History ASongOfIceAndFire / TropesAToI

21st Feb '17 8:10:24 AM DoktorSoviet
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**Another character, Cersei, is almost directly inspired by Margaret of Anjou, who married Henry IV and ostensibly started the War of the Roses to begin with. Quite like Cersei, Margaret manipulated the king (who was less than competent on his own) and played a sort of [[TheChessmaster chess master-like]] role in the conflict.
**Richard, the Early of Warwick, is very similar to Roose Bolton, initially fighting for the Yorks [[spoiler:but turning against them when the young Edward of York marries someone instead of his betrothed.]]
**The Bishop of London asked the people who they wanted to see as king, and they gave an uproarious shout in the favor of Edward of York. This is almost exactly like the scene in which Robb Stark [[spoiler:is proclaimed King in the North by his bannermen.]]
4th Feb '17 8:03:18 PM Basara-kun
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* ExtranormalInstitute: The Citadel. Zig-zagged in that the institute tries hard to be normal and to propagate the paradigm in which magic is nothing more than weird cultural studies. But there is a contrarian minority in the Citadel, which actively tries to study magic.
* TheExtremistWasRight:
** In the context of a feudal society with sharp class divisions and a fixed hierarchy of liege lord-vassal-lower vassals-landed knights and small-folk way, way below, is it more effective for a Lord to act like Tywin Lannister and ruthlessly cut down rebellions root and stem or be relatively benign and First Among Equals, like the Starks, and accept submission by the Boltons, leaving them with memories of bitterness and [[spoiler:plotting future rebellions]]?
** Tywin Lannister is also shown to deliberately cultivate this image among his supporters such as Kevan Lannister and Grandmaester Pycelle who believe that he's a man who does what needs to be done and so, is above the petty judgment of critics like Tyrion and the small-folk. Later both of them [[spoiler:are killed for the same justification by Varys the Spider. He acknowledges that they are relatively benign and are stabilizing a realm but for him, the short term chaos is useful for peace, as he envisions it, in the longer run even mocking them for being good men in service to a poor cause]].


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* ExtranormalInstitute: The Citadel. Zig-zagged in that the institute tries hard to be normal and to propagate the paradigm in which magic is nothing more than weird cultural studies. But there is a contrarian minority in the Citadel, which actively tries to study magic.
* ExtremeLibido: Amerei Frey is a nymphomaniac, which greatly reduces her value in an ArrangedMarriage between House Frey and House Lannister.
* TheExtremistWasRight:
** In the context of a feudal society with sharp class divisions and a fixed hierarchy of liege lord-vassal-lower vassals-landed knights and small-folk way, way below, is it more effective for a Lord to act like Tywin Lannister and ruthlessly cut down rebellions root and stem or be relatively benign and First Among Equals, like the Starks, and accept submission by the Boltons, leaving them with memories of bitterness and [[spoiler:plotting future rebellions]]?
** Tywin Lannister is also shown to deliberately cultivate this image among his supporters such as Kevan Lannister and Grandmaester Pycelle who believe that he's a man who does what needs to be done and so, is above the petty judgment of critics like Tyrion and the small-folk. Later both of them [[spoiler:are killed for the same justification by Varys the Spider. He acknowledges that they are relatively benign and are stabilizing a realm but for him, the short term chaos is useful for peace, as he envisions it, in the longer run even mocking them for being good men in service to a poor cause]].
8th Jan '17 7:11:53 AM SeptimusHeap
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** Several men claim to be in love with Daenerys but actually either want her crown, her dragons, and/or [[FreudWasRight something else]]. However, there may be a genuine example in [[spoiler:Ser Barristan.]]

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** Several men claim to be in love with Daenerys but actually either want her crown, her dragons, and/or [[FreudWasRight something else]].else. However, there may be a genuine example in [[spoiler:Ser Barristan.]]
30th Dec '16 4:05:42 AM joergenjetsam
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** Stannis and Renly Baratheon, who fight over the throne. Stannis is the rightful king, but Renly is far more charismatic. Stannis seems to be the Cain in this equation, although even he may not realize it.

