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As seen in the Do we have a project to disambig works? Ask The Tropers, there are many works pages that seem to need disambigs, by virtue of sharing names and having no differentiation.

This thread is for the discussion and listing of what to do about such pages.

See here for a list of needed disambigs.

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  • Then there is pages like The Host which is for the Korean film but has a bunch of wicks referring to the adaptation of The Host.

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Edited by Twiddler on Oct 27th 2023 at 2:10:56 AM

Primis Since: Nov, 2010
#51: Mar 25th 2020 at 7:39:08 PM

I'm not opposed to it, I just don't think it's necessary. The very fact that they're episode names means the odds of them being confused with another work is incredibly low.

Like, with Home (Rivers) and HOME (2013), both are indie horror games with a pixellated art style, released within a year of each other. I could see people getting confused about those two, but I can't imagine anyone getting an episode of Battlestar Galactica (2003) confused with an episode of Revolution, for instance. You immediately think of the show name before the episode name.

Edited by Primis on Mar 25th 2020 at 7:42:11 AM

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#52: Mar 28th 2020 at 10:12:44 PM

In that specific circumstance, yes. You recognize the series more easily than the episode because the overarching Myth Arc of the series (provided by the similar sets and characters) dominates compared to individual episode plots. It doesn't work for more episodic/anthology works, such as Alfred Hitchcock Presents or Out of the Unknown.

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Primis Since: Nov, 2010
#53: Mar 28th 2020 at 10:51:37 PM

Yeesh, I forgot how many episodes were actually listed here before. I take back not being opposed to it, listing that many just looks bad. The episode list alone is almost twice as long as the rest of the page combined.

The point of disambiguation pages is to clear up misleading wicks, but that's not an issue with episodes because you have to wick the series page, and barely anybody wicks recap pages to begin with. Three of the episodes listed here don't even have recap pages, so those are extra pointless.

And none of the episodes listed here are from anthologies, so that's kinda irrelevant.

jandn2014 Very Spooky from somewhere in Connecticut Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Hiding
Very Spooky
#54: Mar 28th 2020 at 11:35:29 PM

Film.Ad Astra and VisualNovel.Ad Astra have the same name; however, the latter is under development, so while the former can be moved to Film.Ad Astra 2019, what should be done about the latter? Should we do something like Adastra (Echo Project)? (The latter’s name is misspelled anyway— the title is one word, “Adastra”.)

Film.Compliance and Fanfic.Compliance have the same name as well.

Edited by jandn2014 on Mar 28th 2020 at 2:52:46 PM

back lol
crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#55: Mar 29th 2020 at 12:22:47 AM

And none of the episodes listed here are from anthologies, so that's kinda irrelevant.
It's a matter of consistency; we should include television episodes on disambiguations because we are being consistent about including all works with the same name. Including episodes of The Twilight Zone but excluding episodes of Happy Days goes against this principle of consistency.

barely anybody wicks recap pages to begin with.
Which is bad because there's more recap pages than any other namespace. We should not be creating pages in anticipation of other people failing to follow policy. The purpose of the disambiguation is to help people find the work they're looking for, not just fixing internal links. The page shows up from search engines, too.
Wicks to Film.Ad Astra and VisualNovel.Adastra can be formed without showing the same capitalization. It would be nice if the URL was accurate, but I don't see any need to disambiguate either.

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#56: Mar 29th 2020 at 1:02:00 AM

Call "Home" a Stock Episode Title and point it there?

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#57: Mar 31st 2020 at 9:37:45 AM

Series.Merlin is disambig for the two Series...

But, Main.Merlin is disambig for the Series, the Literature, and the Myth.

Redirect the Series to the Main?

Edited by Malady on Mar 31st 2020 at 9:37:58 AM

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bwburke94 Friends forevermore from uǝʌɐǝɥ Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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#58: Mar 31st 2020 at 11:11:26 AM

[up] I'd prefer to cut the Series/, but I can see why some others might want to keep the redirect.

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#59: Mar 31st 2020 at 2:06:03 PM

I'm okay with cutting the page, as long as the wicks are fixed first.

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#60: Mar 31st 2020 at 2:13:07 PM

The only wick for Series.Merlin is now from the Ambiguity Index.

Do what you want, I just want this solved...

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Piterpicher Veteran Editor IV from Poland, for real (Series 2) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#61: Mar 31st 2020 at 2:31:36 PM

I think that Series.Merlin should redirect, rather than be cut. After all, the page that was originally a disambig may still be accidentally linked to and if it was cut, people may not know as easily that it's a disambig to be correct, rather than just some redlink. Also, it could prevent accidental/stupid work page creation (unlike redirects in Main/ which should be cut, people can create such articles freely). In my opinion, Film.Uninvited redirecting to Uninvited was a pretty good choice, may as well do it here.

