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Working Title: Silly Monsters, FIre is for Mortals: From YKTTW

This troper thinks that the Team Fortress 2 example has got to be one of the funniest things she's ever seen. Kudos to whoever wrote that one.

Large Blunt Object: The old image sucked. Replacing it.

Man Without A Body: I liked the old image better. Then again, maybe it was a bit spoileriffic for people who hadn't seen The Thing yet.

Raekuul: But... but the new one has Fanservice! Erm, here's a conversation involving killing a Dungeons & Dragons 3.5 Elder Fire Elemental with fire:

Large Blunt Object: Seriously? I couldn't even tell there was fire in the old image without knowing the page title. It looked like a baby with a couple of yellow twigs stuck in it. The new one is, unmistakeably, something being killed with fire.

Hremsfeld: On the other hand...

Clarabell: I've moved this exchange on defeating the aliens in Evolution to the discussion page; I have a correction to add, too:

... Instead, the day is saved with dandruff shampoo, for reasons that would be laughable to anyone who heard the word "valence" in high school.
  • Or, at least, anyone who knows the difference between a compound and a mixture (consuming sodium and chlorine is NOT the same as consuming sodium chloride!)

Yes, elements' properties are changed when they form compounds, but as arsenic oxides are toxic to humans, it stands to reason that most selenium compounds would be toxic to them (they're even toxic to humans, btw). Additionally, is there a reason it's not just the element selenium in the shampoo? It's not toxic to humans in small quantities. In fact, the bioavailability is probably the real issue. Hey, even if they used a less bioavailable form, it's very possible they had a great enough quantity to achieve the desired effect.

E325: I found the theory behind the discovery itself to be rather laughable, personally. I think it's a moot point.

Goldfritha: Because of "These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone." and "And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever." and more show that this below is incorrect, I am cutting this section:

  • Actually the popular perception of hell being a hot place was from Dante's Inferno. The Bible never mentions the Fire and Brimstone Hell. (And intriguingly enough, the ninth circle of hell in the Inferno was an incredibly COLD place. Blame it on Flanderization. Most people never read that far.)
  • Inferno actually got it from the Talmud, which had likened Hell to the valley of Gehinom, a place outside Jerusalem where trash and heretics and such was burned with sulphur (aka brimstone). The depiction stuck.

I took this out because it's not true:

  • The Clockwork robots in City of Heroes have a surprising weakness to fire. This is because they are not real robots, but are instead animated telekinetically by the Clockwork King, who has a phobia towards fire.

The Clockwork are no more weak against fire than to most other types of damage, except lethal which they resist. The "secret weakness" hinted at by the Loading Screen tip is psionic damage, which apparently interferes with the Clockwork King's control.