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7-of-Diamonds: Would Harry's line to Umbridge in the Order of the Phoenix movie count for this?

Umptyscope: How about from A Christmas Carol? "Are there no prisons? No work-houses?"

Looney Toons: 7, yes, it would. Nice catch.

Kilyle: I like the further line from A Christmas Carol: "Well, if he is going to die, he had better do it, and decrease the surplus population." Later said back to Scrooge when he expresses concern for Tiny Tim. Or maybe that's just in the Muppet version?

Daibhid C: Nope, it's in the book:
"If these shadows remain unaltered by the Future, none other of my race," returned the Ghost, "will find him here. What then? If he be like to die, he had better do it, and decrease the surplus population."

Scrooge hung his head to hear his own words quoted by the Spirit, and was overcome with penitence and grief.

Ezekiel: Disgaea has an example of this or a subtrope when Laharl justifies bossing the Prinny Squad around by telling her, "Your vassals are my vassals", which she later uses to make him pay their salaries... would that be Exact Words?
Shire Nomad: Pulled the Frasier case. Doesn't count if we didn't hear the line used the first time... besides, Martin was probably joking.

Demetrios: I don't know, when you put together Maris's bizarre maladies, he might not have been joking.

Shire Nomad: Even so, I doubt Niles actually used the same phrasing the first time.

Demetrios: Yeah, I guess you're right. Besides, we find out in a later episode that Maris isn't really "so white she's almost blue". She's more like "so white she's a mere inch from death by ultraviolet radiation". Or at least a very, very bad sunburn. XP

Grev: Pulled:

  • Not to mention Serenity's "Boy, sure would be nice if we had some grenades, don't you think?!".

Since the line was only said once. It was an ironic situation, where grenades would've helped and were explicitly denied earlier, but it's not an echo.

Danel: Pulled:
  • In Buffy's fourth season, Faith has been given a device that will allow her to switch bodies with someone else. She goes to Buffy's house in search of revenge. After the ensuing fight is broken up someone asks Buffy if she's all right, and she smiles: "I'm five by five." This, being Faith's catchphrase, lets the viewer know that she used the device.

Since I can't see how it's an example of this trope. Oddly enough however, seeing it reminded me of a fantastic example from the next episode.

Shire Nomad: Looks like this was attached to something earlier that was later deleted. If it was meant to be attached to Aladdin, on the other hand... then, well, I don't know what it's referring to.
  • Even down to to ironic echoes in the mise en scène. Literally every scene has at least one cross reference to another part of the film.

Doctor Lombriz: I'm nitpicking to the I thought the cause of the Ironic Echo, but I thought the Christmas Story example was where Ralphie was unprepared for the recoil of the rifle, thumping him in the face and breaking his glasses, and that made him think he had shot his eye out, not BB recoil.

Wouls the poem Ozymandias count as an ironic echo?
Won Sab: Isn't there a third common manifestation of this trope where a relatively benign phrase is echoed maliciously?