Archived Discussion

This is discussion archived from a time before the current discussion method was installed.

Major Major: Rewrote of the Odysseus entry, mostly to correct a flipped chronology (IIRC Circe was encountered by Odyssesus long before Calypso, even though her island appears only later in the story, as a flashback) and the description of Odysseus killing the suitors as a Kick the Dog trope.

thatother1dude: this might not be in all versions but I added that he killed all of the maids that copulated with any of the suitors (which begs the question: How the hell would he know which ones did)
Kizor: There seems to be a considerable influx of sex tropes lately. It's all well and good that the wiki's scope is expanded, but I can't shake the feeling that in a year's time we'll have a comprehensive collection of online porn story tropes.

Hasher Britarse Not any more, mate. Back in the days of Deep Throat or I Am Curious, Yellow sex films had plots, now any plot is just link to the next sex scene so there's no room for tropes. Sex Tropes only really refer to sex as a plot device in other films/shows.

Still the way fantasy and Sci Fi are going now the plot is just filler till the next big CGI effect so perhaps they'll lose tropes too.

Morgan Wick: Is that a trope in itself? CGI Porn?

Seth: Please... never mention that again. Plotless Blockbuster, CGI Mind Melter anything but that.

HeartBurn Kid: I've always just called it Bruckheiming.

Seth: I don't really get why. I only saw the first 2 days of 24 but they seemed plot laden.

Morgan Wick: Jerry Bruckheimer is the creator of CSI, not 24.

Seth: Oh yeah. Well Bruckheiming is a good name but it looses points for not being a wiki word.
Ununnilium: Could you attribute the quote, Lale? `.` IMHO, it'd look better that way.

Lale: It was used in an episode of Animal Planet's The Most Extreme, but I have no idea who originally said it.
Zeke: Is there a reason the intro to this trope is so strident? Yes, of course, double standards are bad, woman power and love the Earth and I'll be over here... but I don't see the need to hammer it through the reader's skull. [EDIT: Much better.]
Citizen: Okay, okay, I know this isn't going to fly in the long run, but just for a little bit, I wanted to see this picture on this page, and this is why. Remove at will. =P I considered adding the Fate/stay night fandom example associated with it to the list, but none of the other examples deal with fans or "obscure" memes, so meh.
Altered the description a bit to make note that there are actual reasons this trope is so prevalent.

Erica MZDM: Removed

Whether this double standard is fair and reasonable or hypocritical and antiquated is hotly contested. Egalitarians believe that everyone should be held to the same standard, but defenders of the double standard point to the differences in difficulty for men and women in acquiring sex. For the average man getting laid is a challenge, while for the average women it is as simple as lowering one's standards and accepting any one of the continuous barrage of offers for sex many women are subjected to. This makes it a case of Truth in Television.

Because...okay, seriously? I don't consider myself a rabid feminist, but I can't help but be insulted by a claim that somehow the "men sleeping around while women stay faithful" ideal totally follows from the idea of women having more oppertunities for casual sex than men. people. No Just No.

blackcat moved the page quote here because there was no quote source, it would be a little less flamebait-ish with an identifiable source.

"I just had an argument with a girl I know. She was saying how it's unfair that if a guy fucks a different girl every week, he's a legend, but if a girl fucks just two guys in a year, she's a slut. So in response I told her that if a key opens lots of locks, then it's a master key. But if a lock is opened by lots of keys, then it's a shitty lock. That shut her up."

T-Jack: I'm sorry if I offended anbody by adding the quote. I just added it because I thought it was funny and portrayed the trope perfectly. Anyhoo, a little research yielded these results: a Bash quote, a blogger's response to a Facebook post (though I am unable to find the post in question) and a demotivational. From what I found, the Facebook post is probably the original sauce, but until said post is found, this is just my theory. UPDATE: The two earliest mentions of the quote on Facebook are this one and the one in here. They were both posted on 15th November 2009, almost three hours apart. Note that the second one specifically mentions the Bash quote I linked to. I see two possible scenarios: Either the Bash quote came first, or it went through this route: First Facebook post -> some IRC conversation -> -> -> Second Facebook post. Unfortunately, because Bash doesn't store info about when a quote was submitted and I don't know how works, I can't say which ruote is more probable.

Whoa, that's a lot of rambling. Remember, I only did this so that the quote may be featured here.