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** Stannis and Renly Baratheon, who fight over the throne. Stannis is the rightful king, but Renly is far more charismatic. Stannis seems to be the Cain in this equation, although even he may not realize it. Complicated further as Renly fully intended to be the Cain himself, but died before anything came of it.
21st Dec '16 4:51:08 PM lakingsif
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* BeautyIsBest: Sansa starts as this. She adores Joffrey, simply because he is very handsome (and a prince) and ignores him being very cruel, have her pet wolf killed and even tried to kill her sister. She also likes queen Cersei because of her beauty. She changes, however, throughout the series when she notices how beautiful people like Joffrey and Cersei keep hurting her, while ugly and disfigured people like Tyrion and Sandor Clegane try to protect her.
21st Dec '16 3:08:11 PM Discar
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* AManIsNotAVirgin:
** Jon Snow is a virgin when he swears his oath to the Night's Watch, which Ygritte finds completely unbelievable (and sets out to rectify). A lot of men who sign on to the watch before they lose their virginity are in a similar situation, though most don't take the vow of chastity very seriously once they discover there's a brothel in Mole's Town. This seems to have been the case for most of the Watch's history, as Mormont brushes mention of it aside by saying that if they killed every member of the Watch that went to the brothel, they'd quickly have no one left on The Wall.
** Invoked when Samwell Tarly suggests claiming that Gilly's child is his bastard, and sending them to his father's castle to be raised there, as Lord Tarly would be secretly pleased that his unmanly son had at least proved able to lie with a woman.
** Quentyn Martell's companions try in vain to get him to sleep with a whore or two, pointing out that while men prefer to marry virgins, wives appreciate it when [[AllGirlsWantBadBoys their husband is sexually experienced]].
19th Dec '16 9:19:36 AM Morgenthaler
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* {{Badass}}: Several, though that doesn't save them from a painful death.
** Jaime Lannister and Barristan Selmy. Each man is a MasterSwordsman whose reputation for badassery is straight-up [[MemeticBadass memetic.]]
** [[TheGoodChancellor Ned Stark]] and [[BloodKnight Robert Baratheon,]] two vastly different childhood best friends who led a rebellion against a powerful three-hundred year old dynasty and won. They each notoriously defeated two of their generation's greatest warriors, with Robert killing WarriorPrince Rhaegar Targaryen and Ned supposedly killing the legendary Kingsguard knight, Ser Arthur Dayne.
** Brienne of Tarth, the series' crowning ActionGirl.
** The Clegane brothers, Gregor "The Mountain that Rides" and Sandor "The Hound." They are both freakishly huge, strong, fast, highly dangerous [[BloodKnight Blood Knights]] who each have a OneManArmy status. [[CainAndAbel And they hate each other.]]
** [[WarriorPrince Oberyn]] [[LightningBruiser Nymeros]] [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge Martell]], [[TheRedBaron The Red Viper.]] Undeniably.
** [[ProfessionalKiller Bronn.]]
** [[KnightInShiningArmor Loras Tyrell, The Knight of Flowers,]] is famous for being one of the youngest, handsomest, most skilled knights in the Seven Kingdoms.
** Though it takes some of them awhile, all of [[BadassFamily The Starks]] prove themselves to be this beyond a doubt, especially [[YoungConqueror Robb]] and [[LittleMissBadass Arya.]]
** By that token, [[HeroicBastard Jon Snow, the bastard son of Ned Stark,]] also develops into an effective leader and badass warrior.
** Though she'll tell you she's only a young girl who knows little of the ways of war, [[AChildShallLeadThem Daenerys]] [[TheWomanWearingTheQueenlyMask "Stormborn"]] [[TheAce Targaryen]] is a force to be reckoned with.
** Pretty much required in the [[{{Pirate}} Ironborn culture,]] especially their overlords, [[BigScrewedUpFamily The Greyjoys.]]
** This is also true of the barbaric [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Dothraki]] culture in Essos, namely [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority Khal Drogo.]]
** The Northerners are descended from the First Men, worship the Old Gods, and are generally RatedMForManly. The farther up north you go, the more badass the people seem to get.
13th Dec '16 7:49:31 PM redfox5367
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* BigBeautifulWoman: Roose Bolton eventually comes to feel this way about his third wife, "Fat" Walda Frey, and he even admits to Theon that he's become oddly fond of her. Considering [[SoftSpokenSadist who's saying this]] it's definitely notable. He also specifically chose her because he was given the pick of women from [[MassiveNumberedSiblings House Frey]] and offered his prospective bride's weight in silver for her dowry. Being a MagnificentBastard, he picked the fattest one.

