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adam850: I'd like to add this image to the top:
GAU-8 Avenger
◊. That's a BFG.
SAMAS: Considering that the trope is specifically for a weapon held by a person, I don't think it fits.
Also, I thought that big thing on Vulcan Raven's back was an ammo drum, not a battery.
Citizen: Needs a picture of the titular BFG, will consider looking for one later.
Tyr_God_Of_War: In halo 3 you can rip a machine gun of a truck and use it as a BFG.
Meta4: How about this◊ for the picture? I realize the current picture◊ is of the Trope Namer, but it's not at a good angle to really see how friggin' big it is.
Amake: Elisabeth Swann in Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End pulls out a massive gun from somewhere in her neither regions; does it count as a BFG? Marty the Dwarf I believe flies away from the recoil when he fires it.
Large Blunt Object: How massive is massive? Also, if it's a pistol, those come under Really Big Gun
Evilest_Tim: Much as the trope is about handheld weapons, I don't think the Clonetrooper image really gets the 'ludicrously huge' idea over. Hence, replaced it perhaps the most ridiculous image of compensatory silliness. And before anyone complains it's NSFW or similar, it's a real piece of equipment used by the German military.
Dragon Quest Z: When the trope is specific, the picture should be as well, or it's inviting misuse. I reverted the picture, especially since those guns are the same size as the Trope Namer.
HeartBurn Kid: Cut this from the
Hellboy 2 example:
- He was carrying a baby around, you idiot!
Because it's 1) Natter, 2) a flame, and 3) completely ignorant of the fact that the line in question was meant to have a double meaning (referring to both the actual baby and the Big Baby). In fact, the trailer pretty much shows the Big Baby meaning exclusively (I know, we should Never Trust a Trailer, but...)
Vampire Buddha: Took out some
natter and bad examples:
Stuff
- Actually, Fortune's railgun weights, IIRC, "only" 20 kilograms (44 pounds) and Fortune carries it with a carrying belt. Sanke, on the other hand, carries it with only his hands.
- This troper can't resist saying that the scene where Snake hoists up the railgun just before defending Raiden from the Suicide Gekkos in the shadow moses hanger was one of the most satisfying he has ever seen.
- This troper disagrees - instead preferring the Holland & Holland double-barrelled Elephant Gun. If not properly braced, firing this gun will knock you on your ass.
- Towards the end? In 4, you can carry one around with you at a time as long as you can afford it starting fairly early in the game - how many people got past their first El Gigante that way?
- Not to mention its an INFINITE ROCKET LAUNCHER.
- There are somewhat lesser examples throughout the series. Barry Burton's magnum is roughly half the size of his arm and grenade launchers come in handy when you have the ammunition for them. Though apparently they're somehow a pain to try using against Goddamn Bats, if the way Jill acquires one in 1 is to be believed.
- RE 4 has several BF Gs including the IFR mentioned above, the Chicago Typewriter, and the PRL (Plagas Removal Laser), the last of which will instantly kill every Ganados, monk, or soldier in the area, and is TOTALLY FREE.
- You don't want to get close to either of them. 540dps in a game where the most health one can get is mere 450HP if it's another Heavy overhealed by a Medic.The slaughter part kicks in the moment you remember that the total average amount of HP in the game is 150. Genocide ensues.
- And when the Kritzkrieg is activated...
- The "10,000 rounds per minute" spec given in "Meet the Heavy" is incorrect - in the actual game it's "only" 2,400 rounds per minute. Still pretty devastating.
- It wasn't always shoulder-mounted. In the original Unreal Tournament, it was hand-carried like a rifle with no stock, and came with two shots. In UT2003 and UT2004, it was cut to a single shot, but was still hand-carried. Only in UT 3 did it become shoulder-mounted.
- Hell, the smallest weapon in UT 3 is the size of a film camera.
- Don't forget the scarabs. Those things are BF Gs on steriods from hell.
- Which is why it's Awesome, but Impractical. Most Big Guns in FO 2&3 are. In Fallout 2 because they chew ammo for less damage than alternatives and have a high tendency to friendly fire, critically. In Fallout 3 because they chew ammo for less damage per ammo and AP, slow firing, reloading, draw and holster. However, blasting a Vertibird out of the sky with a Laser Gatling is as satisfying as a pantsload of grenades.
- Not that it matters too much, since Tetsuo had shown in an earlier scene to be able to create a psychic barrier that the lasers bend around and not hit him. Of course, he never bothered to use it when Kaneda had the gun, possibly because using the barrier appeared to require a lot of concentration.
