History ASongOfIceAndFire / TropesAToI

29th Mar '17 2:43:46 AM BB8ForPresident
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* InterClassRomance: A few cases, though this being [[{{CrapsackWorld}} Westeros]] most of them don't end well. In his backstory Tyrion Lannister fell in love with Tysha (a peasant girl) but his father separated them. Jorah Mormont (an exiled knight) is endlessly pining for Daenerys "Stormborn" Targaryen. Mya Stone (a baseborn commoner) and Mychel Redfort (a highborn knight) are prevented from marrying. Arya (daughter of House Stark and later "Princess" of the North) and Gendry (a bastard from Flea Bottom) are hinted to be developing feelings while she's disguised as a commoner, although Gendry clearly fears they'll be separated once she returns to her proper station.
29th Mar '17 2:19:52 AM BB8ForPresident
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* FatBestFriend: Samwell Tarly, having terrible self esteem due to being constantly demeaned by his abusive father. Jon and others have tried to make him feel better about himself but it hasn't really taken yet.

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* FatBestFriend: Samwell Tarly, having terrible self esteem due to being constantly demeaned by his abusive father. Jon and others have tried to make him feel better about himself but it hasn't really taken yet. Hot Pie to Gendry and Arya, who often acts as TheLoad to their more capable survival skills.
23rd Mar '17 4:03:26 PM Tianzi
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** Although not exclusive to a medieval setting, there's also Cersei's notable homophobia when she refuses to let Ser Loras spend time with her son, apparently afraid he'll turn Tommen gay. Jaime is slightly more enlightened, with the focus of his dislike of Loras being projected hatred towards himself, which he admits. Still does not put him above jibes at Loras' relationship with Renly nor protesting a proposal to marry Cersei off to Oberyn Martell by bringing up his bisexuality.

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** Although not exclusive to a medieval setting, there's also Cersei's notable possible homophobia when she refuses to let Ser Loras spend time with her son, apparently afraid he'll turn Tommen gay.gay (though another possibility is that she just hates him for being a Tyrell and doesn't want Tommen to be more influenced by them than he would already be by having a Tyrell wife). Jaime is slightly more enlightened, with the focus of his dislike of Loras being projected hatred towards himself, which he admits. Still does not put him above jibes at Loras' relationship with Renly nor protesting a proposal to marry Cersei off to Oberyn Martell by bringing up his bisexuality.
23rd Mar '17 3:30:30 PM Tianzi
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* TheHecateSisters: At one point King's Landing has three "Queens" who fill those roles (even though one of them is one the opposite side than the other two) and draw their power from them:
** Margaery, the rising Queen, ostensibly the Maiden, who is there to marry the king.
** Cersei, the [[EvilMatriarch psychotic]] Queen Mother, the mother of the king who doesn't want to give up her power.
** Olenna, nicknamed "The Queen of Thorns", the wise and ruthless Crone, who pulls the strings, [[ScrewPolitenessImASenior gets away with scolding nominally more powerful people]] and is willing to kill the king if he doesn't behave.
13th Mar '17 8:53:44 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* CockFight: There was a non-heroic example of this long before the events of the book. Though she eventually married Eddard Stark, as a child Catelyn was betrothed to his older brother Brandon (who died in an unrelated incident) but was loved by a young Petyr Baelish (who would grow up to become the series premiere MagnificentBastard Littlefinger). This rivalry over Catelyn eventually led Petyr to challenge Brandon to a duel for Catelyn, where he got utterly [[CurbStompBattle curb stomped]]. The [[StartOfDarkness resulting effect on his character]] causes no end of problems for the whole of Westeros.
** Also in the back story is the cock fight to end all cock fights. Robert was rather understandably furious when Rhaegar kidnapped/eloped with Lyanna, his betrothed, which then sparked a ''war''. When Rhaegar and Robert finally met at the end of said war, they had an epic battle that Rhaegar fatally lost. Unfortunately for pretty much everyone, Lyanna died anyway.

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There was a non-heroic example of this long before the events of the book. Though she eventually married Eddard Stark, as a child Catelyn was betrothed to his older brother Brandon (who died in an unrelated incident) but was loved by a young Petyr Baelish (who would grow up to become the series premiere MagnificentBastard Littlefinger). This rivalry over Catelyn eventually led Petyr to challenge Brandon to a duel for Catelyn, where he got utterly [[CurbStompBattle curb stomped]]. The [[StartOfDarkness resulting effect on his character]] causes no end of problems for the whole of Westeros.
** Also in the back story is the cock fight to end all cock fights. Robert was rather understandably furious when Rhaegar kidnapped/eloped with Lyanna, his betrothed, which then sparked a ''war''. When Rhaegar and Robert finally met at the end of said the war, they had an epic battle that Rhaegar fatally lost. Unfortunately for pretty much everyone, Lyanna died anyway.



** Similarly, Khal Drogo deals with a belligerent Viserys while constrained not to spill the blood in his holy city by giving him the golden crown he asks for, in a different state of matter to which he expects it. Merchants visiting said city also bring guardsmen who strangle with silk ropes to punish thieves.

