Archived Discussion

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Ununnilium: So... what is this, exactly? I don't quite get the concept you're referring to through the tongue-in-cheek description.

Kilyle: I see something in this, but it really has to be fleshed out.

If I'm reading that right, it's like, whatever they're cranking out now is whatever was hot two or three years ago. Horror film involving fairytale characters or animals? Volcano destroys major city? Meteor(s) hit Earth? Ice age? Flood age? Pirates? Gentleman Thief? Super-powered Ditz? The derivative film will have similar cast, setting, and plot, and lack anything significantly new or exciting, but the theory behind it is that people will pay to see it because they've already forgotten the original film. (Or, more likely, the original "rush" has worn off and they're willing to take anything they can get.)

They do it with comics too, only with a slightly longer timeframe, since the readers have presumably grown up and moved on by that time. I think we already have a trope about that, so either this article points out any relative distinction, or the two get merged.

I actually do like the name Nohamotyo, and the reasoning for the name, but is TV Tropes the first place this word has appeared?

Your Obedient Serpent notes that the examples have hit the original intent pretty much dead-on: people missing out on pop-culture allusions that were everywhere just a couple of years ago, people reacting to something as if it were Fresh And New when it's really a retread; franchise owners feeling they can recycle plots with impunity because the audience has either turned over or has no long-term attention span. The term didn't originate here, exactly, but the Wikipedia entry wasn't "sufficiently notable". It was coined by a crony of mine who designs tabletop RPGs.

Shale: Removed the Haruhi example for being completely and totally unrelated to the trope.

Tree: I think this trope might be referring to a 'cooling period' of sorts, after which an idea has left the population's immediate memory, and can safely be recycled. It's not very clear though, and needs not only fleshing out but clarification too, me thinks.

Scud East: Removed the following:
  • When The Rocketeer hit the big screens in 1991, one reviewer smugly reminded readers that the idea of a rocket pack was "nothing new", since, after all, James Bond had used one in Thunderball in 1965. The reviewer seemed oblivious to the fact that the concept had been around in fiction and cinema long before then, and, in fact, the real-life jet pack that Bond used was a deliberate attempt to make those Sci-Fi concepts real.
This is a longer time horizon than this article contemplates, and there's already a paragraph on the Thunderball misconception in Older Than They Think, which is where it belongs.
  • Your Obedient Serpent both started this page and added the entry above — in fact, it was foremost in my mind when I put the page up in the first place. Despite that — yeah, you're right. It's Older Than They Think. Nohamotyo does suggest a much shorter timeframe.

  • I think maybe this should be renamed.... It's a bit of an obscure term.