be the now renamed "Instrumentality", a massive spoiler for ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''. The trope was renamed to "Assimilation Plot", a title that doesn't spoil the work. As of this writing, there have been three other tropes renamed because of spoilers, "The Usual Suspects Ending", a spoiler for TheUsualSuspects, now known as "The Ending Changes Everything", "Thirty Five Minutes Ago", a spoiler for ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}, now known as "You Are Too Late" and "I Am John Smith", associated with spoilers from the LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya series, now known as "Trust Password".

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* '''Trope Names that are Spoilers'''. Not only is this now considered FanMyopia, it can ruin someone's enjoyment of a work. A good example of this would be the now renamed "Instrumentality", a massive spoiler for ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''. The trope was renamed to "Assimilation Plot", a title that doesn't spoil the work. As of this writing, there have been three other tropes renamed because of spoilers, "The Usual Suspects Ending", a spoiler for TheUsualSuspects, ''Film/TheUsualSuspects'', now known as "The Ending Changes Everything", "Thirty Five Minutes Ago", a spoiler for ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}, ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'', now known as "You Are Too Late" and "I Am John Smith", associated with spoilers from the LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'' series, now known as "Trust Password".
5th Jan '15 2:26:47 AM Patachou
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* '''"Trope" used as a placeholder word''' (e.g. "[[MoreTropesThanGod More [Tropes] Than God]]", "[[GonnaNeedMoreTrope Gonna Need More [Trope] ]]") is now deprecated, as it misuses the word "trope".

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* '''"Trope" used as a placeholder word''' (e.g. "[[MoreTropesThanGod More "More [Tropes] Than God]]", "[[GonnaNeedMoreTrope Gonna God", "Gonna Need More [Trope] ]]") ") is now deprecated, as it misuses the word "trope".
3rd Dec '14 8:54:10 AM crazysamaritan
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Note that the TropeRepairShop has a maximum number of active threads. We do this because when we didn't do this, we ended up with a huge backlog of threads which stalled via lack of consensus, progress or action. This means you might not be able to create your thread right away. Be patient. It's just something we all have to deal with.

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Note that the TropeRepairShop has Administrivia/TropeRepairShop is monitored, and new threads must be approved before anyone can make a maximum number of active threads. second post. We do this because when we didn't do this, we ended up with a huge backlog of threads which stalled via lack of consensus, progress or action. This means that unless you share good reasons why the page needs repair, the second post might not be able a mod explaining why it was sent to create your thread right away. Be patient. It's just something we all have to deal with.
the [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/conversations.php?topic=trsarchive Repair Shop Morgue.]]
1st May '14 2:41:23 PM HersheleOstropoler
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* The trope is suffering from '''disuse'''--as in, it has very few wicks or inbounds. This can be an indicator that the title is too obscure. Furthermore, the ''cost'' of renaming is drastically lower when the trope has low usage--because the trope isn't entrenched, hardly anyone will even notice it's renamed; the transition is seamless. It also takes much less time to do the actual legwork of renaming: a small handful of wicks might take five minutes to change, whereas a trope with 2000 wicks would take a large, concerted effort. (And even if we found tropers willing to do that much grunt work, there are [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/conversations.php?topic=shorties plenty of other projects]] that could better use those man-hours.)\\

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* The trope is suffering from '''disuse'''--as in, it has very few wicks or inbounds. This isn't an argument for renaming ''per se'' -- though it can be an indicator that the title is too obscure. Furthermore, obscure -- but it means the ''cost'' of renaming is drastically lower when than if the trope has low usage--because were widely used. Because the trope isn't entrenched, hardly anyone will even notice it's renamed; the transition is seamless. It also takes much less time to do the actual legwork of renaming: a small handful of wicks might take five minutes to change, whereas a trope with 2000 wicks would take a large, concerted effort. (And even if we found tropers willing to do that much grunt work, there are [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/conversations.php?topic=shorties plenty of other projects]] that could better use those man-hours.)\\
9th Feb '14 2:36:48 AM troacctid
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* The trope is suffering from '''disuse''' - as in, it has very few wicks or inbounds. This can be an indicator that the title is too obscure. More importantly, however, is that the ''cost'' of renaming is drastically lower when the trope has low usage. Because the trope isn't entrenched, hardly anyone will even notice it's renamed; the transition is seamless. It also takes much less time to do the actual legwork of renaming: a small handful of wicks might take five minutes to change. In contrast, a trope with 2000 wicks would take a large, concerted effort to achieve. (And even if we found tropers willing to do that much grunt work, there are [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/conversations.php?topic=shorties plenty of other projects]] that could better use those man-hours.)\\

