This is discussion archived from a time before the current discussion method was installed.
Looney Toons: I'm not entirely sure I understand what makes this a trope, nor why the first example exemplifies it.
Ununnilium: Hmmmmm. I wonder, does the taking-out of licensed properties from the Super Robot Wars plot to create the Original Generation games count? `.`
how does the spirited away thing count?
osh: Some purist bitched about the line being added, cause in the original you can get the impression Chihiro doesn't remember any of the previous events. Apparently the idea is a western audience wouldn't like the Reset Button implication.
Lale: Cut the Fan Wank "On the other hand, this editor has never read the books and only has seen the movies. He thought that this movie was the most pointless so far. A feeling of leading up to something that never happens pervades the movie. The earlier books were extremely well-adapted to a new medium and didn't leave the non-reader utterly confused." BTW, I don't see how the non-reader couldn't be helplessly confused after watching any of these films. Coherency for non-readers never struck me as something they were going for.
Lale: And I actually love Spider-man 3, Air Of Mystery.
Prfnoff: Removed the Tintin example, which fits much better under Woolseyism.
Uncle Dark: How is this different from Adaptation Distillation?
Rebochan: Agreed - this seems to be a combonation of Woosleyism and Adaptation Distillation, with nothing to show to make it stand out on its own.
Meta Four: Woolseyism is about translating a work into another language. Doesn't really apply here.
Adaptation Distillation is about an adaptation that keeps the stuff everyone loves about the original and omits the stuff everyone doesn't like. Maybe we can make a distinction by specifying that Pragmatic Adaptation changes or adds material that wasn't present in the original.
Uncle Dark: Done.
Luis Dantas: Is the Battle Royale movie considered better than the book? Having seen both (and the manga) I think the movie is the weakest implementation of the idea (and the book, the best).
Rebochan: I took the comment about fans liking Zoycite out, because I've only noticed a small group of them that actually liked her, and none of them actually liked that they switched his gender.
Trimeta: I'd say that the Stardust movie applies here, especially the ending; frankly, the ending of the book was a bit weak, and the movie completely changed it, making it more cinematic.
Logos: The movie has a happily-ever-after ending, as the hero and heroine do indeed live happily ever after. The book has a bit of a downer ending, as the hero is mortal and the immortal heroine can't return home. The movie is snappy, polished and fun. The book is none of those things. Bits and pieces of the book were replaced entirely because they wouldn't have worked cinematically, or because a film audience wouldn't have put up with them. So I'd say it could qualify.
Vermelhored: the part on Watchmen is really bad... the movie paints all the greys with either black or white ink. Ozymandias became a Designated Villain and Rorschach a Designated Hero, the original book actually never has Ozy as a "villain" but rather as a different kind of hero. And Rorschach, well Alan Moore himself told he created him as "a character so extremist even the most right-wing-ist person would be scared of his actitudes and actions". Snyder simply turned the Misaimed Fandom's Fanon into Canon. Not much Pragmatic Adaptation, more like Adaptation Decay.
