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This trope is about characters who are obviously going without underwear, and that's it. While the description offers several possible meanings, they're rarely used in examples, off-page (didn't check on page) and that's when the trope is being used correctly at all!

The Vapor Wear Wick Check shows that it's a mess of usage, as well. Examples about characters being barely clothed, examples where characters' lack of undergarments has to be revealed to the audience, and even examples where the supposed to be obvious lack of underwear is actively hidden from the audience are included alongside the usual ZC Es, a typo for Vapor Ware (which this trope is obviously a snowclone of) and correct but meaningless examples. Out of the 57 wicks checked, 19 were correct but lacked any explanation for why they go without (and, per the precedent set by Does Not Like Shoes, there needs to be meaning behind an aspect of their appearance for it to be tropable). Another six offered some explanation, but the use on those pages is all over the place, and two of them are from playing with pages, so not exactly proper examples.

I think disambiguating between Stripperiffic, Going Commando, Theiss Titillation Theory, and potentially other tropes is the best option for this page, unless we can find some meaning to coalesce a trope around, and I'm not sure we can.

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    Talking about a style 1/ 57 
  • (Innocent Fanservice Girl) Darkstalkers:
    • Felicia is always naked outside of a fur bikini. It may be providing the absolute minimum coverage where it counts, but that's her own fur, not clothes. However, Felicia's butt is fully exposed, as some animation frames and some character design sheets show that her fur "panties" only cover her front part. This is a specific type of Japanese fanservice called maebari — the use of tape (or, in this case, fur) to cover up the genital region, a relic from when Japan prohibited the display of such in adult media. Contrast "pasties" from US and Carnaval. The designers are well aware of this too, as Felicia's "Dancing Flash" super move involves a barrage of kicks and scratches to her opponent. At one point, she delivers a high kick that leaves her butt fully exposed to the player. Her right hand just so conveniently drops down to her waist in order to censor it for that split second right before she uses it to scratch again.

    Actually Diamonds In The Buff based on context 1/ 57 
  • (Seductive Mummy) Queen's Blade: Antagonist character Menace is based on this trope, and emphasizes the "Seductive" aspect so much that you can easily be ignorant that she's supposed to be a mummy at all unless you paid attention when her backstory came up. She forgoes any semblance of bandages, sexy or otherwise, and just looks like a voluptuous bronze-skinned beauty running around in jewelry-based Vapor Wear. Her backstory is that she's the last ruler of an Egypt-themed fallen nation called Amara, which was overrun by invaders because Menace was too preoccupied with the pleasures of her lesbian harem to pay attention to ruling, something she deeply regretted when she was captured and thrown into her palace's slave pits to be beaten and raped to death. Brought back from the dead by the Swamp Witch, she's determined to rebuild her fallen nation and her harem, in roughly that order.

    Lack of undergarments has to be revealed 9/ 57 

    Kept from the audience 3/ 57 

    Implied 2/ 57 
  • (Anime.Neon Genesis Evangelion) Vapor Wear: Seeing how Rei strips off all of her undergarments before putting on her plugsuit, it seems to imply that none of the pilots wear underwear while wearing their plugsuits in order to boost their synchronization rating. Asuka probably gets to have her panties on in her period, though.
  • (Characters.American Hustle) Vapor Wear: There's a constant implication that Sydney doesn't wear anything under her dresses. Particularly in the stall sequence.

