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Adding another reason why a null edit may occur.
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* Null edits can occur by accident however, such as when an editor inadvertently double-clicks the submit button after an edit.
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this seems outdated. As rude edit reasons in general are subject to being zapped when a moderator sees fit, I don't think this line is necessary.


* Gratuitous swearing not on an article like ClusterFBomb. If your edit reason contains "fuck", it will be blanked.

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* Gratuitous swearing not on an article like ClusterFBomb. If your edit reason contains "fuck", it will be blanked.
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Wiki/ cleanup


[[Administrivia/PleaseTropeResponsibly Keep your mood in mind.]] If you're having a bad day or in a bad mood in the first place, it's probably a good idea not to go editing. Wiki/TVTropes is not your job ([[JustForFun/TVTropesWillRuinYourLife even though it can feel like it]]), so you're under no obligation to work on it no matter your mood. If you find you're finding stupidity that needs to be removed wherever you go and it's irritating you more and more, taking a break is probably a good idea. Likewise, don't use this kind of editing [[ItsAllAboutMe as a way of getting your stress out]]. Yes, it's important to edit problematic pages, but that doesn't mean you can be a jerk about it.


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[[Administrivia/PleaseTropeResponsibly Keep your mood in mind.]] If you're having a bad day or in a bad mood in the first place, it's probably a good idea not to go editing. Wiki/TVTropes Website/TVTropes is not your job ([[JustForFun/TVTropesWillRuinYourLife even though it can feel like it]]), so you're under no obligation to work on it no matter your mood. If you find you're finding stupidity that needs to be removed wherever you go and it's irritating you more and more, taking a break is probably a good idea. Likewise, don't use this kind of editing [[ItsAllAboutMe as a way of getting your stress out]]. Yes, it's important to edit problematic pages, but that doesn't mean you can be a jerk about it.

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It is not possible to make a page completely blank (IIRC), and these instructions aren't relevant to the bullet list of reasons for null edits


!! When removing information, leaving an edit reason is even more vital because of the following reasons:
* It says exactly why you've removed the information.

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!! When removing information, leaving an edit reason is even more vital because of for the following reasons:
* It documents what has been removed and says exactly why you've removed the information.



* It documents what has been removed.

!! When removing information, it's also a good idea to leave an edit reason for each removal.
* If the cleanup is something where all removals have the same reason, such as cleaning natter and the only edits are the natter removals, it's probably not necessary to leave a reason for each.
* On the other hand, if your edit reason is "natter", but you've taken out ''one line'' of natter while you've also taken out a huge chunk of the main description of the work, several tropes that seemed to apply, and cut out non-lewd trope descriptions to leave several tropes with a near Administrivia/ZeroContextExample, your one reason edit may be seen as an excuse for nonconstructive editing.

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* It documents what has been removed.

!! When removing information, it's also a good idea to leave an edit reason for each removal.
* If the cleanup is something where all removals have the same reason, such as cleaning natter and the only edits are the natter removals, it's probably not necessary it may feel unnecessary to leave a reason for each.
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each, but keep in mind that when someone looks at the other hand, histories for individual pages, they look like deletions done without edit reasons.
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* Corollary:
if your edit reason is "natter", but you've taken out ''one line'' of natter while you've also taken out a huge chunk of the main description of the work, several tropes that seemed to apply, and cut out non-lewd trope descriptions to leave several tropes with a near Administrivia/ZeroContextExample, your one reason edit may be seen as an excuse for nonconstructive editing.



%%* To create and cut a page, making the page totally blank (not with the "click the edit button to start this new page" text) but technically existing. Generally, null edits like this are made in order to immediately CutList nonexistent pages. The most common reason for doing so is to eliminate ghost wicks, which sometimes show up due to bugs in the site code. When making such an edit, please include a reason stating that you are creating a page in order to eliminate ghost wicks.