- When combined with their Special Skill anyway, still, when used solely by Celestial Power it's was one-foot caliber, the size of a Gundam class bazooka....
- Unfortunately, being such a powerful tool of destruction, it has the side effect to turn allready short tempered spirits into unstopable mindless machines of hate and death.
- The latter of which is made all the more awesome by the fact that Maito Senpuuji, the pilot of the mecha, has the same voice actor as Cyborg Guy. And yes, the requisite levels of Hot-Blooded are present.
- I want a FPS with those guns. A good one.
- It wouldn't have been for a regular Graboid. How was Burt supposed to know they'd split into the annoying little Shriekers? Still, that little bastard he shot it with was owned.
- Can it really be considered inaccurate? I mean, it'll hit what it's aiming at; it's just that it'll hit pretty much everything around what you're aiming for as well (and occasionally things directly above the person firing it).
- Ok, How about Indiscriminately accurate?
- "FYT" refers to the suit - one that will take any punishment the wearer risks facing. Not the Micro Armaments System Rifle with its "ten separate weapon systems, not including the semi-sentient guard facility, the reactive shield components, the IFF-set quick-reaction swing-packs or the AG unit, and before you ask, the controls are all on the wrong side because that's the left-hand bias version, and the balance - like the weight and the independently variable inertia - are fully adjustable. It also takes about half a year's training just to learn how to use it safely, let alone competently, so you can't have one."
- For those on the Imperial measurement system, nine meters is not too far shy of thirty feet. X-Wings are small ships, but they're still spaceships. Two meters is still six feet.
- Subverted in Ian M. Banks Consider Phlebas. An Idiran (a race of giant religious-fanatic aliens) laughs when confronted by Special Circumstances agent Pertosteck Balveda wielding a tiny transparent firearm. The Idiran moves to kill her, whereupon the gun emits a faint coughing noise and blows him in half.
- Subverted in the Roald Dahl book, "The BFG." It turns out that the BFG is in fact a Big...Friendly Giant. (To add insult to injury, it turns out that he's only half as tall as the other, mean giants.)
- Note that one of the Jagermonsters gets a quick lesson in physics when the recoil from the Klenk Gon sends him into a wall.
- To elaborate, Space Marine Bolters are 0.75 calibre assault rifles that can be fired full auto. The bolts themselves are jet assisted, giving them very long ranges and some versions have homing capability, and they are 'mass reactive', i.e, if they detect they have connected with a body, they will explode. In the body. And then the are the specialised round, most notably bolts with fissionable cores that basibly gives the wielder a clip of 30 tactical nukes that can be fired full auto and 'Hellfire' rounds that contain nanotech enhance acids that will destroy you at the cellular level. In 40k, these weapons are Religious Symbols, entire worlds have surrendered when they saw a force armed with Bolters. The game says it best -
If there is a weapon that defines the Imperium, it is the bolter. No other weapon combines high technology levels with such delibrate brutality, and no other species would consider making it but mankind.
- Its worth pointing out that the humble lasgun, considered one of the weakest weapons in the setting, is capable of blowing apart an unarmored human's head, limbs, or torso, as well as punch through several meters of concrete.
- "Several meters" is stretching it a little, unless it is the sniper variant "Longlas" rifle firing overloaded "hot-shot" charges.
- The Longlas can fire laser bursts of upto 19 megajoules of energy and even if the regular guns fire half of that, it still makes for a powerful gun.
- According to DW writings, the Special Weapons Daleks are said to be even nuttier and more homicidal than your garden variety Dalek due to exposure to the BFG's radiation output. Which makes them rolling (and possibly levitating) Daleks of Mass Destruction.
- Vera. Just Vera.
- REALLY big? Are you kidding me? It was no bigger than an assault rifle!
- The above troper is correct. It was just an ordinary phaser rifle. Now, Star Trek Insurrection has Worf wielding some kind of energy rocket launcher. That was a big gun.
Sinister Teddybear: The mention of TNA in the opening paragraph is mine. If someone feels it doesn't belong it can be removed, but for a certain subset that's what comes to mind when you hear the letters BFG. Just thought I'd let you know I wasn't a spambot.
Major Tom: Is the new pic that of the 14.5x144mm KPV heavy machine gun with a scope?
Evilest_Tim: Naw, it's a 12.7, either an NSV or a Kord.
◊. That's a BFG.
◊ for the picture? I realize the current picture
◊ is of the Trope Namer, but it's not at a good angle to really see how friggin' big it is.
