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IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014
#8201: May 6th 2024 at 6:48:20 PM

[up]But having a serial killer as a random 4* you can innocently pull at any time and not realize that he's a murderer (with a questionable relationship to the age of maturity) until you're way into the story is objectively hilarious.

But yeah, they were cooking with Siobhan. I assumed that she was an Early-Bird Cameo of an eventual unit until I heard about the data differences.

Edited by IniuriaTalis on May 6th 2024 at 6:49:27 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#8202: May 6th 2024 at 6:50:34 PM

After playing other gachas, I remember being surprised that we didn't get, like, a token playable character from every villainous organization. I'm still a bit surprised we haven't gotten playable Abyss or Treasure Hunter characters, even as Token Good Teammates.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#8203: May 6th 2024 at 6:52:40 PM

Treasure Hunters are basically evil versions of the Adventurers' Guild. So I guess it'd be, like, Bennet or something.

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IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014
#8204: May 6th 2024 at 6:55:41 PM

I think that Enjou is pretty much a lock for whenever they want us to see a most sympathetic side of Abyss!sib. But yeah, the lack of a Treasure Hoarder character is weird, especially since that organization is way more sympathetic than literally any other enemy type in the game besides specifically Slimes, and even then it's debateable.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#8205: May 6th 2024 at 6:57:40 PM

Slimes are pure evil. Have you ever truly looked into those terrible eyes of theirs? Therin lies the actual abyss, unblinking and nefarious.

Edited by KnownUnknown on May 6th 2024 at 6:58:01 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
raziel365 Anka Aquila from South of the Far West (Veteran) Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
Anka Aquila
#8206: May 6th 2024 at 7:05:23 PM

I think the final issue with Signora is that, despite being a Sacrificial Lion as Iniuria Talis mentioned, her death just feels cheap for the role she was supposed to play: she's not sympathetic enough to make you care beyond the shock value of her death, which admittedly was part of the point; but, she's also not hateable enough to make it feel karmic when the Shogun turns her into ashes.

By hateable I mean that she didn't do enough in the plot to make you invested in seeing her go down. Yes, Signora trash talks Venti and kicks him after stealing his gnosis, but beyond that her worst actions on-screen are being smug or annoying unlike Azar who is a Hate Sink that piles crime after crime during the Sumeru story so by the end you really want to see him brought down by the heroes.

Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, we should find the absolutes that tie us.
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#8207: May 6th 2024 at 7:05:26 PM

[up]x5 That's Dainsleif and Rosaria respectively.

Dainsleif is on the tall male skeleton and Mihoyo themselves have said he will eventually be playable.

Edited by Memers on May 6th 2024 at 7:06:12 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#8208: May 6th 2024 at 7:42:29 PM

Dain's basically the Abyss Order's archnemesis at this point.

Likewise, Rosaria was a bandit in backstory iirc, but conceptually she's a representative of the Church of Favonius.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#8209: May 6th 2024 at 8:49:45 PM

If Dainsleif counts as Abyss, then so do Arlecchino and Kaeya, since they're both also from Khaenri'ah

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#8210: May 6th 2024 at 9:05:51 PM

Dainsleif actually uses the Abyss in his attacks.

Whenever we get that Abyss (totally not Quantum) element he will likely be the first to have it.

PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#8211: May 6th 2024 at 9:30:07 PM

[up][up]Don't forget Albedo!

Oissu!
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#8212: May 6th 2024 at 9:35:03 PM

New event takes place in Watatsumi Island. RIP to new players, I guess.

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Mami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#8213: May 7th 2024 at 12:14:18 AM

I don't know how anyone could argue that Arlecchino wasn't morally grey, especially after her story quest and voice lines. The only thing she cares about is the safety of her children, and she can be ruthless to anyone who challenges that, up to and including the Tsaritsa. She's a monster, just a very paternal one.

She's kind of morally gray but the way the game writes her also feels like it's constantly stepping back so that people don't get to uncomfortable with her. Her attacking Furina is treated like a footnote, the house of hearth's bad reputation prior to Fontaine is fixed by it actually being the fault of the former director, Childe and Scara's warnings about her feel disproportionate to how much of a problem she actually ended up being. Her voice lines honestly feel kind of overcompensating with all the edginess, it's like if Jeanne Alter was swagless.