%%* Sometimes, you need a null edit to get indexing to kick in. This can happen if a page is Administrivia/{{namespace}}d on an index, but isn't %%moved there yet, and the index bar doesn't show up at the bottom of that page. A null edit to the index page fixes this. An edit reason like %%"indexing trouble" is fine, though you don't really need one at all.
%%Obsolete. In order to get the page indexed again, go to the page that's supposed to be the index, click the edit button next to Page Type in %%the Page Info tab, then click save change without doing any changes. That way, you won't have to do blank edits.



Keep your mood in mind. If you're having a bad day or in a bad mood in the first place, it's probably a good idea not to go editing. Wiki/TVTropes is not your job ([[JustForFun/TVTropesWillRuinYourLife even though it can feel like it]]), so you're not obligated to work on it no matter your mood. If you find you're [[ThePurge finding stupidity that needs to be removed wherever you go]] and it's irritating you more and more, taking a break is probably a good idea. Likewise, don't use this kind of editing [[ItsAllAboutMe as a way of getting your stress out]]. Yes, it's important to edit problematic pages, but that doesn't mean you can be a jerk about it.


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[[Administrivia/PleaseTropeResponsibly Keep your mood in mind. mind.]] If you're having a bad day or in a bad mood in the first place, it's probably a good idea not to go editing. Wiki/TVTropes is not your job ([[JustForFun/TVTropesWillRuinYourLife even though it can feel like it]]), so you're not obligated under no obligation to work on it no matter your mood. If you find you're [[ThePurge finding stupidity that needs to be removed wherever you go]] go and it's irritating you more and more, taking a break is probably a good idea. Likewise, don't use this kind of editing [[ItsAllAboutMe as a way of getting your stress out]]. Yes, it's important to edit problematic pages, but that doesn't mean you can be a jerk about it.




* "Defending" a page from editors you don't want there, e.g. "This is my page, don't edit it" or "This page is about ''Uber Manly TestosteronePoisoning Combat: USMC BAMF,'' we don't want you saying that about Steele and Stone!". Administrivia/ThisIsAWiki after all, and we welcome all constructive editors and any page may be edited by any person as long as it is not locked.

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* "Defending" "[[Administrivia/RightingGreatWrongs Defending]]" a page from editors you don't want there, e.g. "This is my page, don't edit it" or "This page is about ''Uber Manly TestosteronePoisoning Combat: USMC BAMF,'' we don't want you saying that about Steele and Stone!". Administrivia/ThisIsAWiki after all, and we welcome all constructive editors and any page may be edited by any person as long as it is not locked.

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Keep your mood in mind. If you're having a bad day or in a bad mood in the first place, it's probably a good idea not to go editing. Wiki/TVTropes is not your job ([[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife even though it can feel like it]]), so you're not obligated to work on it no matter your mood. If you find you're [[ThePurge finding stupidity that needs to be removed wherever you go]] and it's irritating you more and more, taking a break is probably a good idea. Likewise, don't use this kind of editing [[ItsAllAboutMe as a way of getting your stress out]]. Yes, it's important to edit problematic pages, but that doesn't mean you can be a jerk about it.


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Keep your mood in mind. If you're having a bad day or in a bad mood in the first place, it's probably a good idea not to go editing. Wiki/TVTropes is not your job ([[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife ([[JustForFun/TVTropesWillRuinYourLife even though it can feel like it]]), so you're not obligated to work on it no matter your mood. If you find you're [[ThePurge finding stupidity that needs to be removed wherever you go]] and it's irritating you more and more, taking a break is probably a good idea. Likewise, don't use this kind of editing [[ItsAllAboutMe as a way of getting your stress out]]. Yes, it's important to edit problematic pages, but that doesn't mean you can be a jerk about it.

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Moved to Administrivia/ per TRS


* Due to the custom-title system, if a page is cut, all pages with the same title in all namespaces will all be displayed as a RedLink. [[labelnote:Example]]If Laconic.TropesAreFlexible were cut, then Administrivia.TropesAreFlexible would display as a red link, though the page would still exist.[[/labelnote]] Null editing such a page will correct this problem.