    Obviously not wearing underwear, no meaning given 19/ 57 

     Used in another example 12/ 57 

    Assumed (?) 1/ 57 

    ZCE 4/ 57 

    Aversion 2/ 57 

    Obviously not wearing underwear, seemingly for a reason 6/ 57 
  • (FinalGirl.Live Action Films Subversions Aversions And Parodies) Maxine in X doesn't just violate every moral rule of slasher movie survival, she does so professionally. She's a literal porn star who habitually uses cocaine and the most scantily-clad female character in the film, spending most of it (when she isn't outright fully nude) wearing overalls with nothing underneath that just barely cover her breasts. The ending also reveals the televangelist we see throughout the film railing against the sins of pornography is her father. She winds up the Sole Survivor who departs the film with a triumphant snort of blow as she drives away, having no doubts or second thoughts about her line of work. Meanwhile, Lorraine, the virginal "church mouse" who does the audio on the porn film that the protagonists are making, is initially presented as Final Girl material, but later decides to star in the film herself (cheating on her boyfriend in the process, while he's filming it) — and sure enough, she's the last of them to die.
  • (PlayingWith.Fidelity Test) Parodied:
    • Alice goes to the bar wearing Vapor Wear as part of her disguise and does everything she can think of to seduce Bob.
  • (PlayingWith.Lingerie Scene Inverted: Vapor Wear - Alice is fully clothed but wears no underwear. Could think of nowhere else to put it
  • (Series.Porridge Vapor Wear: Played for Laughs in "Heartbreak Hotel". When Fletcher's daughter, Ingrid, pays him a visit (in the open-plan visiting room), he is outraged that she's not wearing a bra and all the other prisoners can see it. Next time she visits, she puts a bra on, and just to make sure he knows it, she lifts up her t-shirt to demonstrate. To get a laugh from the audience is a reason, right?
  • (VideoGame.Metal Gear Solid 4 Guns Of The Patriots 1/2) Navel-Deep Neckline:
    • Naomi Hunter also has an unbuttoned blouse and is clearly not wearing a bra. Believe it or not, the lack of a bra turns out to be important, as when you're trying to track Naomi down when she's being carted off by a bunch of soldiers, you find a discarded bra left behind as one of the soldiers' many fake outs. She never bothers to reacquire one later. Stuck it here because it has a gameplay reason
  • (Webcomic.Nineteen Ninety Something) Vaporwear: Denise and Kendra, in true hippie fashion, never wear bras. Though Kendra might've gone back to wearing a bra as she has since decided to give up her hippie lifestyle.

    Discussed 1/ 57 
  • (Funny.Undead Unluck 1/2) The first conversation Nico and Ichico have in the 101st loop mirrors a similar conversation they had in their first meeting the previous loop...where Nico tells her that she should cover up her "unsightly mounds of flesh" and Ichico bluntly replies no. Fuuko panics thinking she's ruined things between the two and apologizes to Mico.

    Misused for Vaporware 1/ 57 
  • (LegFocus.Video Games) The novels indicate that this is what Jim Raynor was thinking about Sarah Kerrigan during the "I finished scouting the area and—you pig!" scene in StarCraft. The player can't actually tell, considering she's a low-detail sprite, but promo shots for the Vaporwear Third-Person Shooter StarCraft: Ghost indicate that Ghost uniforms are practically painted on. Fixed, BTW

    Very little or no clothing 5/ 57 

Edited by GastonRabbit on May 16th 2024 at 6:48:18 AM

Acebrock He/Him from So-Cal Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: My elf kissing days are over
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#1: Apr 21st 2024 at 12:00:29 AM

To-do list:

    Original post 
This trope is about characters who are obviously going without underwear, and that's it. While the description offers several possible meanings, they're rarely used in examples, off-page (didn't check on page) and that's when the trope is being used correctly at all!

The Vapor Wear Wick Check shows that it's a mess of usage, as well. Examples about characters being barely clothed, examples where characters' lack of undergarments has to be revealed to the audience, and even examples where the supposed to be obvious lack of underwear is actively hidden from the audience are included alongside the usual ZC Es, a typo for Vapor Ware (which this trope is obviously a snowclone of) and correct but meaningless examples. Out of the 57 wicks checked, 19 were correct but lacked any explanation for why they go without (and, per the precedent set by Does Not Like Shoes, there needs to be meaning behind an aspect of their appearance for it to be tropable). Another six offered some explanation, but the use on those pages is all over the place, and two of them are from playing with pages, so not exactly proper examples.

I think disambiguating between Stripperiffic, Going Commando, Theiss Titillation Theory, and potentially other tropes is the best option for this page, unless we can find some meaning to coalesce a trope around, and I'm not sure we can.

