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TravisWells: Regarding this:
  • Emmanuel Lewis, the star of Webster, was twelve when he started playing the title role and seventeen when the show ended. His character aged only three years during the show's six-year run, from age five to eight.
Wikipedia says he was 11 to 16, playing a character 5 to 11. Anyone familiar with the show can confirm?

Marie: OK, seriously, Unknown Troper, Ms Mauriello's breasts are not bound in season two, they're just not very large, so with the cut and thick cloth of her standard dress they usually aren't obvious. I can provide S2 screen shots that clearly show unbound breasts if you like, and even compare and contrast with out-of-character pics.

Cassius335: Maybe for S3 they'll up her age to 10. If May from Pokémon can get away with it...

Hmm. Speaking Of Which...

Marie: "Maybe for S3 they'll up her age to 10." I think the real problem with her growing isn't so much her figure as her height. She's pretty skinny, and they probably could make her breast bind if she got any bigger, but she's already nearly as tall as Magnus (guy who plays Sportacus), and it's not unbelievable that she could end up taller than him. I'm not sure a mere two years would be enough to handwave that. ::Looks up May:: Wow, she's busty for a ten year old.

Marie: OK, Unknown Troper, whether you're the same one as before or not, I've reverted your edit to the bit in parentheses about Julianna's breasts not being bound, because wording it "although ..." didn't make much sense, as the point of the surrounding sentence is that they're not doing much to try to make her look pre-pubescent despite the role.

Cassius335: "but she's already nearly as tall as Magnus (guy who plays Sportacus), and it's not unbelievable that she could end up taller than him." Hmm. Bit more difficult, but if they really consider it a problem, Magnus could always start standing on boxes. :p

TheKakapo : As far as Dennis the Menace goes, it's really irritating to see early comics and see that the character was actually quite entertaining... sassy, rude, and actually destructive rather than this Family Circus-influenced bull you see in the comics nowadays. The only explanation? Too many depressing years of seeing five candles on that birthday cake. The character is in purgatory and has started to lose it. Wild Mass Guessing ?

joeyjojo: I think in should be pointed out that this happens to adults too, James bond seem to be in his mid 30s since the 60s

Cassius335: That's a different trope... Comic-Book Time, maybe.

Lord Jiro: Can anyone confirm that Jeremy from Zits is still griping about being 15 (despite several in-strip birthdays)? It's been a while since I've read more than the Sunday strip of the comic.

(Anonymous says...) He is, but I just made a semi-major edit to the part about Dennis (what was there before was *not* neutral - or is this different from Wikipedia?) and also at the top. And, BTW, Hank Ketcham's book does say he always turns 6, because he's supposed to be eternally 5.5. Look at the candles the next time, but I'm almost sure it's 6.

Friends, I think a major *reason* for this trope was seriously missed, which I've added. Most comic strips of the early days, radio, etc. could do this, and the times changed while the characters staye dthe same; I dare say every x years or whatever could be considered a new canon. TV writers simply droppe dthe ball, failing to adapt to the different medium in the 1950s and 1960s. (And even later some, but not as much.) This fact really needed to be included, because a Wiki should be encyclopedic in nature, and halp to incrase knowledge.
Looney Toons: First off, a reminder: I created the initial entry for this page, and I had a specific purpose in mind for it. I've just now stepped back and reread this page in its entirety for the first time in many, many months. And I just have to say that it's mutated violently away from my original intentions. Of course cartoon characters and comic strip characters don't age unless the artist makes an effort. That really ought to be its own trope. What this one was supposed to be about was misguided producers/writers/directors trying to force time to stop for some poor kid, and maybe wrecking his psyche in the process.

(Anonymous says...) I wondered why int he world people were talking about comics and cartoons in this section - but the major part, at least, is I think a good part of the reason, and belongs. Perhaps make the cartoon/comic strip one its own trope, and link to it from htere in the part mentioning why TV writers and producers seem to be stuck in that time warp?

As you can tell, I haven't the foggiest how to edit this, you can tells my "[[" stuff is from wikipedia, most likely.

fleb: I completely regret getting caught up and adding to the mutation with The Boxcar Children example, now that I re-read the actual description (and that noticeably alien penultimate paragraph). As The Atoner, I think I'd like to help begin emergency vivisection, reconstruction, and hitting-it-with-lightning on this article to turn it back into LT's original intent, so it doesn't read so much like a thorough re-tread of Comic-Book Time. The example overlap is almost total right now.

Looney Toons: Thank you, fleb! I'm sure you will do an excellent job, if you haven't done it already.
Steven As Himself: From the examples page:
  • While the first three Ace Attorney games take place over three years, all (except a few who change outfits, and only outfits) of the characters keep the same sprites throughout every game. Wright hand waves this, thinking that "maybe it's 'cause we're always together, but she looks pretty much the same to me."

This example is not only wrong (the characters do actually have younger and older sprites when the games calls for it, and the characters age between each game, in accordance to the years the games take place), but it's also completely unrelated to this trope. I didn't want to outright delete it so I put it up here for discussion, but I really think it should just go.

Legendarylugi: I think this page needs to be split (or at least edited a bit). It refers to two different tropes. One is a character who's forced to remain child-like even though they really HAVE grown up, and one is when the actor ages while the character does not. Very different things. For instance, Zaboo from The Guild, is very clearly "not allowed to grow up" (forced to remain infantile, breastfed until he was 11), but he does not fit the definition that the page largely focuses on. That meaning, the meaning of a character who is unallowed act their age because of outside circumstances, is alluded to, but kind of ignored.