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Roose Bolton eventually comes to feel this way about his third wife, "Fat" Walda Frey, and he even admits to Theon that he's become oddly fond of her. Considering [[SoftSpokenSadist who's saying this]] it's definitely notable. He also specifically chose her because he was given the pick of women from [[MassiveNumberedSiblings House Frey]] and offered his prospective bride's weight in silver for her dowry. Being a MagnificentBastard, he picked the fattest one.one.
** Myranda Royce is described as "buxom, fleshy and thick-waisted" and seems rather proud of it.
13th Nov '16 11:26:10 AM cherrychels
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*** While Jon is described as an excellent swordsman, Ramsay was trained by someone who was not trained himself, and "[[TheBerserker wields a sword like a butcher's knife]]".



** Jon Snow to Ramsay Bolton. Both are highborn bastard sons of powerful family houses (Jon to the Starks and Ramsay to the Boltons obviously) who rose to high ranking positions -- Jon becomes Lord Commander of the Night's Watch and Ramsay as the Heir to Warden of the North and House Bolton. However, where Jon is a brave, heroic, and honourable person who loves his family and true-born siblings, countering Westerosi beliefs of illegitimate children, Ramsay is a vicious, cruel psychotic man who likely killed his true-born half-brother and is implied to be where those stereotypes in Westeros originated.

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** Jon Snow to Ramsay Bolton. Both are highborn bastard sons of powerful family houses (Jon to the Starks and Ramsay to the Boltons obviously) who rose to high ranking positions -- Jon becomes Lord Commander of the Night's Watch and Ramsay as the Heir to Warden of the North and House Bolton. However, where Jon is [[HeroicBastard a brave, heroic, and honourable person who loves his family and true-born siblings, siblings]], countering Westerosi beliefs of illegitimate children, Ramsay [[BastardBastard is a vicious, cruel psychotic man who likely killed his true-born half-brother half-brother]] and is implied to be where those stereotypes in Westeros originated.originated.
*** While Jon is described as an excellent swordsman, Ramsay was trained by someone who was not trained himself, and "[[TheBerserker wields a sword like a butcher's knife]]".
*** Jon has [[BondCreature Ghost]], the male albino direwolf, as his companion. Ramsay keeps a growing pack of female hounds named after women he has raped, killed, and skinned, which he claims he has specifically trained to kill Direwolves.
13th Nov '16 11:13:29 AM cherrychels
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* ChronicHeroSyndrome: To the frustration of her advisors, [[UnwantedAssistance many of the locals]], Dany cannot be persuaded to leave Essos to its own problems and move on to her goals in Westeros. As a result of this trope used with Dany, Tyrion recommends that [[spoiler:Aegon, instead of showing up on her doorstep asking her to marry him, invade Westeros. He can't ''win'', so she'll have to go to rescue him. This would not only put her own indefinitely delayed invasion plans back on track, but is also more likely to make a good first impression]].

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* ChronicHeroSyndrome: To the frustration of her advisors, [[UnwantedAssistance many of the locals]], Dany cannot be persuaded to leave Essos to its own problems and move on to her goals in Westeros. As a result of Tyrion uses this trope used with in regard to Dany, Tyrion recommends recommending that [[spoiler:Aegon, instead of showing up on her doorstep asking her to marry him, invade Westeros. He can't ''win'', so she'll have to go to rescue him. This would not only put her own indefinitely delayed invasion plans back on track, but is also more likely to make a good first impression]].
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