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Working Title: Uh... Internet?: From YKTTW

Gracie Lizzie: Removed the Jake Long thing because (as I said in the YKTTW) that is a birthmark. She's not lying. Those born with it are stolen from their families by the Huntsclan.

Clockworkchaos:Removed this felt like discussion (this was originally following the Dnd bard example)

  • An ability of course frequently nerfed because an epic level bard who can flawlessly convince a 3rd level guard that indeed the party is composed of wandering demigods is so much less believable than the fact that the epic level fighter has no chance of missing the same guard with his sword strike, or that the epic level thief has no chance of failing sneaking by, or...

Furthermore if someone does want to put it back in, keep in mind that the ability isn't problematic because of what they can do to a 3rd level guard, but because it is can to that to a 20th level guard, or a god with about equal ease


JP 4490: Cutting these top quotes:

"Why must you turn my office into a house of LIES?"
Dr. Wolfe, "Last Exit to Springfield", The Simpsons

"You are telling LIES!

"Oh, and by the way, do you call those cheap implants boobs? They're not boobs, they're LIES!
Stewie Griffin, "I Take Thee Quagmire"

Sorry if I'm ruining someone's joke here or something, but I don't see what these have got to do with the trope in the description. The only real connection is the word "LIES" in the title, and as funny as those lines are, that alone doesn't make them fit.


Haven: Took this out, because, well, not to explain the joke, but I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm by way of taking the question more literally than it was intended (Jack meant it in the sense of "at a time like this"). Also, why is this all spoilered?

  • When pressed, he latter admitted that "the box was a metaphor." A better example of him using Blatant Lies is When he and the Ocean Six are in a plane that they know is going to crash and return them to the Island. Jack sees Ben sitting there, calmly reading a book. He asks Ben, "How can you read?" Ben's answer: "My mother taught me." Delivered completely deadpan, and a total lie, since his mother died giving birth to him, which had already been revealed.

Discar: I don't understand what problem you have with this. The original example is simply not a good use of this trope (since, again, the box was always meant to be a metaphor, and he never tried to hide that), but the second example is Blatant Lies—so why was it removed?


Discar: Temporarily removed a page quote:

"You lie!"
Mr. Freeze, Batman & Robin

What's the relevance of this, exactly? I really don't see why it should be up there.

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