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** Similarly, Khal Drogo deals with a belligerent Viserys while constrained not to spill the blood in his holy city by giving him the golden crown he asks for, in a different state of matter to which he expects it. Merchants visiting said city Visiting merchants also bring guardsmen who strangle with silk ropes to punish thieves.
8th Mar '17 5:05:42 PM nombretomado
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** There is a stealth reference to Creator/TadWilliams' ''MemorySorrowAndThorn'' with the mention of two brothers, Josua and Elyas, constantly bickering with each other.

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** There is a stealth reference to Creator/TadWilliams' ''MemorySorrowAndThorn'' ''Literature/MemorySorrowAndThorn'' with the mention of two brothers, Josua and Elyas, constantly bickering with each other.
26th Feb '17 8:52:44 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* DumbMuscle: Particularly large and strong characters are often quite noticeably dumber than the others.
** Hodor is a giant of a man with the mind of a child and the inability to say anything except "Hodor."
** Small Paul is a large, simple-minded member of the Night's Watch.
** Gregor Clegane is freakishly large and little more than an attack dog for Tywin. Tyrion notes that he's a terrible battle commander who leads by simple fear.
** Grenn is a large, big-shouldered man who constantly falls for Pyp's jokes and tricks.
** As a race, giants are twice as large as humans and by all accounts less intelligent. They have barely any technology at all.
21st Feb '17 8:10:24 AM DoktorSoviet
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**Another character, Cersei, is almost directly inspired by Margaret of Anjou, who married Henry IV and ostensibly started the War of the Roses to begin with. Quite like Cersei, Margaret manipulated the king (who was less than competent on his own) and played a sort of [[TheChessmaster chess master-like]] role in the conflict.
**Richard, the Early of Warwick, is very similar to Roose Bolton, initially fighting for the Yorks [[spoiler:but turning against them when the young Edward of York marries someone instead of his betrothed.]]
**The Bishop of London asked the people who they wanted to see as king, and they gave an uproarious shout in the favor of Edward of York. This is almost exactly like the scene in which Robb Stark [[spoiler:is proclaimed King in the North by his bannermen.]]
4th Feb '17 8:03:18 PM Basara-kun
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* ExtranormalInstitute: The Citadel. Zig-zagged in that the institute tries hard to be normal and to propagate the paradigm in which magic is nothing more than weird cultural studies. But there is a contrarian minority in the Citadel, which actively tries to study magic.
* TheExtremistWasRight:
** In the context of a feudal society with sharp class divisions and a fixed hierarchy of liege lord-vassal-lower vassals-landed knights and small-folk way, way below, is it more effective for a Lord to act like Tywin Lannister and ruthlessly cut down rebellions root and stem or be relatively benign and First Among Equals, like the Starks, and accept submission by the Boltons, leaving them with memories of bitterness and [[spoiler:plotting future rebellions]]?
** Tywin Lannister is also shown to deliberately cultivate this image among his supporters such as Kevan Lannister and Grandmaester Pycelle who believe that he's a man who does what needs to be done and so, is above the petty judgment of critics like Tyrion and the small-folk. Later both of them [[spoiler:are killed for the same justification by Varys the Spider. He acknowledges that they are relatively benign and are stabilizing a realm but for him, the short term chaos is useful for peace, as he envisions it, in the longer run even mocking them for being good men in service to a poor cause]].


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* ExtranormalInstitute: The Citadel. Zig-zagged in that the institute tries hard to be normal and to propagate the paradigm in which magic is nothing more than weird cultural studies. But there is a contrarian minority in the Citadel, which actively tries to study magic.
* ExtremeLibido: Amerei Frey is a nymphomaniac, which greatly reduces her value in an ArrangedMarriage between House Frey and House Lannister.
* TheExtremistWasRight:
** In the context of a feudal society with sharp class divisions and a fixed hierarchy of liege lord-vassal-lower vassals-landed knights and small-folk way, way below, is it more effective for a Lord to act like Tywin Lannister and ruthlessly cut down rebellions root and stem or be relatively benign and First Among Equals, like the Starks, and accept submission by the Boltons, leaving them with memories of bitterness and [[spoiler:plotting future rebellions]]?
** Tywin Lannister is also shown to deliberately cultivate this image among his supporters such as Kevan Lannister and Grandmaester Pycelle who believe that he's a man who does what needs to be done and so, is above the petty judgment of critics like Tyrion and the small-folk. Later both of them [[spoiler:are killed for the same justification by Varys the Spider. He acknowledges that they are relatively benign and are stabilizing a realm but for him, the short term chaos is useful for peace, as he envisions it, in the longer run even mocking them for being good men in service to a poor cause]].
8th Jan '17 7:11:53 AM SeptimusHeap
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** Several men claim to be in love with Daenerys but actually either want her crown, her dragons, and/or [[FreudWasRight something else]]. However, there may be a genuine example in [[spoiler:Ser Barristan.]]

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** Several men claim to be in love with Daenerys but actually either want her crown, her dragons, and/or [[FreudWasRight something else]].else. However, there may be a genuine example in [[spoiler:Ser Barristan.]]
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