(Sunday in Star Rail is the same... he is not on a player skeleton.)

I don't think I've seen anything regarding what skeleton Sunday uses in all the leaks about his weird status as a playable.

Edited by Mami on May 7th 2024 at 8:14:48 PM

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erazor0707 The Unknown Unknown from The Infinitude of Meh Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Unknown Unknown
#8214: May 7th 2024 at 9:18:07 AM

A little late to this topic, but to address this:

Given their other properties seem fine with playable villains I don't know why Hoyoverse declared that you must be light gray or pure-er to be a playable Genshin character, although the wild ride they take us on to twist and mold and scrub clean their more dubious characters is entertaining in it's own way.

I have to point out that, as someone who finished Part I of Honkai Impact 3rd (and dropped it afterward, so no Part II), they sanitized villains there too. So, I think it's just a Hoyoverse thing.

Edited by erazor0707 on May 7th 2024 at 11:18:23 AM

A cruel, sick joke is still a joke, and sometimes all you can do is laugh.
IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014
#8215: May 7th 2024 at 7:30:26 PM

Someone on the writing team must really hate Sara.

AmethystLeslie Schezo Wegey confirmed for King from IRL Unova Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: He makes me feel like I have a heart
Schezo Wegey confirmed for King
#8216: May 7th 2024 at 7:33:35 PM

Slimes are pure evil. Have you ever truly looked into those terrible eyes of theirs? Therin lies the actual abyss, unblinking and nefarious.

As a Neuvillette main, I concur about those Hydro Slimes. They're so evil, I can't hurt them.

Goddammit, Schezo... || *insert incredibly thirsty copypasta about Dr. Ratio*
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
Stage7-4 Since: Dec, 2014
#8218: May 8th 2024 at 4:01:44 PM

I'm starting to believe that Arlecchino must have been a coding nightmare given how many times she was fiddled with in the beta and the amount of bugs still remain.

For those not in the know, her burst doesn't have invincibility frames like other 5 star characters. She also can't collect blood debts from Stormterror, although that boss is notoriously buggy. And then there's the bugs that Hoyoverse acknowledged in the update notes...

She can't even escape the 4.7 beta, as they are changing her skill's particle generation cooldown from a half second to 1.5 seconds. In practice this does nothing, as her skill cooldown is longer than the particle cooldown, there is no sacrificial spear, and even going skill-burst-skill would be too long for the particle gen cooldown.

Edited by Stage7-4 on May 8th 2024 at 4:04:40 AM

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#8219: May 8th 2024 at 6:30:15 PM

[up] It’s for the new Abyss, one of the affixes resets cd on skills and such. I think a few other spear users were changed too.

Edited by Memers on May 8th 2024 at 6:30:58 AM

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#8220: May 9th 2024 at 1:34:53 AM

4*s in the Wanderer/Baizhu banner: Beidou, Faruzan, Layla

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AwkbutTVT Since: Nov, 2023
#8222: May 9th 2024 at 6:36:03 PM

They let Layla outta the cage

Ey, migi vuru?
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#8223: May 9th 2024 at 6:58:31 PM

I just checked and, outside of the standard banner SSR and starter SR, the character who's currently gone longest without a rerun is Shenhe (last banner ended April 11 2023) - after her it's Nilou, who had the banner immediately following hers.

The 4* who's gone longest without a rerun is Kaveh (last banner ended May 23 2023, which has been his only rateup so far). He's in joint 3rd longest overall, shared with Ganyu who was one of the 5* units on his banner.

Edited by asterism on May 9th 2024 at 3:00:00 PM

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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#8224: May 9th 2024 at 8:27:26 PM

Music event: Itto is a good singer. Paimon is... not.

ED: Also lmao at the Extremely Ominous Foreshadowing between Ei and Miko at the end

Edited by asterism on May 9th 2024 at 4:39:02 PM

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Mami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#8225: May 10th 2024 at 4:10:03 AM

As expected from CV: TM Revolution!

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