Wick check:

Links to the page will be Bolded when sinkholed
    open/close all folders 

    Talking about a style 1/ 57 
  • (Innocent Fanservice Girl) Darkstalkers:
    • Felicia is always naked outside of a fur bikini. It may be providing the absolute minimum coverage where it counts, but that's her own fur, not clothes. However, Felicia's butt is fully exposed, as some animation frames and some character design sheets show that her fur "panties" only cover her front part. This is a specific type of Japanese fanservice called maebari — the use of tape (or, in this case, fur) to cover up the genital region, a relic from when Japan prohibited the display of such in adult media. Contrast "pasties" from US and Carnaval. The designers are well aware of this too, as Felicia's "Dancing Flash" super move involves a barrage of kicks and scratches to her opponent. At one point, she delivers a high kick that leaves her butt fully exposed to the player. Her right hand just so conveniently drops down to her waist in order to censor it for that split second right before she uses it to scratch again.

    Actually Diamonds In The Buff based on context 1/ 57 
  • (Seductive Mummy) Queen's Blade: Antagonist character Menace is based on this trope, and emphasizes the "Seductive" aspect so much that you can easily be ignorant that she's supposed to be a mummy at all unless you paid attention when her backstory came up. She forgoes any semblance of bandages, sexy or otherwise, and just looks like a voluptuous bronze-skinned beauty running around in jewelry-based Vapor Wear. Her backstory is that she's the last ruler of an Egypt-themed fallen nation called Amara, which was overrun by invaders because Menace was too preoccupied with the pleasures of her lesbian harem to pay attention to ruling, something she deeply regretted when she was captured and thrown into her palace's slave pits to be beaten and raped to death. Brought back from the dead by the Swamp Witch, she's determined to rebuild her fallen nation and her harem, in roughly that order.

    Lack of undergarments has to be revealed 9/ 57 

    Kept from the audience 3/ 57 

    Implied 2/ 57 
  • (Anime.Neon Genesis Evangelion) Vapor Wear: Seeing how Rei strips off all of her undergarments before putting on her plugsuit, it seems to imply that none of the pilots wear underwear while wearing their plugsuits in order to boost their synchronization rating. Asuka probably gets to have her panties on in her period, though.
  • (Characters.American Hustle) Vapor Wear: There's a constant implication that Sydney doesn't wear anything under her dresses. Particularly in the stall sequence.

    Obviously not wearing underwear, no meaning given 19/ 57 

     Used in another example 12/ 57 

    Assumed (?) 1/ 57 

    ZCE 4/ 57 

    Aversion 2/ 57 

    Obviously not wearing underwear, seemingly for a reason 6/ 57 
  • (FinalGirl.Live Action Films Subversions Aversions And Parodies) Maxine in X doesn't just violate every moral rule of slasher movie survival, she does so professionally. She's a literal porn star who habitually uses cocaine and the most scantily-clad female character in the film, spending most of it (when she isn't outright fully nude) wearing overalls with nothing underneath that just barely cover her breasts. The ending also reveals the televangelist we see throughout the film railing against the sins of pornography is her father. She winds up the Sole Survivor who departs the film with a triumphant snort of blow as she drives away, having no doubts or second thoughts about her line of work. Meanwhile, Lorraine, the virginal "church mouse" who does the audio on the porn film that the protagonists are making, is initially presented as Final Girl material, but later decides to star in the film herself (cheating on her boyfriend in the process, while he's filming it) — and sure enough, she's the last of them to die.
  • (PlayingWith.Fidelity Test) Parodied:
    • Alice goes to the bar wearing Vapor Wear as part of her disguise and does everything she can think of to seduce Bob.
  • (PlayingWith.Lingerie Scene Inverted: Vapor Wear - Alice is fully clothed but wears no underwear. Could think of nowhere else to put it
  • (Series.Porridge Vapor Wear: Played for Laughs in "Heartbreak Hotel". When Fletcher's daughter, Ingrid, pays him a visit (in the open-plan visiting room), he is outraged that she's not wearing a bra and all the other prisoners can see it. Next time she visits, she puts a bra on, and just to make sure he knows it, she lifts up her t-shirt to demonstrate. To get a laugh from the audience is a reason, right?
  • (VideoGame.Metal Gear Solid 4 Guns Of The Patriots 1/2) Navel-Deep Neckline:
    • Naomi Hunter also has an unbuttoned blouse and is clearly not wearing a bra. Believe it or not, the lack of a bra turns out to be important, as when you're trying to track Naomi down when she's being carted off by a bunch of soldiers, you find a discarded bra left behind as one of the soldiers' many fake outs. She never bothers to reacquire one later. Stuck it here because it has a gameplay reason
  • (Webcomic.Nineteen Ninety Something) Vaporwear: Denise and Kendra, in true hippie fashion, never wear bras. Though Kendra might've gone back to wearing a bra as she has since decided to give up her hippie lifestyle.