Edited by Piterpicher on Mar 31st 2020 at 11:34:51 AM

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#62: Apr 11th 2020 at 6:44:35 AM

So, still no consensus with Series.Merlin...


Well, how about Fanfic.Entropy? It's currently a Franchise.Sonic The Hedgehog fic...

There's Fanfic.My Hero Academia Entropy... Which, IIRC isn't how we disambig, usually it's Fanfic.Entropy My Hero Academia...

And then there's the WebAnimation.Entropy...

So, turn Main.Entropy into gathering all 3, moving the Sonic fanfic to Entropy Sonic, and the other to Entropy My Hero Academia, with Fanfic.Entropy redirecting to Main?

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Piterpicher Veteran Editor IV from Poland, for real (Series 2) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#63: Apr 11th 2020 at 7:40:35 AM

Well, you know what I think at least. As for Entropy, that course of action suggested by you is appropriate.

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rjd1922 he/him | Image Pickin' regular from the United States Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#64: Apr 11th 2020 at 1:58:33 PM

WebAnimation.Entropy shouldn't be moved since original works get priority when it comes to disambiguation.

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#65: Apr 11th 2020 at 3:08:32 PM

The Crucible and The Crucible are unrelated and should be split

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#66: Apr 11th 2020 at 3:23:01 PM

[up][up] - Not moving the Web Animation. I was discussing having the Main disambig to it.


[up] - Not a problem. Use section labels for the sub-pages. Maybe use Anchor Text, and have redirects point to them as prep for future disambig plans or something.

Edited by Malady on Apr 11th 2020 at 3:24:42 AM

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RallyBot2 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: I-It's not like I like you, or anything!
#67: Apr 11th 2020 at 4:30:57 PM

[up][up]Don't know much about the film, but its page says that it was released as Silenced in English-speaking territories, so that's the name we should use. Film.Silenced is a redirect, so someone clearly knew about the English name and didn't bother to move the page over.

Edited by RallyBot2 on Apr 11th 2020 at 7:31:09 AM

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#68: Apr 11th 2020 at 4:58:16 PM

I'll append the move to my post on the Locked Pages Thread.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=gsjp7dldjh2dwdelcha2hu17&page=941#23521

Edited by Malady on Apr 11th 2020 at 5:03:02 AM

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jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#69: Apr 13th 2020 at 5:15:34 PM

Series.War Of The Worlds needs moving since there is now Series.War Of The Worlds 2019

there is a franchise page it can be directed to

Edited by jormis29 on Apr 13th 2020 at 10:24:26 PM

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#70: Apr 13th 2020 at 5:46:18 PM

If you have Moves, send them to the Locked Pages thread for approval...

So, what do we call that old Series? 1988, right, since that's its start year?

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Oooh... I see the problem now... This is gonna get annoying...

Edited by Malady on Apr 14th 2020 at 7:39:46 AM

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#71: Apr 24th 2020 at 5:29:39 PM

There's at least two Films named Crash, and at least two books, too...

I was going to request that Film.Crash be moved to Film.Crash 2004, and the original page into this, but then I learned about more things called Crash...

A film titled ''Crash'' may refer to:

* The [[Film/Crash1996 1996 adaptation of a 1973 novel]].
* The [[Film/Crash2004 2004 movie]].

If a direct wick has led you here, please correct the link so that it points to the corresponding article.
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Or maybe make a Main redirect for it?

"Move Literature.Crash to Literature.Crash 1973, and turn the original page into this?"

A work titled ''Crash'' may refer to:

* The [[Literature/Crash1973 1973 novel]].
* The [[1997 novel]].
Etc.

If a direct wick has led you here, please correct the link so that it points to the corresponding article.
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Anyone got other things for a Crash Disambig? Maybe computer crashes or something?

Edited by Malady on Apr 24th 2020 at 5:31:49 AM

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GoldenCityBird from the UK Since: Oct, 2018
#73: Apr 26th 2020 at 4:57:37 AM

Found 3 works that share the name Journey.

Journey may refer to:

  • Journey, an adventure game released in 2012.

  • Journey, a rock band formed in 1973, or their self-titled album.

  • Journey, a young adult fantasy novel series.

Several YMMV subpages seem to overlap between the band and the game.

Edited by GoldenCityBird on Apr 26th 2020 at 1:03:01 PM

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#74: Apr 26th 2020 at 5:33:47 AM

Question: What do we do about disambiguating the many works named "Evil Genius"? We can't put the disambig at Evil Genius because that's a trope page.

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#75: Apr 26th 2020 at 7:04:46 AM

[up] - Actually, we can, we just stick a folder very near the top, ala Dead Air...

Unless you disagree with that style and wanna find another way?

It does react to the Foldercontrol, but when I toggle that, my position on the page doesn't change, so it's fine...

Edited by Malady on Apr 26th 2020 at 7:05:42 AM

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