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* The trope is suffering from '''disuse''' - as '''disuse'''--as in, it has very few wicks or inbounds. This can be an indicator that the title is too obscure. More importantly, however, is that Furthermore, the ''cost'' of renaming is drastically lower when the trope has low usage. Because usage--because the trope isn't entrenched, hardly anyone will even notice it's renamed; the transition is seamless. It also takes much less time to do the actual legwork of renaming: a small handful of wicks might take five minutes to change. In contrast, change, whereas a trope with 2000 wicks would take a large, concerted effort to achieve.effort. (And even if we found tropers willing to do that much grunt work, there are [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/conversations.php?topic=shorties plenty of other projects]] that could better use those man-hours.)\\



* The name seems '''unnecessarily subjective''' - that is, it's outright spiteful or laudatory, but the trope isn't a [[YMMV.HomePage YMMV]] item. Sometimes the ''trope itself'' is unnecessarily subjective; in that case, it's better to first discuss what to do with the trope.

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* The name seems '''unnecessarily subjective''' - that subjective'''--that is, it's outright spiteful or laudatory, but the trope isn't a [[YMMV.HomePage YMMV]] item. Sometimes the ''trope itself'' is unnecessarily subjective; in that case, it's better to first discuss what to do with the trope.
9th Feb '14 2:32:41 AM troacctid
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* The trope is suffering from '''disuse''' - as in, it has significantly less wicks or inbounds than it's supposed to. Deciding how many wicks or inbounds a trope is "supposed to" have can be a bit of a problem, so this argument is best used in clear-cut cases, or when there are other tropes we can compare against. For details, see Administrivia/HowToDoAWickCheck and Administrivia/AnalyzingInbounds.

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* The trope is suffering from '''disuse''' - as in, it has significantly less very few wicks or inbounds than inbounds. This can be an indicator that the title is too obscure. More importantly, however, is that the ''cost'' of renaming is drastically lower when the trope has low usage. Because the trope isn't entrenched, hardly anyone will even notice it's supposed to. Deciding how many renamed; the transition is seamless. It also takes much less time to do the actual legwork of renaming: a small handful of wicks or inbounds might take five minutes to change. In contrast, a trope is "supposed to" have can be with 2000 wicks would take a bit of a problem, so this argument is best used in clear-cut cases, or when large, concerted effort to achieve. (And even if we found tropers willing to do that much grunt work, there are [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/conversations.php?topic=shorties plenty of other tropes we can compare against. For details, see Administrivia/HowToDoAWickCheck and Administrivia/AnalyzingInbounds.projects]] that could better use those man-hours.)\\
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Disuse works on a sliding scale. The lower the usage, the lower the barrier to rename.
2nd Jan '14 4:39:42 AM SciFiMs
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* The name is '''Unclear''' -- it fails to indicate what the trope is about, and thus undermines our goal of making the trope as accessible to as great a portion of our readership as possible. This includes [[WordSaladTitle titles that have nothing to do with the trope]], using technical terms that mean something else in everyday speech and names that rely on familiarity with a particular work to make sense/names that suggest something unrelated to most people (see Administrivia: Administrivia/{{Renamed Tropes}}).\\

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* The name is '''Unclear''' -- it fails to indicate what the trope is about, and thus undermines our goal of making the trope as accessible to as great a portion of our readership as possible. This includes [[WordSaladTitle titles that have nothing to do with the trope]], using technical terms that mean something else in everyday speech and names that rely on familiarity with a particular work to make sense/names sense/"names that suggest something unrelated to most people people" (see Administrivia: Administrivia/{{Renamed Tropes}}).\\
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