    Discussed 1/ 57 
  • (Funny.Undead Unluck 1/2) The first conversation Nico and Ichico have in the 101st loop mirrors a similar conversation they had in their first meeting the previous loop...where Nico tells her that she should cover up her "unsightly mounds of flesh" and Ichico bluntly replies no. Fuuko panics thinking she's ruined things between the two and apologizes to Mico.

    Misused for Vaporware 1/ 57 
  • (LegFocus.Video Games) The novels indicate that this is what Jim Raynor was thinking about Sarah Kerrigan during the "I finished scouting the area and—you pig!" scene in StarCraft. The player can't actually tell, considering she's a low-detail sprite, but promo shots for the Vaporwear Third-Person Shooter StarCraft: Ghost indicate that Ghost uniforms are practically painted on. Fixed, BTW

    Very little or no clothing 5/ 57 

Edited by GastonRabbit on May 16th 2024 at 6:48:18 AM

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#2: Apr 21st 2024 at 12:01:36 AM

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#3: Apr 21st 2024 at 12:25:51 AM

[tup] to disambig, the tropes listed already have far more coherent descriptions + narrative meaning

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kundoo Since: Sep, 2010
#4: Apr 21st 2024 at 12:33:07 AM

[tup] Disambig. The description seems to be mostly "Going Commando as Fanservice", but Going Commando as it is doesn't exclude fanservice, so this trope is redundant.

BlackMage43 Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#5: Apr 21st 2024 at 1:12:04 AM

The concept of sexually loose characters obviously not wearing underwear does sound tropeworthy, but it seems the examples don't really reflect that. I feel that's at least worth yarding.

Otherwise the disambiguation suggestion is sound.

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#6: Apr 21st 2024 at 1:16:03 AM

I think Vapor Wear is specifically a clothing style (similar to Impossibly-Low Neckline), whlie Going Commando is a personal choice. Unsure if this is accurate.

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#7: Apr 21st 2024 at 5:55:24 AM

[up][up]I agree, and I'm in favor of disambiguating the current page because of that.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 21st 2024 at 7:56:00 AM

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#8: Apr 21st 2024 at 6:02:20 AM

[up][tup]

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GnomeTitan Oversized Garden Ornament Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#9: Apr 21st 2024 at 7:32:22 AM

[up][up][up]I think that hits the nail on the head. Vapor Wear is a clothing style where clothes are designed to reveal that the wearer is not wearing anything underneath. The titillation aspect is not necessarily that you see a lot of skin, but the lack of underwear.

I think that as such, it's tropable (as a fashion trope and/or a fanservice trope), but I agree that there are a ton of problems with how it's used on the wiki. Most of the legit examples could probably be covered by Stripperiffic, and a lot of the non-fanservice misuse can be covered by Going Commando.

Edited by GnomeTitan on Apr 21st 2024 at 4:34:06 PM

kundoo Since: Sep, 2010
#10: Apr 21st 2024 at 7:56:36 AM

[up] Clothes that are designed to reveal that the wearer is not wearing anything underneath are, for the most part, already covered by Sexy Backless Outfit, Impossibly-Low Neckline, Navel-Deep Neckline, Sideboob, Underboobs and Stripperiffic.

Also, I was sure there was a trope for slit dresses that are slit too high, but couldn't find it. Ah, probably not.

Edited by kundoo on Apr 21st 2024 at 7:57:33 AM

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kundoo Since: Sep, 2010
#12: Apr 21st 2024 at 8:00:50 AM

[up] Oh, thanks! For some reason the search didn't give me this result when I was looking for "slit dress"

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#13: Apr 21st 2024 at 8:06:06 AM

Most examples fitting Stripperiffic as well is a solid argument to disambiguate.

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#14: Apr 21st 2024 at 8:06:19 AM

[up]Isn't Stripperiffic a supertrope of Vapor Wear, and many other tropes listed above? Or, if it isn't listed as one, shouldn't it be? Examples of a subtrope fitting the supertrope isn't an argument for disambiguating the subtrope, is it?

