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Working Title: Ah But Thats Different: From YKTTW

Meta4: Cut the following, because it just repeats information that appears earlier on the page:

  • The premise of Robert Asprin's Myth Adventures is that there exist a potentially-infinite panoply of inhabited "dimensions", and that a "demon" is anyone not currently in their home dimension. In one book, the character Aahz — despite being a demon and former magician, mentor to an increasingly skillful younger magician from another dimension, and going into battle alongside a gargoyle with a pet salamander (of the fire-making sort), a troll (and his sister, a trollop), and a couple of imps — refuses to believe that there is such a thing as a Gremlin.

Allandrel: When has Batman ever claimed to be an atheist?

Grimace: To my knowledge, he hasn't. He's a skeptic, sure, but has never said he disbelieves in god or the like. Probably too busy trying not to die etc to give it much thought. One quote (from Batman Beyond) that I think sums it up nicely:
Bruce: These people believe anything they can't explain is magic.
Terry: Naturally, you don't believe in that kind of thing.
Bruce: Of course, I do. I've seen it all. Demons, witch boys, immortals, zombies. But this thing ... I don't know. It just feels so ... high school.

Not atheism, exactly, but same idea. Anyone with a bit more Bat-knowledge wanna help out?

Austin: I've heard that writers are inconsistent as to Batman's religious beliefs. Not surprising, given that the only thing consistent about him is that he doesn't kill.

Count Dorku: Not true! He has dead parents and runs around dressed as a flying rat. That's always consistent!
Looney Toons: Removed this new entry:

  • In The Princess Bride, Westley and Buttercup have just been reunited after he was presumed dead, and escaped two of the three deadly dangers of the Fire Swamp (Flame Spurts and Lightning Sand). Buttercup asks about the third the ROUSs. Westley's reply "Rodents Of Unusual Size? I don't think they exist." He is immediately attacked by one.

because he is not being skeptical, he's trying to keep Buttercup calm. As he says this, he is staring over her shoulders at two ROUSs in the trees behind her.

Austin: Though there's not a place to put it in the article, I wanted to add a viewpoint that partially justifies this trope. I think that once something becomes accepted, it ceases to be considered "weird". The best example would be religion. If one takes a step back, many religiond have some pretty weird things in their backgrounds, but millions of people believe them without hesitation. This isn't a slam on religion, I'm just saying that objectively, religion can be pretty weird.

Blork: I think a far more important point is that in many of the examples here, the thing that people do believe in is supported by hard evidence (often to the point that the characters work with it on a daily basis) while the thing that they don't believe in is just Agent Mulder's unsubstantiated claim. That's not Arbitrary Skepticism, it's just skepticism - if Bigfoot is known to exist that is not supporting evidence for vampires.

Austin: That's true, but this trope is also characterized not just skepticism, but outright refusal to consider the possibility that something else weird might exist. It seems rare for a character to be both skeptical, but open to the possibility.
Fast Eddie: Zapped/moved opening quotes. Please see Administrative Policy.
Larry D: cut the following, because it's under the wrong media category, and half of it is duplicated in the right category.

  • On Girl Genius, in a world of mad science gone madder, the resident talking cat does invoke this the first time he talks to the main character. Later on, he tries to wig people out in the same fashion, only to be told that they've seen plenty stranger.

Shini: Anyone notice that Vampires seem to be a popular target in this trope?

Jonn: I made this edit.

  • Occasionally used by particularly bad fanboys. This troper once listened to a They Changed It, Now It Sucks Halo 1 fanboy (Self-confessed, after I linked him to the page) claim it was unrealistic that a seven-foot tall cyborg who weighs a ton could have his aim forced upward by a sub-machine gun's recoil. This is from a video game series that is named after a galaxy-destroying superweapon designed to kill alien zombies.

It was deleted by washington213 with the following reason.

reason: just because aliens doesn't equate no physics

My point was that this is a semi-soft science fiction game that involves, again, alien zombies. The SMG going upward is a gameplay balancing measure, and one of the less questionable aspects of the series. Remember, the pistol from Halo 1 also had noticeable recoil. Per shot, it was actually more than the SMG. It's just that it's harder to compensate your aim for automatic fire than semi-auto.