Archived Discussion

This is discussion archived from a time before the current discussion method was installed.

Zozma: I felt the Phantom Dust example assumed too much from an ambiguous ending and conflicted with a few of the facts the story lays out. Instead of treading on any toes by deleting, though, I merely provided an alternate explanation beneath the current one.

Semiapies: Any of these examples count as, well, spoilers in anyone else's mind? :)

Nerem: I'm editting the Ideon part because the series makes pretty clear that only a solar system was wiped out, as it shows the extremes of the explosion.

Susan Davis: The series, sure... but have you seen Be Invoked? The universe is destroyed, and the souls of the cast are shown witnessing the birth of a new universe to replace it, and speculate about being reborn into it.

William Wide Web: What does the last sentence of the Evangelion example even mean? More specifically, what is the antecedent of "they" and why is that a subversion?

Wait, nevermind, it's "not (dreaming goo)" rather than "(not dreaming) goo". Okay, it all makes sense now. I'm gonna clean up that sentence.

The Defenestrator: I just saw The Departed. At the end, my cousin started shouting "why? why kill him?" every time a character was shot in the head.

Corned Bee: About the Harry Potter entry: about a dozen named characters die in Deathly Hollows (add one if you count the owl). While it is true that this is more than all other books combined (6 characters, counting Lily and James), given the size of the cast, I don't think this really qualifies as a Rocks Fall, Everyone Dies scenario.

  • In fact, there's an anomymous quote summarizing the work of Shakespeare as "Shakespeare's tragedies: They all die. Shakespeare's comedies: Half of them die, and the other half crossdress."

HeartBurn Kid: Funny, I heard this one a bit differently when I was in junior high and we took a field trip to see a production of Twelfth Night in a park. The way they told it to us is that "In Shakespeare's tragedies, everybody dies. In Shakespeare's comedies, everybody gets married."

Solitaire: The Yugioh GX example turned out to be a Battle Royale With Cheese. I'm removing it from the list.

Earwig: The film Battle Royale certainly merits being listed under either this or Anyone Can Die... but which? In case you're unfamiliar with it, the film introduces us to more than 40 students forcibly pitted against each other in a battle to the death, and almost everyone is dead by the end.

Uknown Troper: Removing Elfen Lied — noone in the main cast actually died. Including Lucy.
Large Blunt Object: Removing the image because it sucks, doesn't illustrate the trope at all unless you know who it is and is reaching even then.
Premium Irritation: Survival of the Fittest has been re-added since it was deleted for no apparent reason. In a RP that by the end of the first 'Season' had 122 out of approximately 140 named characters dead (only one of those survivors being an actual student), you can't really argue it doesn't belong in this trope.

Shockz: I just know someone's going to disagree with my edit on the Evangelion example, but, well, I stated my reasons for considering it a subversion. I did see the "torrent of natter" comment, and I tried to make my edit as clear (and as in-line with canon and Word of God) as possible to prevent this.
Lord Seth: I'm dubious about the Romeo and Juliet example. Yes, a lot of people die—Mercutio, Tybalt, Paris, Romeo, and Juliet. But the prince, Laurence, and the parents of Romeo and Juliet stay alive. Sure, a lot of people die, but I think enough are still around that this trope doesn't apply.
Furi Kuri: Un-spoiler-tagged Cloverfield, mainly because it was just the title of the movie with nothing more, meaning that there was no way to know what it was unless you highlighted it, which removes the purpose of a spoiler tag. Not to mention every other entry is un-spoilered, don't know why it was considered special.
The Tambourine Man: Ramoved the entry for Team Fortress 2;
  • The Sniper from Team Fortress 2, in his Meet the Team video, claims that "professionals [should] have a plan to kill everyone you meet".
Since it wasn't an example of this trope. At all.