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xwingace: Putting this here for a rebuttal. Haven't removed it, as it's a valid example, but there's something to be said about it. Another, more recent Doctor Who example: a number of fans complained that the "obviously" technologically primitive clockwork androids of "The Girl In The Fireplace" were nonsensical, as why wouldn't a futuristic society be able to build something more electronic and flashy-light-filled. This overlooks, of course, the question of exactly how hard it must be to build an anthropomorphic android with some degree of human-like sentience entirely out of clockwork, which rather seems like the sort of thing you'd only do if you'd already licked electronics and were doing it entirely for stylistic reasons or, perhaps, for fun.

There's actually an in-episode reason given for this, too. The robots are the emergency backup, their springs released when the electrical systems fail and all power is lost so they, independent of electricity can repair the ship and restore power. Note that the rest of the ship they're on *is* futuristic and flashy-light filled.

KJMackley: I pulled this...
  • This troper's problem with NX-01 is that it doesn't look "about 150 years in advance of current technology". Instead it looks like something straight from later eras of Star Trek, which implies that for some reason certain design elements were introduced, dropped for the TOS era, and then introduced again. And, funnily enough, while consoles inside NX-01 do have godly amount of switches, the creator's insistence at using only touch displays meant all those buttons and switches became all but invisible. This troper blames it on creator's inability to break free out of 24th century Trek influences.

Not because it says something wrong, but there is an impression of Unpleasable Fanbase and the entire article that came before this already talked about the needs to make something look futuristic (like the modern Trek) and yet primitive to the 60's series level of technology. There was really no way to please the advocates of both sides.

Andrusi: Just a purely useless comment here, regarding this example:
  • The replacement for the Space Shuttle will be the "Ares" program, which is...the 1960s Apollo "moon rocket" program with microcomputers.
    • The problem here is returning to the capsule design, which does look more primitive than the kind of mini-shuttle concepts that were being mooted a few years ago.
Personally, I'm of the opinion that the VentureStar was never canceled. Any references you see to NASA taking things in a different direction are figments of your imagination.