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* Due to the custom-title system, if a page is cut, all pages with the same title in all namespaces will all be displayed as a RedLink.Administrivia/RedLink. [[labelnote:Example]]If Laconic.TropesAreFlexible were cut, then Administrivia.TropesAreFlexible would display as a red link, though the page would still exist.[[/labelnote]] Null editing such a page will correct this problem.
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* "Defending" a page from editors you don't want there, e.g. "This is my page, don't edit it" or "This page is about ''Uber Manly TestosteronePoisoning Combat: USMC BAMF,'' we don't want you saying that about Steele and Stone!" Administrivia/ThisIsAWiki after all, and we welcome all constructive editors and any page may be edited by any person as long as it is not locked.

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* "Defending" a page from editors you don't want there, e.g. "This is my page, don't edit it" or "This page is about ''Uber Manly TestosteronePoisoning Combat: USMC BAMF,'' we don't want you saying that about Steele and Stone!" Stone!". Administrivia/ThisIsAWiki after all, and we welcome all constructive editors and any page may be edited by any person as long as it is not locked.
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* "Defending" a page from editors you don't want there, e.g. "This is my page, don't edit it" or "This page is about ''Uber Manly TestosteronePoisoning Combat: USMC BAMF,'' we don't want you saying that about Steele and Stone!" Administrivia/ThisIsAWiki after aall, and we welcome all constructive editors and any page may be edited by any person as long as it is not locked.

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* "Defending" a page from editors you don't want there, e.g. "This is my page, don't edit it" or "This page is about ''Uber Manly TestosteronePoisoning Combat: USMC BAMF,'' we don't want you saying that about Steele and Stone!" Administrivia/ThisIsAWiki after aall, all, and we welcome all constructive editors and any page may be edited by any person as long as it is not locked.
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Keep your mood in mind. If you're having a bad day or in a bad mood in the first place, it's probably a good idea not to go editing. Wiki/TVTropes is not your job ([[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife even though it can feel like it]]), so you're not obligated to work on it no matter your mood. If you find you're [[ThePurge finding stupidity that needs to be removed wherever you go]] and it's irritating you more and more, taking a break is probably a good idea. Likewise, don't use this kind of editing [[ItsAllAboutMe as a way of getting your stress out]]. Yes, it's important to edit problematic pages, but that doesn't mean you can [[JerkassHasAPoint be a jerk about it]].

''Rudeness is not cool.''

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Keep your mood in mind. If you're having a bad day or in a bad mood in the first place, it's probably a good idea not to go editing. Wiki/TVTropes is not your job ([[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife even though it can feel like it]]), so you're not obligated to work on it no matter your mood. If you find you're [[ThePurge finding stupidity that needs to be removed wherever you go]] and it's irritating you more and more, taking a break is probably a good idea. Likewise, don't use this kind of editing [[ItsAllAboutMe as a way of getting your stress out]]. Yes, it's important to edit problematic pages, but that doesn't mean you can [[JerkassHasAPoint be a jerk about it]].

''Rudeness is not cool.''
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* "Defending" a page from editors you don't want there, e.g. "This is my page, don't edit it" or "This page is about ''Uber Manly TestosteronePoisoning Combat: USMC BAMF,'' we don't want you saying that about Steele and Stone!" This is especially rude because we welcome all constructive editors and any page may be edited by any person as long as it is not locked.

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* "Defending" a page from editors you don't want there, e.g. "This is my page, don't edit it" or "This page is about ''Uber Manly TestosteronePoisoning Combat: USMC BAMF,'' we don't want you saying that about Steele and Stone!" This is especially rude because Administrivia/ThisIsAWiki after aall, and we welcome all constructive editors and any page may be edited by any person as long as it is not locked.
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* It helps people to understand why the information was undesired in the first place. As in, if you are going so far as to remove information someone has taken time to share, it's only polite to tell them why. In the cases of things such as Administrivia/{{natter}} and {{NSFW}} links, some new users may be genuinely unaware that Administrivia/ConversationInTheMainPage or linking to a [[ImageBooru Gelbooru]] pool is unwelcome and unwanted. Leaving a polite edit reason linking to the page on the policy related to the removed material is a courtesy that may help them to become a productive editor.

