This is discussion archived from a time before the current discussion method was installed.
Steel Beast 6 Beets: What's the point of the opening quote? Wasn't the guy who writes Zero Punctuation aware that Umbrella Corporation does have a few public products such as pharmaceutical drugs and computers or is that too much to ask for a poor man's Maddox who's popular because Viewers Are Morons?
Mega Lan: The point is that Umbrella could focus on their good points, instead they decide to go ahead and spend their R&D on supersoldier programs that kill everything in sight. On top of that, even outside of the context of the review, it's perfect.
Big T: If you don't even know the name of the guy, you don't really have any right commenting on him, as you've obviously never actually seen his work. His name is everywhere. (Not to mention you couldn't be bothered to click on a link?)
Geese: The opening quote neatly summarizes the trope, just like it's supposed to. A villain or group of villains can have some legitimate enterprises and still exude the idea "our villainous endeavors are a gigantic waste of time, money and talent, but somehow we feel they're the most important things we do."
Steel Beast 6 Beets: It's not like I don't know about about Mr. Croshaw, I just couldn't bring myself to care about a "writer" (see how I loosely use this term) who does nothing but a poor job ripping off Maddox, the original angry bastard, while failing miserably in the process and whose fans present a collective I.Q lower than the temperature of my freezer as demostrated several times in this wiki.
But, since I'm aware that 99% of the wiki disagrees with me, to continue with this discussion seems to be pretty much pointless. Ah well.
Geese: You're more than welcome to your vitriol, but there's a difference between "I don't like this guy" and "I start arguments about the applicability of a quote based on the fact that I don't like him, rather than whether or not the quote is applicable." I'm terribly sorry that seeing him all over this wiki gets your panties in a twist, but if you have a point to make, don't dilute it with "Yahtzee sucks and the people who like him are all stupid." Unless that's your point, in which case start a thread about it or something.
Oh and, Accentuate the Negative is about as [[old as civilization itself Older Than They Think]]. It's pretty hilarious to hear Maddox described as the "original" angry bastard.
Big T: I'd never even heard of Maddox until you mentioned him. Guess I've found a new guy to enjoy, too.
Deadpool Fan: Alright, continuing this discussion, as you can see, someone has removed the quote of Mr. Croshaw. Now, while I may no longer enjoy his reviews as much as I did before, I believe that that quote perfectly illustatrated this trope. The reason it was removed however made no sense.
"reason: He's a game reviewer."
What does that have to do with anything? I've seen quotes from all kinds of places on these pages. How does that, at all, even remotely count as a legitimate reason to remove something? Thats like me removing a quote from a page said by Homer Simpson and saying "Its from the Simpsons!"
I believe the quote should be placed back. I'd put it back myself, but as you know, 99 percent of the wiki doesn't want a fight, so not wanting to get involved in a flame war I leave the quote here and await a better explanation as to why it was removed.
- Do you remember what the villains from Captain Planet were like, how they'd steal an oil tanker and deliberately run smack into a beach to teach the sea lions a lesson in complacency? Do you remember wondering why they didn't just sell the oil at huge profits and not have to get beaten up by a big blue man in little red pants?
-Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw
HeartBurn Kid: I agree it fits, and I'm feeling bold enough to put it back. Especially since, after 4 days, nobody's come forward to defend its removal.
Ununnilium: May I just say I loved JLA: Welcome To The Working Week? A nice encapsulation of the Morrison JLA, despite not being written by him. </wank>
Lale: Could this qualify as Truth in Television? A lot of the criminals I've read about and seen on Court TV shows like Masterminds would definitely have been better off using their genius to make money the legal way.
- Nobodymuch Honestly, most of them could not have made all that much money legally. For example the forgers mentioned in the article all were failures as legitimate artists first.
TJ Devil 02: About Mister Freeze's gun: he mentions in his movie appearance (and yes, Dis Continuity may apply) that anyone blasted by it has mere minutes to thaw out or die from hypothermia/suffocation. Something tells me he'd never get the federal grant because of this...
HeartBurn Kid: And in Batman The Animated Series, he actually was a top cryogenicist before the Freak Lab Accident that turned him into Mr. Freeze. He then used the incredible knowledge of cryogenics he possessed to develop the Freeze Gun specifically to take revenge.
Echo_Hotel: Don't forget that he had his funding cut and had to steal to finish his devices.
Randallw: in a recent copy of Heroes for Hire, Paladin is fighting in a super villain museum and grabs a gun and fires. It turns his opponent's weapon into gold. As he quips, a villain made a weapon that turns things into gold just so he could rob banks? How lame is that.
Peteman: Are we going to bring back the Troy Hurtubise real life subversion? I remember the joke about how the guy essentially built a full bodied suit of armour that could be built at 2000$ a pop, but no one seems interested in funding him, so if he went around robbing banks he could actually crawl out of the bankruptcy and debts he's currently in? Though in all fairness, his "Angel Light" schtick and other displays has probably gotten him dismissed as a loony by more than one person.
Mark Z: Deleted rant about the eeeevil drug companies and how they're sitting on a cure for AIDS. Go start a blog if you want to post this kind of thing.
Rann: Hm. Just a thought, but where on this page would some attention be called to examples of characters who are brilliant scientists, but no one's going to take them seriously because of some unchangeable physical trait (thus possibly justifying a turn to crime)? I mean, at the end of the day, even if Dr. Drakken settled himself down to some brilliant scientific inventing (unlikely, but hey), he's still blue.
Operator: For consideration in Video Games, the Big Bad Corporation (Horzine) from the game 'Killing Floor' was designing and cloning nasty critters in the basement while working on new generation combat armour for the British MOD. This is where the player steps in to discover that it ain't just waves of freaky shit he's got to deal with, but the original scientist as well, who turned REALLY nasty (a la House of the Dead, Resident Evil, etc.) Imagine the average glasses-wearing lab-geek, but about 8' tall, with a arm that has a chain-gun/rocket launcher combo (which is fair game for Coll but Impractical), and some freaky tentacle-thing in his chest, which can nearly instagib an armoured player at close range.
Oh, and he'll turn invisible and run off to heal himself, if you hurt him enough.
Under video games, there is example: "Shu Shirakawa" Please elaborate.
