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Digamma: Just cleaning up this entry a little; merging sub-bullets into the original and such.
  • Clarified somewhat in the main description and cut this sub-bullet; hope that's better.
    ** The word fairy does not apply to anything found within the Celtic Mythologies.
  • Cut the bit about 'aka fairyland' and tried to define the Otherworld a bit better.
    ** It is not "aka" fairyland. There are no mythological examples of this turn of phrase.
  • I'm curious if anyone knows anything more about the claim about the "oldest of gods known to humanity," since I'm not sure.
    *Expy: Irish (and Welsh, though we have less surviving records of their stories) mythology is one of the very few sources we have that can inform us about the oldest of gods known to humanity, and it is through them that we can trace nearly any European god back to a common deity. The first to take note of this was none other than Julius Caesar, who in his notes referred to Lugh as a "Gaulish Mercury."
    ** The oldest gods known to humanity would be the mesopotamian Gods. Not the Irish Gods. This is a pretty good example of the EncyclopediaBrowned phenomenon.
  • Cut this bit, since other bullets already make those points.
    ***She's not a malevolent being, more like Loki than anything else really.
    ***The morrigan is not a she. It's a title. It does not refer to the same Goddess throughout the stories. It, quite explicitly, refers to different ones at different times.
  • Merged this into one bullet.
    ** It's pretty well established that St. Brigid (the "second patron saint of Ireland") was not a historical figure but a Christian version of the Celtic goddess.
    *** No, it's pretty well established that St. Brigid existed and that some of the actions attributed to her come from Irish mythology.
  • Cut this bullet, since it doesn't seem to actually contribute anything and when I looked up the suggestion of a connection between Lugh and Loki I did find mentions of it, so it's not just a personal opinion.
    ** who are the "some" that it is "thought by" and have they any academic basis to stand on, or is it just personal opinion.
  • Removed this bit for now; the above "God Save Us from the Queen!" mentions that whether any Celtic deities are triple goddesses or triads of goddesses may vary on sources — anyone know for sure? If the sub-bullet is right, the mentions of triple goddesses can be removed.
    ** there is no such thing as a Celtic Triple Goddess.
So if anyone has any issue with this, just say so.