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* It helps people to understand why the information was undesired in the first place. As in, if you are going so far as to remove information someone has taken time to share, it's only polite to tell them why. In the cases of things such as Administrivia/{{natter}} [[Administrivia/ConversationInTheMainPage natter]] and {{NSFW}} links, some new users may be genuinely unaware that Administrivia/ConversationInTheMainPage or linking to a [[ImageBooru Gelbooru]] pool is unwelcome and unwanted. Leaving a polite edit reason linking to the page on the policy related to the removed material is a courtesy that may help them to become a productive editor.
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Keep your mood in mind. If you're having a bad day or in a bad mood in the first place, it's probably a good idea not to go editing. Wiki/TVTropes is not your job ([[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife even though it can feel like it]]), so you're not obligated to work on it no matter your mood. If you find you're [[ThePurge finding stupidity that needs to be removed wherever you go]] and it's irritating you more and more, taking a break is probably a good idea. Likewise, don't use this kind of editing [[ItsAllAboutMe as a way of getting your stress out]].

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Keep your mood in mind. If you're having a bad day or in a bad mood in the first place, it's probably a good idea not to go editing. Wiki/TVTropes is not your job ([[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife even though it can feel like it]]), so you're not obligated to work on it no matter your mood. If you find you're [[ThePurge finding stupidity that needs to be removed wherever you go]] and it's irritating you more and more, taking a break is probably a good idea. Likewise, don't use this kind of editing [[ItsAllAboutMe as a way of getting your stress out]].
out]]. Yes, it's important to edit problematic pages, but that doesn't mean you can [[JerkassHasAPoint be a jerk about it]].
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Found a better way to do it.


* Sometimes, you need a null edit to get indexing to kick in. This can happen if a page is Administrivia/{{namespace}}d on an index, but isn't moved there yet, and the index bar doesn't show up at the bottom of that page. A null edit to the index page fixes this. An edit reason like "indexing trouble" is fine, though you don't really need one at all.
* Similarly to the above, due to the custom-title system, if a page is cut, all pages with the same title in all namespaces will all be displayed as a RedLink. [[labelnote:Example]]If Laconic.TropesAreFlexible were cut, then Administrivia.TropesAreFlexible would display as a red link, though the page would still exist.[[/labelnote]] Null editing such a page will correct this problem.

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* %%* Sometimes, you need a null edit to get indexing to kick in. This can happen if a page is Administrivia/{{namespace}}d on an index, but isn't moved %%moved there yet, and the index bar doesn't show up at the bottom of that page. A null edit to the index page fixes this. An edit reason like "indexing %%"indexing trouble" is fine, though you don't really need one at all.
* Similarly %%Obsolete. In order to get the page indexed again, go to the above, due page that's supposed to be the index, click the edit button next to Page Type in %%the Page Info tab, then click save change without doing any changes. That way, you won't have to do blank edits.
* Due
to the custom-title system, if a page is cut, all pages with the same title in all namespaces will all be displayed as a RedLink. [[labelnote:Example]]If Laconic.TropesAreFlexible were cut, then Administrivia.TropesAreFlexible would display as a red link, though the page would still exist.[[/labelnote]] Null editing such a page will correct this problem.
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''Rudeness is not cool''

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''Rudeness is not cool''
cool.''
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* A personal attack on an editor, e.g. "ReportSiht is a {{basement dwell|er}}ing {{otaku}}," or a removal with "Comments such as this are the reason why all people like you suck."

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* A personal attack on an editor, e.g. "ReportSiht "JustForFun/ReportSiht is a {{basement dwell|er}}ing {{otaku}}," or a removal with "Comments such as this are the reason why all people like you suck."

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