[up][up][up][up]You're right, the tropes listed cover (pun intended) most of the cases. Cleavage Window may also apply, if the window is large enough.

The exception is when the clothes are modestly cut, but transparent. Sexy Soaked Shirt is the special case where the transparency is due to the clothing being wet. Do we have a more general trope for transparent clothes in general?

Edited by GnomeTitan on Apr 21st 2024 at 5:26:39 PM

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#15: Apr 21st 2024 at 8:17:30 AM

I'm not super-concerned about trope overlap, and as a concept, "outerwear that indicates the wearer is Going Commando" is a valid trope. However, in order to coexist with the various other "sexy clothing" tropes, each example would probably need individual confirmation that the wearer in fact isn't wearing underwear: for example, IRL they make strapless and even backless bras to wear with revealing women's tops.

As an example, back when I was writing fanfic on the Star Trek Online forum, there was a prompt about your character going clubbing, and one writer had their Trill in a club dress with completely sheer side panels (because the spots go all the way down), which she openly admitted to a friend made it impossible to wear panties.

Edited by StarSword on Apr 21st 2024 at 11:21:54 AM

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#16: Apr 21st 2024 at 8:24:54 AM

[up]From a fashion perspective, I'm not sure if there's much of a difference - surely it's the visual effect that's the important thing, and not whether, say, a woman is wearing a strapless, thin bra or no bra at all. But if you see it as a fanservice trope, the difference between invisible underwear and no underwear can be important, of course.

Edited by GnomeTitan on Apr 21st 2024 at 5:25:20 PM

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#17: Apr 21st 2024 at 8:39:24 AM

It also may share issues with Personal Appearance tropes, there's no contextualization for something self-evident.

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DoktorvonEurotrash Since: Jan, 2001
#18: Apr 21st 2024 at 9:41:10 AM

I'd be happy to see this cut. Never saw this as a trope, at least not as having a meaningful distinction from the other "skimpy outfit" fanservice tropes. The whole thing just seems to be an excuse for a punny trope name.

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Oversized Garden Ornament
#19: Apr 21st 2024 at 10:00:24 AM

[up]I'd say that there is a distinction, because of the somewhat neurotic attitude many societies (including the U.S.) have about underwear - not wearing underwear is seen as wrong and/or indecent, so clothes that show off the fact that the wearer isn't wearing underwear have an extra titillation factor over clothes that are merely revealing.

The question is of course whether this warrants a separate trope.

grandefarao from Brazil Since: Feb, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#20: Apr 21st 2024 at 10:49:59 AM

When I first saw these tropes, I thought there was redundancy between Going Commando and Vapor Wear and then I realized that Vapor Wear is used for fanservice. I agree with organizing better, but we should organize optional styles or fanservice.

Acebrock He/Him from So-Cal Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: My elf kissing days are over
grandefarao from Brazil Since: Feb, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#22: Apr 22nd 2024 at 9:59:22 AM

I know there's a lot of tropes that characterize Vapor Wear. In my opinion, I think we could turn this page into an Index instead of a disambiguation, showing Penelo's photo, the page explanation and the list of tropes, highlighting which part of the body the character is not wearing underwear.

MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#23: Apr 22nd 2024 at 7:37:01 PM

I don't think this has any strict subtropes, so it would be awfully specific for an index.

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DeadlyEspresso totally human from where? Since: Apr, 2023
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#25: Apr 23rd 2024 at 6:14:19 PM

[down] I suggest modifying the definition of the trope rather than disambiguating it. The trope should be focused on being a kind of Fanservice trope where the outfit's design gives away that the person is obviously not wearing undergarments (such as having slits in the pants that show that the person could not possibly be wearing underwear). Try to focus on moving examples where the lack of undergarments is NOT obvious (such as a skirt with no underpants underneath and also no slits in it to give away the lack of underwear) to Going Commando instead. Granted, this trope could be analyzed as a fusion of Going Commando and Stripperiffic, but there are enough "tropeworthy" tropes that can be analyzed as the result of fusing tropes together that there's a Just for Fun page about it (the page in question is https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/JustForFun/FusionDance )

Edited by DeadlyEspresso on Apr 23rd 2024 at 6:14:45 AM

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